Auto VS Manual DS3 users.

[uMadson?]

How can shifting with the right stick be faster than by pressing a button?
I don't think that's an efficient setup.

Lol, it all depends on what we're comfortable with. Don't want to brag but I shift with the right stick and yet I make pretty decent lap times.

 

[Monosukoi]

I use manual and have my controller mapped so that R2 is accelerate, L2 is brake, Left stick is turning, X is handrake, R1 is upshift while L1is down shift. I dont know if i could get used to shifting with the right stick but im going to give it a go jut out of sheer curiosity.

I tried that setup as well, but I found that accelerating with R2 and upshifting with R1 was awkward for my fingers.

So I came up with the idea 💡 of switching the two shift buttons, and for me, it works perfectly.

So I have L2 as my brakes, L1 as the upshift, R2 as the accelerator, R1 as the down shift. This might sound odd but it feels completely natural to me.

It means I can control the braking with one hand and not have to worry about other button presses with that hand (outside of my thumb to control direction), then with my right hand I can use the downshift button without having to use the right hand for anything else.

It separates the two functions properly and gives me more thinking room.

At least, I hope so.

 

[TrackpadUser]

How can shifting with the right stick be faster than by pressing a button?
I don't think that's an efficient setup.

Its not faster, but its not slower either.

 

[shirakawaa]

Lol, it all depends on what we're comfortable with. Don't want to brag but I shift with the right stick and yet I make pretty decent lap times.

Wouldn't using the X and Square buttons be better and more comfortable?
Your thumb will be placed in virtually the same position and will have to travel less, with less margin of error, more comfort on the long run and quicker triggering times.
It's not that shifting in GT5 requires the added precision provided by the right stick. It doesn't make much sense to me to use it instead of buttons.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

I use manual because I like to be 100% responsible and accountable for anything I do in a race. I've got to have 100% control of my car so when I turn in a great lap time, I can say that I did it - not me and an automatic transmission. Shifting adds a whole other dynamic in the game and to me is essential every time I drive. Just having a manual transmission could increase your lap times!

Anyway, I use my trigger buttons to accelerate, brake, up shift, and down shift.

L1 - Downshift............... R1 - Upshift
L2 - Brake..................... R2 - Accelerate

I use the triggers to accelerate and brake because theres more range, more play, and better "pressure control" and is healthier for the controller because I don't end up with a mashed in x button after a good 6 months of solid GT5 gaming.

 

[trk29]

That's assuming using the D-pad to steer makes you slower which I won't subscribe to, not saying I'm faster, or even just as fast sometimes, using it but that has more to do with my talent in general (which means I'm not the fastest player around by some margin) than with my ability to steer using the directional buttons.
I have beaten people using a steering wheel online with me basically pressing buttons in quick succession but it's fair to mention I probably lost a lot more.
Although that also would've happened if I used the analog sticks to steer.
And you can be smooth using directional buttons, it's not simply pressing left to steer left and right to steer right but a more complicated sequence performed almost subconsciously, if I'd have to think about what buttons to press all the time I would be lost completely.

And for some reason getting more used to using the default setup that was in GT5P I can not drive with the psone setup.
I have no idea when I switched to steering with the left stick, I think it was with GT5P.

I use DS3 and I use only manual. My L2-R2 buttons are for shifting and my right analog stick is gas/brake.

I can't do throttle because I end up locking my brakes I guess my fingers get excited.

Manual is faster for me. Left analog: steer, Right analog: down for reverse, left/right look left right, R2 accelerate, L2 brake, L1 turn ghost on/off, X downshift, Triangle upshift, O park brake. Square access R/A menu, D-pad scroll up/down/left/ right in R/A menu. L3 wipers, R1 flash to pass, R3 hi/low beam.

R/A menu access is easy this way: shift up, 1,2,3, maybe 4, then as the car is accelerating on a straight, my thumbs are free to make on the fly adjustments.

This sounds like another good setup, I think I will set this up as the second setup. 👍

I cannot use manual with a controller at all. With a wheel, it feels natural. Don't even have to think about it.

What I wish PD would do is allow for a quasi automatic. If I want to up or downshift when I want to, then it should let me. The downshifting in automatic can be a bit 'off' at times.

I also prefer the right stick for throttle & brake. It's more precise than L2/R2, even with Real Triggers. Sticks have more throw.

This how I always played with a controller automatic, with my wheel I use manual. But yesterday I mapped manual to the right stick and have liked it.

I tried that setup as well, but I found that accelerating with R2 and upshifting with R1 was awkward for my fingers.

So I came up with the idea 💡 of switching the two shift buttons, and for me, it works perfectly.

So I have L2 as my brakes, L1 as the upshift, R2 as the accelerator, R1 as the down shift. This might sound odd but it feels completely natural to me.

It means I can control the braking with one hand and not have to worry about other button presses with that hand (outside of my thumb to control direction), then with my right hand I can use the downshift button without having to use the right hand for anything else.

It separates the two functions properly and gives me more thinking room.

