Ban on car duplication?

  • Thread starter Thread starter wesyu
  • 235 comments
  • 17,437 views
Status
Not open for further replies.
W

wesyu

Messages
190
Messages
wesyu
would Sony can GT5 Duppers?

After 3.56 firmware update, Sony have banned many COD prestige hackers. Technically they are not hackers because they dont hack their ps3 or COD. They just find a shortcut to boost up their prestige level in Black Ops. Basically those guys are similar as duppers in GT5.

The decision of banning prestige hackers seems like Sony no longer tolerate people who exploit glitches. So is Sony going to ban dupers as well? :guilty:
 
Last edited:
No way, its a total different story.
If you dupe you dont gain anything over an opponent at online races.

Some people also may dupe cause they never got the car from the other user, or may indeed lost their save from a Hard Drive/ PS3 failure.
I dont see this happens.
 
Sony can't ban dupers for ruining trading, because trading isn't something that PD wanted to take place in the first place. It isn't Sony's problem if people are using an exploit to ruin a feature of a game that for all intents and purposes doesn't officially exist.
 
wesyu
Sony just ban a lot of hackers on COD...Of coruse those hackers deserve to get banned, they almost ruined the whole online community, however I am a little suprised that they ban prestige hackers as well...If someone knows how COD prestige hack works, plz let me know. cuz if it's like a glitch as GT5's save and reload dup car method, then traders gotta be careful or stop trading cars, cuz sony might start to ban GT5 duppers in the next update or in few days.
Click to expand...

On topic, no.

Off topic, read the AUP.
 
I don't think is like "Illegal", but it just removes the exciting about trading. It's a shame, it would've been awesome to join a race and see the X1 as an amazing appearance, like seeing spiderman swinging over the streets XD, now is like "hooo, another X1?, give me a break.. ."
 
i know, but i am afraid of being banned because of dupping cars...

cuz they also ban prestige hackers on COD after this update. prestige hacker is like duppers in GT5. They dont cheat at online matches, they just boost up their own rank, sounds fimiliar as duppers, just increase car collection in your garage while done nothing harmful to others.
 
cod and socom is ranking up / codes to cheat.

gt5 is a save option. has no gain in the game. you still got to race to rank up!

i use the save option. if i send someone a car. and that person dosen't send one back i don't lose my car i sent! whats the foul?

so unless someone comes up with a d/l code to rank up on gt5. there's no foul. it only made all cars not worth squat LOL
 
thats dumb... no pun intended. but i always save my file on a flash drive before i send a car to a stranger, for my protection so i dont get a loss if i get screwed over. i see no harm in it either.
 
Sorry about this but could someone put an easy to unders tand way of duping cars as i want to be able to do it?
Thanks.
 
@ MIKE1FL: Your best option is to use the search feature in the upper right hand part of your page when you back out to the Q&A Forum.
 
Gerseph
@ MIKE1FL: Your best option is to use the search feature in the upper right hand part of your page when you back out to the Q&A Forum.
Click to expand...
Excellent advice. 👍
 
There is an essential difference between hacking and duping. The below is only my own personal opinion and can not be seen as legal advice. I'm not responsible for actions based on the below and bla, bla, bla

1) Hacking is breaking through Sony's security measures. It is changing the way the systems works to circumvent copyright or other rights.

I did not analyse the whole PSN Terms of Service, but this is an example:
You may not use, make, or distribute unauthorized software or hardware, including Non-Licensed Peripherals, in conjunction with Sony Online Services, or take or use any data from Sony Online Services to design, develop or update unauthorized software or hardware, including cheat code software or devices that circumvent any security features or limitations included on any software or devices.
Click to expand...

If you break the term of service, Sony has the right to stop the service.

2) duping is an exploit:

Wikipedia:
An exploit (from the same word in the French language, meaning "achievement", or "accomplishment") is a piece of software, a chunk of data, or sequence of commands that take advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behavior to occur on computer software, hardware, or something electronic (usually computerised). This frequently includes such things as gaining control of a computer system or allowing privilege escalation or a denial of service attack.
Click to expand...

If you use it in the way that infringes the PSN Terms of Service (privilege escalation, a denial of service attack, ...), Sony can stop the service.

However I can not find any reference in the Terms of Service that you can not use the functionality of their games to progress in a way through the game that was "unintended or unanticipated" in the design of the game.

3) If you dupe and use the number of paints or cars to win a competition it would only be unfair if you did not state you are duping.


Many people accept that you do things on your own (your choice) as long as you do not ruin the enjoyment of others.

Since duping does not give you an unfair advantage over other users in a 1 to 1 race, most people will not mind.

P.S.: I dupe
 
Duping = Sharing is caring. Helping someone complete their car list while keeping your own intact.

Dont hate. :p With great duping comes great responsibility.

