Audi R18

[dxm8975]

R10 has a V12 diesel with twin turbo chargers. R10 was never really fast on smaller tracks even in real life, was designed for large open tracks like La Sarthe or some of the other large European tracks.

R18 has a small light weight V6. Smaller car overall made for lightness and nimble around any track.

Very different cars like comparing American muscle cars to light weight Lotus.

And as it's not supposed to be made for small races for the weight of a diesel engine mounted in the car and its durableness, the engine doesn't deserve for being used only in small competitions for a short time because of persistent endurance and disadvantages when it comes to nimbleness required on one track.

 

[Lloyd87]

And as it's not supposed to be made for small races for the weight of a diesel engine mounted in the car and its durableness, the engine doesn't deserve for being used only in small competitions for a short time because of persistent endurance and disadvantages when it comes to nimbleness required on one track.

?!? Sorry but you're inventing, Audi R10 and its TDI engine ran for three seasons in the American Le Mans Series, the 24 hours of le mans is not the only race where it ran.

 

[gtpsuper24]

The R10 was competetive not only on long tracks such as La Sarthe.
The car made its debut at the 12 hours of Sebring in 2006, a track with lots of corners and few short straights.
I know that comparing pole position lap times is not the best way to estabilish which car is faster at all, but surely it works better than doing the same by comparing figures written on a paper like "horsepower", "torque" and so on.
So here's a list of poles and fastest lap times set on Sebring (12 hours event), during qualifying sessions, since 1999. Note The track hasn't changed since then.

1999
-Pole Positions
Overall: BMW V12 LMR, 1:49.850, 195.143 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 2:02.909, 174.405 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Riley & Scott Mk III Judd, 1:51.608, 192.069 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 2:05.527, 170.771 km/h
WINNER: BMW V12 LMR

2000
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R8, 1:48.825, 196.980 km/h
LM GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 1:59.646, 179.165 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R8, 1:50.286, 194.370 km/h
LM GTS: Dodge Viper GTS-R, 2:01.369, 176.621 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2001
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R8, 1:49.110, 196.467 km/h
GTS: Saleen S7-R, 2:00.426, 178.005 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R8, 1:49.666, 195.471 km/h
GTS: Saleen S7-R, 2:01.043, 177.099 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2002
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R8, 1:48.029, 198.432 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 1:59.699, 179.086 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R8, Tom Kristensen, 1:48.418, 197.721 km/h
GTS: Ferrari 550 Maranello, 1:58.607, 180.736 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2003
-Pole Positions
Overall: Bentley Speed 8, 1:48.108, 198.287, then assigned to Audi R8, 1:48.826, 196.979 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 1:59.024, 180.102 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Bentley Speed 8, 1:49.521, 195.730 km/h
GTS: Ferrari 550 Maranello, 1:59.591, 179.600 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2004
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R8, 1:48.710, 197.190 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 1:57.052, 183.137 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R8, 1:49.443, 195.868 km/h
GTS: Chevrolet Corvette C5-R, 1:57.167, 182.957 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2005
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R8, 1:49.723, 195.370 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6-R, 1:57.347, 182.677 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R8, 1:48.580, 197.426 km/h
LM GT1: Aston Martin DBR9, 1:56.599, 183.848 km/h
WINNER: Audi R8

2006
-Pole Positions:
Overall: Audi R10 TDI, 1:45.828, 202.560 km/h
LM GT1: Aston Martin DBR9, 1:55.286, 185.942 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R10 TDI, 1:48.373, 197.803 km/h
LM GT1: Aston Martin DBR9, 1:56.573, 183.889 km/h
WINNER: Audi R10 TDI

2007
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R10 TDI, 1:44.974, 204.208 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:57.061, 183.122 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Audi R10 TDI, 1:46.634, 201.028 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:57.012, 183.198 km/h
WINNER: Audi R10 TDI

2008
-Pole Positions
Overall: Audi R10 TDI, 1:43.195, 207.728 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:56.269, 184.370 km/h
Fastest Laps
-Overall: Peugeot 908 HDi-FAP, 1:44.536, 205.063 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:57.087, 183.082 km/h
WINNER: Porsche RS Spyder

2009
-Pole Positions
Overall: Acura ARX-02a, 1:45.278, 203.617 km/h (Audi set 2nd fastest time with its new Audi R15 in 1:45.360 at 203.460 km/h)
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:57.882, 181.846 km/h
-Fastest Laps
Overall: Peugeot 908 HDi FAP, 1:43.274, 207.568 km/h
LM GT1: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, 1:56.905, 183.367 km/h
WINNER: Audi R15 TDI

