BDR: Weekend Race SeriesDraft

[GTracer38]

I totally forgot about the Maser. I'll build it quick tonight and check it just to make sure it's close to similar.

EDIT: While it gets to 865, I don't think the Maser is particularly competitive. It's phenomenally fast on the straights, but it just doesn't have the braking or cornering that the proper GTs have. Only managed a 2:13.259 at Yas in it and it was ~8mph up on even the Bentley on the first straight.
I'd say someone is welcome to try it, and at Monza or Daytona it might work, but I suspect you'd be in for a struggle.

Interesting. It wouldn't make much of a car for one lap pace, but could be a great race car in the right hands.

I'll leave it up to everyone else if they want to allow it. I'm happy to have it on the list, but I could understand if people didn't think it was suitable.

• Watkins Glen
• Road Atlanta
• COTA
• Monza
• Hockenheim
• Spa
• Le Mans Bugatti
• Nurburgring Nordschleife
• Nurburgring 24hr
  
• Daytona
• Silverstone
• Road America

I've just added Clyde's suggestions into to yours. I'll just get the tracks and stick in a new poll tonight or tomorrow.

I'll go through and post up all my builds tonight so everyone can try them out.

Sounds good I hope they all have Race Brakes since a couple of the cars have them as stock.

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I've got some bad news. I've been living in a rental house for the last 8 or 9 years, and the owner just let me know I have to be out by May 1st. I've got so much stuff to move and so many things to do to get this done, so I won't be available for racing until at least May.

That sucks Good luck with your moving!

Hm, I'd maybe swap Daytona for Road America and run the full 24h layout instead of just the Nordschleife; other than that, it seems like a really good calendar. Maybe we could make that last race a bit longer?

Potentially. Depends on the amount of people I guess. Noted.

Mass-Effect inspired jokes aside, anyone in favor of delaying the beginning of the next series until Pop can join us? We could do something else in the meanwhile, like testing, or spec racing.

My only qualm would be that there is a chance for all of us to not be available from time to time.
That said, if the majority are in favor of running a short spec series while we test builds, test time slots and organize the GT series, I'd be glad to do that.

One last thing: how should we decide whether or not race in the rain for the circuits that have the option available? I was thinking that we could have a random draw based on the weather forecast data for the interested tracks. That would keep things interesting.

Live weather...cool! I think that would be a pretty good way of deciding it unless people would prefer to know in advance for practice purposes.

I'm going to go and do Easter things for while now.

 

[Populuxe]

Mass-Effect inspired jokes aside, anyone in favor of delaying the beginning of the next series until Pop can join us? We could do something else in the meanwhile, like testing, or spec racing.

Please don't do that. Go ahead with the racing and I'll join in when I can.

That sucks Good luck with your moving!

Thanks.

 

[GTracer38]

@SlipZtrEm - Could you delete the poll, please?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

@SlipZtrEm - Could you delete the poll, please?

Done. 👍

 

[GTracer38]

New poll up! Trying to keep events to 1hr/1.5hr at the moment. Hopefully that is fine with people.

Done. 👍

Thanks

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

Tonight, several days later...same difference. Sorry guys, I've said it so much it's getting old but I'm insane-level busy with work right now so it's tough to remember to do this stuff! Sorry!

Edit: should note, the M3 & RSR end up at 864. All other cars should be 865 if built properly.
I might have missed some upgrades so if you build to this and don't end up at that PI let me know and I'll look into it!
Also, I haven't done the older 12C or the 458 GTC/GTD. If anyone wants me to I can, but I kind of forgot they were actually different cars...

Anyways, here we go:

1. BMW M3 GT2
   1. Race Brakes
   2. Race Driveline
   3. 345mm Rear Tires
2. Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. Race Driveline
   4. 315mm Front Tires
   5. 335mm Rear Tires
3. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
   1. Remove Restrictors
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 330mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
4. Ferrari 458 Italia GTLM
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 335mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
5. BMW Z4 GTE
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 355mm Front Tires
   4. 375mm Rear Tires
6. Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. Race Driveline
   4. 325mm Front Tires
   5. 345mm Rear Tires
7. Aston Martin DBR9
   1. 355mm Rear Tires
   2. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
8. McLaren 12C GT3
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 330mm Front Tires
   4. 350mm Rear Tires
9. Bentley Continental GT3
   1. Remove Restrictors
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 335mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
10. Nissan NISMO MOTUL AUTECH GTR
    1. 310mm Front Tires
    2. 325mm Rear Tires
    3. 18-inch Tenzo DC-6 V1 wheels (or same weight)
11. Lamborghini Huracan ST
    1. Race Ignition
    2. Race Valves
    3. Rave Brakes
    4. Race Driveline
    5. 335mm Front Tires
    6. 345mm Rear Tires
12. Dodge Viper GTS-R
    1. Remove Restrictors
    2. Race Brakes
    3. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
13. Audi R8 LMS ultra
    1. Race Intake
    2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
    3. Race Camshaft
    4. Sport Valves
    5. Race Engine Block
    6. Remove Restrictors
    7. Race Brakes
    8. Race Driveline
    9. 315mm Front Tires
    10. 345mm Rear Tires
14. Lamborghini Gallardo ST
    1. Race Intake
    2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
    3. Race Ignition
    4. Race Engine Block
    5. Race Pistons
    6. Race Brakes
    7. Sport Driveline
    8. 305mm Front Tires
    9. 335mm Rear Tires
15. Maserati MC Trofeo
    1. Fully Upgraded except for Oil & Cooling (stock)

