Audi R10 in GT5

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When it was announced that this car was in GT5 I couldn't believe it, I was very excited. Eventually the game came and I got all the money needed to finally buy the car of my dreams. It's challenging and awe-inspiring to drive, it looks beautiful and has more torque than god himself. I dreamed in racing the Indy 500 with it and earning honestly a Jaguar XJ13 while claiming a victory for Audi Sport Team Joest :drool:.

But now that I've been trying to use it for the Indy 500 I'm facing a problem. Apparently and according to PD the R10 TDI eats half a tank of fuel in 25 laps, and in the same period it absolutely munches a set of Hard slicks. Not only that, apparently it also needs an aftermarket turbocharger (Fitting aftermarket turbos to LM spec cars? Really?) to compete with it's predecesor, the R8 LMP, around a glorified oval. In the 2004 24 Heurs Du Mans, one of the R8s took the fastest lap of the day with 3'34.264, and in 2005 the fastest lap was done by a Pescarolo with a 3'34.968. The R10 in it's maiden race had a fastest lap of 3'31.211. Yet, it can barely keep up against the competition in GT5.

*The R10 is outclassed by a competition that shouldn't realistically beat it.
*The R10 suffers from an horrendous economy when running at a pace enought to outrun the AI,
when running in economy mode it is an easy prey for an AI that magically gets to X2010-ish pace.
*The AI can run at a blistering pace, while at the same time being economic on fuel and tires.
*As I've heard from people on this forums, Soft slicks last almost as much Hard ones?

I had to modify my R10, stretching a bit the gearbox and adding a turbo, so I can...still lose to inferior cars because the car is a gas guzzler and a tire muncher? And if I drive economically the car can't keep up? And an AI that doesn't drive economically doesn't need to pit anytime? Get serious PD, you know there are mistakes in this game.

As I say...GT5 is a hero in epic in some aspects, and lame on others. Makes it a bit average in my view...

Anyway, rant over. Anyone knows if it is possible to beat the magically flying AI with the R10? Or I should stop dreaming of a glorious and close race and just bash everything with a Group C or a X2010?
 
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R10 also has 5 speed gearbox as opposed to 6 in game...

Although to be fair to the R8, the "fastest" iteration of the car is the 2002 version before they start adding restrictor and weight to it. By 2005 it was a much slower car. 2002 was also the last true "Factory" R8. 2002 car qualified on a 3:29.9, raced a 3:33.5
 
RacingManiac
R10 also has 5 speed gearbox as opposed to 6 in game...

Although to be fair to the R8, the "fastest" iteration of the car is the 2002 version before they start adding restrictor and weight to it. By 2005 it was a much slower car. 2002 was also the last true "Factory" R8. 2002 car qualified on a 3:29.9, raced a 3:33.5
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Still a good 2 seconds slower than the "slowest" iteration of the R10. Both in race conditions. Yet in GT5's Indy 500 the AI R10 is the slowest of the pack, and my R10 has trouble with keeping competition behind me on stock conditions (I block them on the straights until, eventually, they punt me and make me spin at 320 KM/H in a banked corner :ouch:).

I usually run around 41.9xx and 43.1xx laps, is this good enough to beat the event? (Although at this pace I need to pit every 25 laps or my right rear tire will explode).
 
I was super happy to finally buy the R10 and was extremely disappointed when I finally drove it. I don't feel it's right in the game either.
 
sw_sephiroth
I was super happy to finally buy the R10 and was extremely disappointed when I finally drove it. I don't feel it's right in the game either.
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I was actually thrilled when I finally drove it. It's hard for a not so experimented driver. However I'm getting the hang of it (I can do complete laps of La Sarthe without much problem, but they aren't very fast) and it has taught me a couple of really useful things to know when driving a monster car.
 
sw_sephiroth
I was super happy to finally buy the R10 and was extremely disappointed when I finally drove it. I don't feel it's right in the game either.
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same over here. The car of my GT5 dreams is/was the Audi R10 TDI.

I saved up every little penny to get that 4.75mil credit vehicle, only to find out that it isnt that great...

PD please!!!

Chris
 
I was lucky to have mine from the start as it was a Stealth Car when I bought the game. Its a very good car and helped me in most of my races.
 
How about how PD designs a game where a car with 71 miles on it needs an engine overhaul at 350K and a chassis repair at 500K? How can they do that and sleep at night? I have gotten used cars with less miles that was same deal but can't remember how many miles exactly.
 
street
How about how PD designs a game where a car with 71 miles on it needs an engine overhaul at 350K and a chassis repair at 500K? How can they do that and sleep at night? I have gotten used cars with less miles that was same deal but can't remember how many miles exactly.
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That's nothing. When I first drove my Mclaren F1 and Corvette ZR1 (both brand new), I put no dings on them at all (took it easy), staying on the track the whole time. After the first race, they both needed a full chassis repair. It seems once you use the car at all, it needs repairs equivalent to half of their showroom values. Except for special edition cars like the Stealth and Chrome Lines, since they don't really have showroom values, they're cheap to repair and 1k for BOTH the engine overhaul and chassis repair


Back on topic: I say just ditch the R10 for that race and go with what you can easily win with. If that keeps happening, even after tuning, it's clear you should move on from that car at least for that race. You can always try again later once you've beaten it
 
They don't NEED repair, it's an option. All my cars drive the same with numerous miles on them, even getting hit by the AI. You're wasting your money with the chassis refresh unless your car seriously can't drive the way it used to.
 