At least, I hope so.

I use manual because I like to be 100% responsible and accountable for anything I do in a race. I've got to have 100% control of my car so when I turn in a great lap time, I can say that I did it - not me and an automatic transmission. Shifting adds a whole other dynamic in the game and to me is essential every time I drive. Just having a manual transmission could increase your lap times!

Anyway, I use my trigger buttons to accelerate, brake, up shift, and down shift.

L1 - Downshift............... R1 - Upshift
L2 - Brake..................... R2 - Accelerate

I use the triggers to accelerate and brake because theres more range, more play, and better "pressure control" and is healthier for the controller because I don't end up with a mashed in x button after a good 6 months of solid GT5 gaming.

Personally I can't hold a controller like this because the end of controller is not supported by your middle finger anymore, they rest on your ring finger and becomes more flimsy in my hands.

Unless your letting off the gas to shift?

 

[classic muscle]

Wouldn't using the X and Square buttons be better and more comfortable?
Your thumb will be placed in virtually the same position and will have to travel less, with less margin of error, more comfort on the long run and quicker triggering times.
It's not that shifting in GT5 requires the added precision provided by the right stick. It doesn't make much sense to me to use it instead of buttons.

I play hold ps3 controller how I hold my iPod so it's more comfortable and I just always has thumb on the right stick as my right thumb had nothing else to do cause handbrake and what not is the R and L buttons

 

[uMadson?]

Wouldn't using the X and Square buttons be better and more comfortable?
Your thumb will be placed in virtually the same position and will have to travel less, with less margin of error, more comfort on the long run and quicker triggering times.
It's not that shifting in GT5 requires the added precision provided by the right stick. It doesn't make much sense to me to use it instead of buttons.

I'm used to having L1 as look behind and R1 as the handbrake. That probably explains everything.

Still, I don't see major differences in both methods.

 

[seanchump]

Automatic on DS3.
Manual on the wheel.

 

[AnTiheLT]

I use automatic shifting with my DS3, reason is i dont really like to shift using the L2/R2, i dont have quite enough feeling with the shifting, so i always use Auto.

I have gold on all the license test, with using automatic only, so for me its not that important to go over to Manual, however if i had a wheel it will be a hole other story 👍

 

[shirakawaa]

I'm used to having L1 as look behind and R1 as the handbrake. That probably explains everything.

I do too.

Still, I don't see major differences in both methods.

No difference between a total thumb travel of around 3 cm (right stick up/down) to no travel at all (square and X buttons)?

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

What I wish PD would do is allow for a quasi automatic. If I want to up or downshift when I want to, then it should let me. The downshifting in automatic can be a bit 'off' at times.

Lol.. they do have that option, it's called the "Manual" setting.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

No difference between a total thumb travel of around 3 cm (right stick up/down) to no travel at all (square and X buttons)?

Actually not true. My finger stays readily on the right stick. And it works so much quicker with the flick of the stick. The X and Square buttons are a centimeter apart.

It just feels more like an idea of a sequential, then the of pushing buttons.

 

[shirakawaa]

I assumed that you would too press the square button with the top of your thumb and the X with its base. Almost zero movement needed.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

^This is true.
I had tried after I posted lol But resting your thumb on the stick is just as equal.

Whatever floats ur boat, tickles your pickle I suppose.

 

[marcus_war]

Lol.. they do have that option, it's called the "Manual" setting.

I think Dave was talking about a semi-auto. In another racing game that I've played, when using AT, you have the same functions as a full-automatic, but you can change gear at any time. In previous GT, you could delay the gear change when using an auto by pressing the gear change buttons until you saw fit for change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assumed that the AT in that other multi-console game whose subtitle has five letters, and released in 2009.

 

[WHO_DAT_62]

Depends on the day for me... If I do shift I use triangle (up) and x (down)

 

[Dominator]

Im a DS3 Controller user, and i play Manual all the way, no problem for me, its better actually.

 

[R3D D3V!L]

Manual. With L2 and R2 brake and accelerate respectively. Square = Downshift Circle = Upshift, X = Handbrake, steering = Left Analog stick, Camera Panning = Right stick.

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

I think Dave was talking about a semi-auto. In another racing game that I've played, when using AT, you have the same functions as a full-automatic, but you can change gear at any time. In previous GT, you could delay the gear change when using an auto by pressing the gear change buttons until you saw fit for change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assumed that the AT in that other multi-console game whose subtitle has five letters, and released in 2009.

Oh yeah.. I remember that from previous GT. Couldn't downshift though right? You could just hold/delay the upshifts?

 

[uMadson?]

I do too.


No difference between a total thumb travel of around 3 cm (right stick up/down) to no travel at all (square and X buttons)?

I mapped those buttons for the headlights and stuff.

 

[nismo33]

Not a fan of change then? I couldn't imagine still driving in games like that.

Tried changing a few times but im just totally comfy with it like that so its staying. Controller just sits perfect with thumb on x & changing gear with the triggers. Why change? If it aint broke why fix it?