So there they are. Let me know what you guys think!

 

[05XR8]

I like the M235i Cup and the HQ series.

 

[ClydeYellow]

With the FXX K now in the game, should we consider the possibility of a spec series in the future? It'd surely beat having a 488 Challenge, imho.

 

[GTracer38]

Tonight, several days later...same difference. Sorry guys, I've said it so much it's getting old but I'm insane-level busy with work right now so it's tough to remember to do this stuff! Sorry!

Edit: should note, the M3 & RSR end up at 864. All other cars should be 865 if built properly.
I might have missed some upgrades so if you build to this and don't end up at that PI let me know and I'll look into it!
Also, I haven't done the older 12C or the 458 GTC/GTD. If anyone wants me to I can, but I kind of forgot they were actually different cars...

Anyways, here we go:

1. BMW M3 GT2
   1. Race Brakes
   2. Race Driveline
   3. 345mm Rear Tires (Max front tires and no restrictor plate too)
2. Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. Race Driveline
   4. 315mm Front Tires
   5. 335mm Rear Tires
3. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
   1. Remove Restrictors
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 330mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
4. Ferrari 458 Italia GTLM
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 335mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
5. BMW Z4 GTE
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 355mm Front Tires
   4. 375mm Rear Tires
6. Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. Race Driveline
   4. 325mm Front Tires
   5. 345mm Rear Tires
7. Aston Martin DBR9
   1. 355mm Rear Tires
   2. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
8. McLaren 12C GT3
   1. No Restrictor Plate
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 330mm Front Tires
   4. 350mm Rear Tires
9. Bentley Continental GT3
   1. Remove Restrictors
   2. Race Brakes
   3. 335mm Front Tires
   4. 345mm Rear Tires
10. Nissan NISMO MOTUL AUTECH GTR
    1. 310mm Front Tires
    2. 325mm Rear Tires
    3. 18-inch Tenzo DC-6 V1 wheels (or same weight)
11. Lamborghini Huracan ST
    1. Race Ignition
    2. Race Valves
    3. Rave Brakes
    4. Race Driveline
    5. 335mm Front Tires
    6. 345mm Rear Tires
12. Dodge Viper GTS-R
    1. Remove Restrictors
    2. Race Brakes
    3. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
13. Audi R8 LMS ultra
    1. Race Intake
    2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
    3. Race Camshaft
    4. Sport Valves
    5. Race Engine Block
    6. Remove Restrictors
    7. Race Brakes
    8. Race Driveline
    9. 315mm Front Tires
    10. 345mm Rear Tires
14. Lamborghini Gallardo ST
    1. Race Intake
    2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
    3. Race Ignition
    4. Race Engine Block
    5. Race Pistons
    6. Race Brakes
    7. Sport Driveline
    8. 305mm Front Tires
    9. 335mm Rear Tires
15. Maserati MC Trofeo
    1. Fully Upgraded except for Oil & Cooling (stock)

So there they are. Let me know what you guys think!

Thanks for this! I've finally gotten the chance to sample them all (at Hockenheim, since it favours handling slightly). Rather then post up my times, I'm going to post up the combined times (your laps at Yas Marina) so to try and remove driving style as a factor.
It's ordered from fastest to slowest and shown in seconds.

Lamborghini Huracan - 232.273
Audi R8 LMS - 232.372
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BMW Z4 GTE - 232.765
Aston Martin DBR9 - 232.811
Ferrari 458 GTC - 232.897
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3 - 233.065
McLaren 12C GT3 - 233.081
BMW M3 GT2 - 233.174
Porsche 997 RSR - 233.257
Chevrolet C7.R - 233.315
SRT Viper GTS-R - 233.317 R863
Ferrari 458 GTLM - 233.345
Lamborghini Gallardo ST - 233.384
Nissan R35 GTR - 233.591
McLaren MP4-12C GT3 - 233.763 R864
Dodge Viper GTS-R - 233.780
Bentley Continental GT3 - 233.796
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Maserati MC Trofeo - 234.698

The reason there are 3 'divisions' (per se) is because of a larger then normal gap. The Huracan and R8 would be 2-3 tenths quicker per lap (half the gap shown) on each track and the Maserati would be half a second slower.
Nothing can be done about the Maserati, it just has to be noted it isn't as quick over a lap. As for the Audi and Huracan...maybe one size less tires or the could be left as is but not allowed to be used by the quickest drivers?