I always wondered what it really did with improving the speed or handling with the repairs.
Sounds like I need to trade to get a few stealth cars! Anyone want to trade a stealth or two?
 
This car is not an R10 TDI. I enjoy having it, but I doubt I'll be racing it.

Its like if Lada built a car that looked like the R10 TDI.

Six gears, bad mileage (for a diesel!?) gimped speed and ridiculous handling quirks (I'm starting to think my bugatti can turn better..)

I was most unimpressed.

But damn its a pretty car.
 
Maybe it's a matter of expectations and also how tires work in the game. Some of your gripes may have explanation in my findings with the rather similar 908.
Also, keep in mind that FIA forced reduction of diesel tanks capacity in an effort to balance petrol/diesel. I think IRL, they really last about the same now.

Maybe you should check this thread:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160004
 
I don't doubt your findings and observations, but I think an R10 with soft tyres should be able to win the Indy 500. Will see tonight.

For these LeMans cars to shine on ovals, the magic is in the downforce. Not too much on the rear because it will limit your top speed, not too little on the front because then you'll have to get off the gas too much to corner properly. I expect you can get lap times in the low 41s with the stock R10, which is more than enough to win the Indy 500.

Will report back after some experimentation...
 
I got one with the game (stealth) and can honestly say I don't find it too bad. I took me a few good races to get fast lap times with it. It isn't every thing you'd expect for a car of it's status but I happen to find it an enjoyable, fast car.
 
shem
I got one with the game (stealth) and can honestly say I don't find it too bad. I took me a few good races to get fast lap times with it. It isn't every thing you'd expect for a car of it's status but I happen to find it an enjoyable, fast car.
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I'm sure the Stealth models are not the same as the regular models (some have more HP/Less weight).

The R10 is hilariously bad compared to other LMP's in the game, it's really disappointing since I was looking forward to using this car. Its stock suspension settings are horrible and cause massive understeer (-10 rear height, you cannot raise it, the front will only drop by -15), has less BHP than most LMPs even with the turbo kit equipped and its struggles to break 230 mph, oh, and if you set the gears too far apart to make up for this it accelerates far too slow.
 
Also I've noticed the car sounds very similar to the R8s and the 908s.

You've made a child cry PD! :lol:.
 
uncle_hayley_j
Why does it spit flames out? It's a deisel, if I had a deisel that did this, I'd be rather worried to say the least...
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Lol yes. Was going to say I dont think my diesel should be doing this:
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uncle_hayley_j
You may want to go back to the dealership with that one :P.
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I'd go back to the dealership with my Audi, but I just love it so much! I even got it as a Die-Cast, and it's the most expensive and special one I have in my collection, got it from Audi's Museum Mobile in Ingolstadt :D.

What I have to do is go back to PD 💡.
 
It does feel slow, but honestly, I have it as a Stealth Pack car, I do like it quite a good deal, it's not the best, but by no means the worst.
 
I did some tests last night.

Stock R10 + soft tyres on Indy runs consistent 42 seconds laps with a top speed of around 360KMh. Tuning the suspension/downforce further may get it just below 42 in the high 41s I think but cornering it may become less comfortable and predictable (which is what you want in the Indy 500, since you have to do 800 corners... :) ).

That's not lightning fast, but it's not really slow either. It's comparable to stock 787b or the various Pescarolos I have. Once you start adding aftermarket turbos things may be different (I don't know... I've kept my R10 stock).
 
CarBastard
I was actually thrilled when I finally drove it. It's hard for a not so experimented driver. However I'm getting the hang of it (I can do complete laps of La Sarthe without much problem, but they aren't very fast) and it has taught me a couple of really useful things to know when driving a monster car.
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Whats your fastest lap around Le Mans ( La Sarthe )

mine was 3:29.7 on my second lap ever in it:)

EDIT: 3:26.8
 
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this is my setup for the Audi R10 I run a consistant 26 laps on tires and always am a lap ahead of the field by the second pit stop and finish the Indy 500 endro race at least 3-4 laps ahead of the field

use the perfered line high entrys down to the strips then back to the wall in the middle of the short shoots and on the front and back streches



front rear
Ride height 5 -10

spring rate 13.8 14.8

Dampers Ext. 8 8
Dampers Comp. 8 8

Roll Bar 6 6

Camber 0.0 -1.8

Toe 0.00 -35

LDS
IT 10
AS 20
Brakes 10

down force 55 80

Brake 5 5

Ballast 0
position 0

Transmission
1st 2.830
2nd 1.740
3rd 1.795
4th 0.855
5th 0.678
final 3.462
that should give a top speed of 390

try it out

B_E_I-Racing
 
I read the OP and thought set up! As buddy51 states it can be set up to be fast and not chew tyres.
 
street
How about how PD designs a game where a car with 71 miles on it needs an engine overhaul at 350K and a chassis repair at 500K? How can they do that and sleep at night? I have gotten used cars with less miles that was same deal but can't remember how many miles exactly.
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Unless the car isn't driving properly why repair it? It looks like once a car has a very few miles on it you can repair it, but so far I haven't bothered except for a very high mileage E Type Coupe which has all over the road before I rebuilt it and handles predictably, if not marvellously. Perhaps I'll have a tinker with the suspension settings!

A few of my older UCD cars have had their engines rebuilt once the report said I could gain a chunk of power.

Both the engine rebuild and chassis resetting seem to be allowed very early in a car's life, after as little as a few tens of miles, but only needs doing when things get bad.
 

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