Aussie Rides? Eh? (Previously 'GT4 is dying off')

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It's with rather deep regret that I say this: Gran Turismo 4 is slowly dying; When I first joined here, the GT board never went 10 minutes without at least a new post, but lately people seem to have seriously lost interest in the game overall as well as the forum.

Soon, all our tuning garages, all that we've done with GT4... Will be gone. The mainstream public will move on, and all that has been done with GT4 will be forgotten by most. Not everyone can afford a PS3 as yet; not everyone will leave. But if just the release of GT5: Prologue causes a drop in interest this severe... I hate to think what the release of GT5 will do.

Now then... What shall we do when the customers are gone for our garages? What will happen to the race series'?

And how can we prevent it?

~Kyle

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C S Lewis
“We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.”
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”
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Just a couple of thoughts
 
Short of some sort of massive Madison Avenue-level PR blitz or going to the GT5 boards and grovelling for people to return ... I doubt it can be prevented in whole. I think that what we CAN do is continue the interaction we get with those still interested as vigorously as possible - a busy message board attracts people far more than one that hasn't seen a post in five or six days. Events like the recent tuner challenge and the classics challenge yet to come are still a good way to keep people's interest, and I doubt the WRS will be going anywhere anytime soon. Hell, someone said that they're still running a GT1 race series.

All things do pass, but I don't think GT4 is gone forever, by any means.
 
Instant-on life. Whaddya know.

Oh! Something better! I must have it!

:rolleyes:

Yeah, right. Not for me.

I know there may be a bit of a rebound back to GT4, as surely people will get bored with Prologue before GT5 comes out... Then there will be the people who don't have the cash for a PS3 who will still be here.

But yes, GT4 is definitely dropping in interest, and there truly isn't much to save it.

Ah well, all good things must come to a close... But... So soon, GT4?

~Kyle

PS: Hope I don't sound like a blabbering idiot, probably do. Ah hell with it. I am.
 
I remember when the GT3 forum was bustling but...

So soon? GT4 is like 3 years old now, it is expected, its great the series is strong enough to hold popularity for one game (GT4) this long, now GT5 is on the horizon expect GT4 to slow even more.

GT5 forum is really starting to pick up now with the release of Gt5 Prologue.
 
GT4 has been out for nearly 4 years, people aren't going to be playing it forever. The WRS will survive, and it will change to GT5 eventually to keep up with times, the same can be said for the tuner garages. all the garages will move to GT5 so what you can't afford a PS3 now, well if GT5 lasts as long as GT4 then you still have four years to get a PS3 and another year or so on top of that beacause it isn't being released soon. 5 years to get a PS3 they will be even cheaper then.

On the subject of the tuner garages being lost; if GTP survives then your tuner garages survive, but what will really make the difference is if you continue the tuner garages in GT5 pass on your knowledge, that is what will really matter, then you can commite the old tuner garages to memory and remember how much you enjoyed it. Only then can you move on and stop living in the past.

On a side note, GTP certainly isn't dying, the GT4 forum perhaps, but take a look at the GT5 forum wait until prologue is released worldwide in a few months time. Then imagine where GTP will be when GT5 is released. The amount of new members here recently is stagering.
 
I still play GT4 at least 3 times per week... and that's on slow weeks. Still, the GT4 buzz was certain to die off, especially once the GT5 buzz started. It's been like that with all the previous versions.
 
It's been 4 years for GT4, most games don't get played that long anyway. And there will always be those of us who play slower or start playing then switch to another game and come back. That's what I did, and my interest is back.
 
It may be a bit quiet, but is it really all due to GT5P? Some totally unrelated things have kept me away from GTP this past 36 hours - It's new year and I've been spending time with friends away from the computer (and nursing the ensuing hangover), and at the same time my ISP had an unexpected outage just when there was nobody at work to sort it.
 
Well you can't expect much can you Rotary Junkie? Just face it, everyone needs to move on in their lives. I mean sure, I also don't have a PS3 and play GT5P yet, but you don't see me complaining do you? NO!!!!! I don't really care if the GT4 forum is dead, just see the TT forum and think for yourself how dead that forum is.... at least the GT4 thread gets more views per day than any other GT thread on GTP (except GT5, but that is obvious isn't it?)

Like I said, everyone needs to move on, and so do you. I mean lets take this for example. Would you like to stay a kid forever and never leave your neighborhood or would you like to be an adult, take your own responsibility and explore the unknown? Surely you will play GT5 sooner or later, and you will leave the GT4 forum like everyone said. I rest my case.
 
im not surprised as the game is 3 years old..

If you wanted gt4 to be remembered, there shouldn't be the next installment after GT5.