2010
Audi does not take part to the race; end of GT1 class.
-Pole Position
Overall: Peugeot 908 HDI FAP, 1:45.214, 203.741 km/h
-Fastest Lap
Overall: Peugeot 908 HDI FAP, 1:44.972, 204.211 km/h
WINNER: Peugeot 908 HDI FAP

2011
-Pole Position
Overall: Peugeot 908, 1:46.571, 201.147 km/h (2nd time: Audi R15 TDI, 1:47.680, 199.076 km/h)
-Fastest Lap
Overall: Peugeot 908, 1:48.141, 198.228 km/h
WINNER: Peugeot 908 HDi-FAP

Audi R8's best lap time on Sebring: 1:48.029, 198.432 km/h (2002)
Audi R10's best lap time on Sebring: 1:43.195, 207.728 km/h (2008)
that makes almost 5 seconds of difference.
I know rules change, but cars improve too.
Please don't ask me to do the same job for other tracks also cause i've spent almost one hours to write this list!

Sebring is a fairly large track. The R10 really had a hard time at Mid Ohio sized tracks. The Porshe RS Spyder and Acura ARXs which was a lower class cars, usually out paced the R10. And PD needs to fix the exhaust sound on the R10, sounds nothing like that in real life, actually when we was at Mid Ohio it was almost silent, except for a whirling wind like sound.

 

[Lloyd87]

I wasn't comparing the R10 to the RS Spyder, but to the R8, to show that in GT5 its performances don't match to reality.
The RS Spyder was a beast, but also lighter than the audi being it a LMP2, this gave it advantages on tracks such as Mid Ohio.

 

[SirBerra]

I'd like to see the return of the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. I don't remember precisely, but I think I used it in Gran Turismo 3. I thought that car was so sweet to drive and sounded awesome. The Ford Mark 4 is nice and I enjoy using it, but it's like a truck. The SCDC was much more agile and sporty.

 

[Jarnac]

I'd like to see the return of the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. I don't remember precisely, but I think I used it in Gran Turismo 3. I thought that car was so sweet to drive and sounded awesome. The Ford Mark 4 is nice and I enjoy using it, but it's like a truck. The SCDC was much more agile and sporty.

Off topic, but.. good car.

 

[symustafa1996]

This is new to me, are you sure of that ?

This is true, they share some technologies. Just to let you know, the R8C is closed-cockpit, while the R8R, which ran alongside it, was open-cockpit. They look similar, but are very different. The R8R was built by Dallara, while the R8C is built in Britain by a company in Norfolk. The only similarities is the engines, 600bhp V8s.

 

[huskeR32]

I'd like to see the return of the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. I don't remember precisely, but I think I used it in Gran Turismo 3 2. I thought that car was so sweet to drive and sounded awesome. The Ford Mark 4 is nice and I enjoy using it, but it's like a truck. The SCDC was much more agile and sporty.

Fixed. 👍

 

[mrluckypants]

I have a question, why is the R10 so much slower than the car it replaced?

It was more reliable and had better fuel economy than the R8

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

oh while your at it tell them that i want a Ferrari 512 ..

 

[browneyedman]

Every wishlist thread is half full of sarcastic comments like this, so...

Yay. Another wisea** comment.

It blows my mind how simple it is for people to just ignore threads they don't like, yet how few people seem able to do that...

I like when some asks the question "Is the Red Bull X2010 really hard to drive?"
And some replies "I don't have the car but maybe it is" Is this something like that? hehe

 

[Stavelot]

Although it wasn't badged an Audi, the R8C was developed into the Bentley Speed 8

It wasn't....the engine and class (LM-GTP) are the only 2 things shared...designer Peter Elleray designed both and used the aero principles learned on the R8C for the Bentley. The R8C was badged an Audi because it was an Audi (built by Audi UK contractor Racing Technologies Norfolk), its only flaw was a lack of testing....

 

[Cowboys965]

The Audi R18 can actually compete against the 908 whereas the R10 can't....

But then we would would need the 11/12 Peugeot too? I'll take em'. Lol.

Maybe LMP2 DLC?

 

[Stavelot]

LMP2? Wrong class? I'd actually love to get a Lola LMP chassis (B12/60) and have engine options available to power it, that'd make GT5 amazing.