As for the rest. On average, they are all within half a second per lap. With the success penalties (5-10% power and/or grip) there shouldn't be any distinct advantage from one car to another.

One other note, the extra cars run on the same No Restrictor Plate, Race Brakes, Full Width tires system that you used for most cars. I also found the Dodge Viper to be 2 tenths faster using that system rather then the way you did it (Remove Restrictors and add heavier rims). Seemed to be a bit better balanced too, even though its only at R861.

I like the M235i Cup and the HQ series.

I'll get onto making a build for BMW. You said you had a HQ build somewhere (iirc)?
Post it up!

With the FXX K now in the game, should we consider the possibility of a spec series in the future? It'd surely beat having a 488 Challenge, imho.

I'd love the idea of an FXXK Challenge series. Might come a little bit later though.

 

[05XR8]

HQ Series Build

Introduction: http://www.hqracing.org/
specs: http://www.hqracing.org/assets/hq-biblecom-2016.pdf

Forza build (FPRBLUE56): search for "HQ Spec series"

Minimum weight: 2963lbs(1344kgs) sport weight reduction

Racing transmission only gears 1,2 &3 are used
1st gear/3.07:1
2nd gear/1:68:1
3rd gear/1.00:1
Final drive/3.55:1
Maximum speed is reached on the limiter at Bathurst
Tested at Spa and found had a few more revs before the end of the longest straight


235/65-14 street tyres, Mickey Thompson wheels or similar weight wheel

street air intake
roll cage
racing suspension all settings stock except: Front -3.0 camber max. , Rear -1.0 camber max.
ride height Front 6.0, Rear 5.7

 

[GTracer38]

The results from the Poll:

- The GT Series will be 8 rounds held over 8 weeks. 4 races on the Euro time slot and 4 on the US time slot.

- Each round will feature one 40 minute race. There will be NO pit stops in any of the races. Since there will be no pit stops, damage will be turned off (collisions stay on).

- There will be a 9th week of racing which will comprise of a single-extended duration race, running at a compromised time slot.



Here are the 9 tracks that made the cut (in proposed calendar order);
1 - Silverstone GP

2 - COTA GP

3 - Brands Hatch GP

4 - Watkins Glen Full

5 - Spa Francorchamps

6 - Road America Full

7 - Yas Marina Full (or Catalunya GP)

8 - Laguna Seca (or Lime Rock Full/West)

NC - Nurburgring 24hr

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HQ Series Build

Introduction: http://www.hqracing.org/
specs: http://www.hqracing.org/assets/hq-biblecom-2016.pdf

Forza build (FPRBLUE56): search for "HQ Spec series"

Minimum weight: 2963lbs(1344kgs) street weight reduction

Racing transmission only gears 1,2 &3 are used
1st gear/3.07:1
2nd gear/1:68:1
3rd gear/1.00:1
Final drive/3.55:1
Maximum speed is reached on the limiter at Bathurst
Tested at Spa and found had a few more revs before the end of the longest straight


235/65-14 street tyres, Mickey Thompson wheels or similar weight wheel

street air intake
roll cage
racing suspension all settings stock except: Front -3.0 camber max. , Rear -1.0 camber max.
ride height Front 6.0, Rear 5.7

Thanks! I'll try this out later today

 

[05XR8]

No prob. I think i'll do a mock up of this series with the AI.

 

[GTracer38]

I completely forgot about this, sorry...

I'll have something up by the end of the week (not GT since there is another series here for that).

 

[STALLIONO]

I'd love for a GT Series to happen. I'd also Team up with someone in the Corvette or the Ferrari.

 

[GTracer38]

I'd love for a GT Series to happen. I'd also Team up with someone in the Corvette or the Ferrari.

Might be worth looking into whether people still want to run in that. The Touring Cars don't seem to be generating any interest.

I don't what happened to the series @Chevy Fan was organising but that looks to not be running anymore. So it wouldn't conflict with anything else here to run a GT Series.

 

[STALLIONO]

Might be worth looking into whether people still want to run in that. The Touring Cars don't seem to be generating any interest.

I don't what happened to the series @Chevy Fan was organising but that looks to not be running anymore. So it wouldn't conflict with anything else here to run a GT Series.

Yeah that was me. I tried to gain interest for that Series. I'd love for that Series to kick off. I need to find a good Forum and people willing to help out. I think that Series could be a great success. Would you be interested in helping me run it?