This way, we become nastalgic about it.
When we all eventually try out GT5, everyone will want to play that instead of GT4. Why? Isn't it obvious?

I had experiences like this before.. several games I once had, and no sequel came out, so that game's success didn't drop, it stopped.. It's still a good game but I don't have the game anymore.

Luckily I found all 3 of those games back "last year", and played them all again which makes me a happy person.
 
We will all move onto GT5 at some point in the next few years, wether its soon or wether we wait until the prices drop, i post alot, and it shows,im averaging something like 13 posts a day, but i dont complain, of course if everyone was like me, as in, jobless and bored. Then we would all be posting loads a day, but we all have lives outside of gran turismo. Were just moving with the times, wether we like it or not the GT4 forum will decrease in popularity, unless you want to organize a march...in which case COUNT ME IN!
 
Rotary Junkie
It's with rather deep regret that I say this: Gran Turismo 4 is slowly dying; When I first joined here, the GT board never went 10 minutes without at least a new post, but lately people seem to have seriously lost interest in the game overall as well as the forum.
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Much agreed. Perhaps the few new members that prolonged the activity of the GT4 thread, whether it was posting items that should have gone in the Rumble Strip (Introductory threads included) or even asking simple questions, may have either turned off the regulars or, when they left, nobody saw any more action in the forum, and then left on their own. There were a lot of locked threads in the regular GT4 Forum.

Not that ALL new members are like that, though. In fact, we have quite a lot of good newcomers on this site.

I doubt that it is due to GT5, however much the GT5P forum is active and the GT4 forum is in this sorry state. The real-world news and crises (Kenya, Benazir Bhutto[?], etc.) seem to draw people to the Current Events forum and the Rumble Strip.

All the same, though, while this forum may be inactive, the efforts all of you have made will certainly be remembered. There are simply too many people that cannot buy a PS3 or do not want one for the GT4 area to die permanently at this stage.

Edit: I also personally seem to be a thread-killer... At this moment, GT Planet itself has nearly stopped, the closest we will ever get.

"Why of course! Other gaming platforms!"

CirclesCenter just summarized what i was saying in 3/4 of the words I used...
 
It's not dying. It's simply losing interest now that the next generation is coming out down the line. Hell, one could say GT1 has died since you rarely hear about anyone playing it, but trust me, somewhere on this forum, people are playing it.
 
Rotary Junkie
It's with rather deep regret that I say this: Gran Turismo 4 is slowly dying; When I first joined here, the GT board never went 10 minutes without at least a new post, but lately people seem to have seriously lost interest in the game overall as well as the forum.

Soon, all our tuning garages, all that we've done with GT4... Will be gone. The mainstream public will move on, and all that has been done with GT4 will be forgotten by most. Not everyone can afford a PS3 as yet; not everyone will leave. But if just the release of GT5: Prologue causes a drop in interest this severe... I hate to think what the release of GT5 will do.

Now then... What shall we do when the customers are gone for our garages? What will happen to the race series'?

And how can we prevent it?

~Kyle
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Let me help you on this one.

This is what happened to GT4 on the realease of GT5 Prolouge!


Here is what will happen to GT4 on the realease of GT5!

Big huh!
 
Psst, RJ... having this thread as the most-recently-posted-in on the main menu every thirty minutes or so may not be helping. Maybe see about getting it locked? :sly:
 
I know, the IRONY.

I say that the game is dying, and people come out of the woodwork.

To agree with me. The game is old, probably tired-out for most people who've beaten it 50+ times. And yet... I can just tell that it's a case of people INSTANTLY changing channels. "Oh, wow! New game on a new system! Better! I want it!"

I think I'll let it ride.
 
I think part of the forum activity dying down might be the anti-newb sentiment. I know when I first came on to this forum I didn't want to ask any questions, because it seemed like a half answer would be suggested and the thread locked or the "search noob" comment would be posted, again followed closely by a thread lock. My two cents.

Regardless, GT5 will/is taking a huge bite out of GT4, but of course what happened to GT3 when 4 came out? We're after realism aren't we?

I know I'll be playing GT5 mighty soon.
 
I said something like this at MFT yesterday, that we (GT4) are dying. There' nothing we can do about it. I have a PS3, not Prologue (and I'm not sure I want a "demo") and I will ride GT4 to the end, but for survival, I intend to get Aussie Tuners to open a new shop in GT5, possibly keep the old one though I doubt much will happen there. It's survival now, that's the game we're playing. You must save up for a PS3, do everything you can. Would you really want to miss out on GT5? Then it's a question of what is letting down the GT series more, keeping with old games or paying for new ones.
 