EDIT: To keep in the topic, hacking and cheating online is different to duping. We're are just sending cars and other items in between accounts. Dupers are actually helping others instead of ruining the game. I know, I know it takes away the enjoyment of getting cars your own, but it makes trading "more fun" somehow.

I recently just started using a second account and backing up my save everytime I send a car out for a trade. In the same time too, I grind money so that in my main account I could get cars from the UCD and the dealerships. In my second account, I just do it to race again in GT5, because in my main account, I'm almost finish with all the races except a few and the endurance races. Also in my second account I could get some tickets that I have wasted from my main and might trade thsoe for cars I need in my main.
 
Last edited:
Well, I'd at least be laughing my behind of, if they did.

I can only imagine all hell breaking loose around here :lol:
 
If sony banned people that used exploits, I know for a fact more than half of the player base on MAG would be banned. Exploits are in every game, if you know how to find them.
 
This will never happen.:lol: Also I notice in this thread there are a lot of posts with poor grammar and/or text speak, please can everyone abide by the AUP in future, it's there for a reason.👍
 
Last edited:
One thing we need to think about is that if duping is an exploit, its a glaringly obvious one and one that was used almost immediately after the last update. PD will have known about this and decided to leave it in. So if PD thinks its ok then thats good enough for me.
 
Acheron79
One thing we need to think about is that if duping is an exploit, its a glaringly obvious one and one that was used almost immediately after the last update. PD will have known about this and decided to leave it in. So if PD thinks its ok then thats good enough for me.
Click to expand...

Or instead of removing the chance of has having to dupe cars. Maybe they'll implement a proper trading feature in GT5. Maybe something like a marketplace in an MMO game.
 
kidd0218
Or instead of removing the chance of has having to dupe cars. Maybe they'll implement a proper trading feature in GT5. Maybe something like a marketplace in an MMO game.
Click to expand...

It's not going to happen anytime soon, the reason that there are limits on gifting is probably because the servers can't cope with the load and you want to add to that. I can only the imagine the amount of problems they would be if they do this right now.
 
lol! I don't see the problem with duping personally ... I don't see a way to get a complete car list any other way tbh.

Plus, if a friend of yours get scammed are you telling me you wouldn't dupe them the car they traded for (if you had it) to help them out. I have done this a few times now and can I please shout this out ... Duping isn't the problem! It's the continual scamming that people get away with that is! ... Now please focus on the more important fact for the rest of the thread :)

Oh btw, I find that if you want to be assured you will have a fair trade and you wont get scammed I have noticed that it is best to trade with people who are duping cars, I've had no problem trading with total strangers because they are dupers :)
 
dhandes
On topic, no.

Off topic, read the AUP.
Click to expand...

This...on both counts.


As Vince_Fiero has explained there is a difference between hacking a system and exploiting a glitch. If the argument is that duping is ruining the trading system then that's nonsense as there is no trading system, PD has provided a feature that allows you to gift cars and items to your PSN friends but there is nothing in place to receive anything in return unless you make and abide by an agreement made outside GT5. If the argument is that it makes online racing unfair then again this doesn't hold up as the rewards provided by the seasonal events mean that even someone just starting the game is able to accrue enough money and reach a high enough level to buy pretty much any car in the game in a couple of weeks.

Duplication of cars and items was made possible by the implementation of game saves that can be copied to a USB stick which was a feature requested by this and other GT communities so that we could protect our progress in the event of a game save corruption or PS3 failure. I'm sure there would many more people inconvenienced if this feature was removed due to duping complaints than the duping itself.


I'll also highlight the below extract from the New policy on scamming and reporting bad trades thread in the GT5 Marketplace forum which pretty much sets out GTPlanet's stance on the issue.

As many of you may know by now, the latest GT5 Patch allows for the backing up of game saves. This allows players to back up their games before enacting trades. Which means that they can recover cars lost through scams or server errors. We strongly encourage all members to do so. This is for your own protection.

Thank you,

The moderation team.
Click to expand...
 
I still don't see why you all complain about dupers, how exactly is it ruining your gaming experience? Stop being lazy and set up the online races properly and you wont have a problem. Organize your races better, there are plenty of options for you to weed out the unskilled.

Ya'll stay trying to tell people how they should play OFFLINE... Let us spend our $60 the way we see fit.
If I want to have several classes of the same car that i earned who are you to say that I can't have that? especially after I worked for my money.
 
Last edited:
I dont see the problem too, the dupe cars arent fast than the "single" cars, so in the track only counts the skills, theres no glitch for that.
 
If this thread is just going to turn into another discussion about whether duping is bad/wrong/good etc, maybe it should be locked.
 
I could understand if there was no clipping or something like that, but these guys are Bitching just for the sake of it... There is nothing about duping that breaks the online experience, especially with all the options in online... You can successfully neuter the real cheaters there.
lol first time some one walks off with one of your F1 cars, i bet you'll be duping too... HA!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest Posts

Back