Rotary Junkie
It's with rather deep regret that I say this: Gran Turismo 4 is slowly dying; When I first joined here, the GT board never went 10 minutes without at least a new post, but lately people seem to have seriously lost interest in the game overall as well as the forum.

Soon, all our tuning garages, all that we've done with GT4... Will be gone. The mainstream public will move on, and all that has been done with GT4 will be forgotten by most. Not everyone can afford a PS3 as yet; not everyone will leave. But if just the release of GT5: Prologue causes a drop in interest this severe... I hate to think what the release of GT5 will do.

Now then... What shall we do when the customers are gone for our garages? What will happen to the race series'?

And how can we prevent it?

~Kyle
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I don't think it's gonna truely die off till GT5 comes out. That being said, i also must say the gT4 forums will never fully die. Lots of folks (myself included) won't be getting a PS3 for a good while. Like..i'm waiting till i get rich! :lol:

Also, there's still folks posting in the lower GT forums to this day (quite vigorously at times). GTP is still the best place to go if you're playing GT2 for instance, and want to discuss the game online. Many sites have boards you can go to but they're completely dead. Some GT sites don't even have a board for GT1, 2, or 3 anymore! That's how i found GTplanet in the first place 3 years ago--going from site to site and seeing how active the forums were. GTP is tops.

That being said, i dont think there's anything you can do to stop the GT4 forum from slowing down. That's inevitable.

But let's think of this. (Actually, CircleCenter already thought of it before i did) :indiff::

lots of newbs visit GT4 (and other areas of GTPlanet)...think of how many times they've come here to ask a question and we've brushed them off. Or flamed them. Or otherwise weren't so helpful. I've certainly done it. And then, that new person never comes back. All i'm saying is that if we want our forums to stay alive, sometimes it pays to accept those who we'd normally not accept.
 
But there are things in sticky threads they should read, they always go ahead and start an entirly new thread without searching to find that their topic has already been heavily discussed before in an already existing thread. Therefore they light the fire that burns them. There's nothing to stop them from posting in that existing thread.
 
Yeah, that's true. It can get annoying telling new people the same things over and over; i'm just suggesting that as this forum slows, it won't be necessary to do so in a manner that turns potential folks off.

In other words, back when hundreds of new people were showing up here, you could be abrasive because no matter what happens, there will always be those who "get it" and stick around...maybe 1 out of 10 new people actually can take what's being dished out (like yourself and myself...cuz i certainly got flamed here when i was new)...the other 9? who cares! But now that things are slowing down, it isn't as necessary to be abrupt.

I know in the lesser forums (GT1, 2, and 3) i certainly have become much more easy-going...welcoming people when all i wanna do is laugh cause they can't spell the word "Acura" right or something. And right now there's a pretty good crop of newer people who continuously hang out there.

...by the way...not sure why this is in the "tuning" section. I guess because Rotary Junkie wanted to make sure the tune shops stay flowing?
 
I have to agree with PB here - and this seems to be endemic to message boards across the internet. Sure, someone could search and find the answer to their question most likely, but it's incalculable how many people who'd have turned out to be productive GTP members we've run off with a really rough reception. I know this is baffling to contemplate - but a lot of these people have not used message boards before. There's a LOT of information to peruse through when you first visit a community as thriving as this, and the typical view of the internet is as a quick resource. If you don't have the free time to lurk for weeks before posting to make sure you've checked all the old threads and searched to exhaustion, it really doesn't seem like an unforgivable sin to go ahead and ask the question. And while to some it may be fun and somehow self-empowering to some to flame the life out a neophyte, at this point particularly, a little civility will go a long way.
 
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...by the way...not sure why this is in the "tuning" section. I guess because Rotary Junkie wanted to make sure the tune shops stay flowing?
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I dropped it here as it mostly pertains to the tuning garages. Because when people leave, the garages are worthless.

And agreed on the anti-n00b-bashing idea; I know I've been guilty of it...

Scared a good few people off.
 
That's because you actually seemed to give a crap, man.

If I see ppl typn leik dis, I get a little "Get the hell out"-ish.

There are no stupid questions; just stupid answers.
 
Well i'm glad you see what i was saying. I'm glad i see what you guys are saying, too!

I think the tuning shops will live on here. I really do. They won't be as busy, of course, but the best ones (or the most ambitious) will survive for a good while.
 
I never get bashed, i thought atleast someone would have called me a 'comment whore' or soemthing, on account of my rather large (understatement) posts per day count.

But i garuntee i will be here for a long time! Im not in any position to dump GT4 and go with GT5 instead. Unless someone gives it to me, but even then, i promise i'll stick around.
 

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