Draft BDR: Weekend Race Series

Discussion in 'FM6 Online Racing' started by GTracer38, Mar 15, 2016.

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GT Series - Track Selection (Choose your top 6 preferences)

Poll closed Apr 9, 2016.
  1. Brands Hatch GP

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Catalunya GP

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. Spa-Francorchamps

    5 vote(s)
    83.3%
  4. Daytona (24hr layout)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Indianapolis GP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. COTA GP

    4 vote(s)
    66.7%
  7. Hockenheim Full (GP)

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. Le Mans Full

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  9. Le Mans Bugatti

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Lime Rock Full (or West)

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  11. Long Beach Full

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Laguna Seca

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  13. Mount Panorama (Bathurst)

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  14. Nurburgring GP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Nurburgring Nordschleife

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Nurburgring 24hr

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  17. Road America Full

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  18. Road Atlanta Full

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  19. Sebring Full

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  20. Silverstone GP

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  21. Sonoma Full (or GP/Indy)

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  22. Watkins Glen Full

    4 vote(s)
    66.7%
  23. Yas Marina Full (GP)

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  24. ----------------GT Series - Number of rounds (weeks) - (Choose 1)----

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  25. 8

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  26. 10

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  27. 12

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  28. ----------------GT Series - End of season enduro (Choose 1)----------

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  29. Yes, one for each time slot (ie: extended last race)

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  30. Yes, combined race

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  31. No

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  32. ----------------GT Series - Race Length/Format (Choose 1)-----------

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  33. 1 Race per round / 40min per race

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  34. 1 Race per round / 1hr per race

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  35. 2 Races per round / 20min per race

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  36. 2 Races per round / 30min per race

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  37. 3 Races per round / 20min per race

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  38. ----------------GT Series - Mandatory Pit Stops (Choose 1)-------

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  39. Yes

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  40. No

    4 vote(s)
    66.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. GTracer38

    GTracer38

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    Interesting. It wouldn't make much of a car for one lap pace, but could be a great race car in the right hands.

    I'll leave it up to everyone else if they want to allow it. I'm happy to have it on the list, but I could understand if people didn't think it was suitable. :)

    I've just added Clyde's suggestions into to yours. I'll just get the tracks and stick in a new poll tonight or tomorrow.

    Sounds good :) I hope they all have Race Brakes since a couple of the cars have them as stock. ;)

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    That sucks :( Good luck with your moving!

    Potentially. Depends on the amount of people I guess. Noted.

    My only qualm would be that there is a chance for all of us to not be available from time to time.
    That said, if the majority are in favor of running a short spec series while we test builds, test time slots and organize the GT series, I'd be glad to do that.

    Live weather...cool! I think that would be a pretty good way of deciding it unless people would prefer to know in advance for practice purposes.

    I'm going to go and do Easter things for while now. :)
     
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  2. Populuxe Cowboy

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    Please don't do that. Go ahead with the racing and I'll join in when I can.

    Thanks.
     
  3. GTracer38

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    @SlipZtrEm - Could you delete the poll, please?
     
  4. SlipZtrEm

    SlipZtrEm Staff Emeritus

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    Done. :tup:
     
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  5. GTracer38

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    New poll up! Trying to keep events to 1hr/1.5hr at the moment. Hopefully that is fine with people.

    Thanks :)
     
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  6. HighSeasHoMastr

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    Tonight, several days later...same difference. Sorry guys, I've said it so much it's getting old but I'm insane-level busy with work right now so it's tough to remember to do this stuff! Sorry!

    Edit: should note, the M3 & RSR end up at 864. All other cars should be 865 if built properly.
    I might have missed some upgrades so if you build to this and don't end up at that PI let me know and I'll look into it!
    Also, I haven't done the older 12C or the 458 GTC/GTD. If anyone wants me to I can, but I kind of forgot they were actually different cars...

    Anyways, here we go:
    1. BMW M3 GT2
      1. Race Brakes
      2. Race Driveline
      3. 345mm Rear Tires
    2. Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
      1. No Restrictor Plate
      2. Race Brakes
      3. Race Driveline
      4. 315mm Front Tires
      5. 335mm Rear Tires
    3. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
      1. Remove Restrictors
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 330mm Front Tires
      4. 345mm Rear Tires
    4. Ferrari 458 Italia GTLM
      1. No Restrictor Plate
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 335mm Front Tires
      4. 345mm Rear Tires
    5. BMW Z4 GTE
      1. No Restrictor Plate
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 355mm Front Tires
      4. 375mm Rear Tires
    6. Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
      1. No Restrictor Plate
      2. Race Brakes
      3. Race Driveline
      4. 325mm Front Tires
      5. 345mm Rear Tires
    7. Aston Martin DBR9
      1. 355mm Rear Tires
      2. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
    8. McLaren 12C GT3
      1. No Restrictor Plate
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 330mm Front Tires
      4. 350mm Rear Tires
    9. Bentley Continental GT3
      1. Remove Restrictors
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 335mm Front Tires
      4. 345mm Rear Tires
    10. Nissan NISMO MOTUL AUTECH GTR
      1. 310mm Front Tires
      2. 325mm Rear Tires
      3. 18-inch Tenzo DC-6 V1 wheels (or same weight)
    11. Lamborghini Huracan ST
      1. Race Ignition
      2. Race Valves
      3. Rave Brakes
      4. Race Driveline
      5. 335mm Front Tires
      6. 345mm Rear Tires
    12. Dodge Viper GTS-R
      1. Remove Restrictors
      2. Race Brakes
      3. 18-inch Momo Rush wheels (or same weight)
    13. Audi R8 LMS ultra
      1. Race Intake
      2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
      3. Race Camshaft
      4. Sport Valves
      5. Race Engine Block
      6. Remove Restrictors
      7. Race Brakes
      8. Race Driveline
      9. 315mm Front Tires
      10. 345mm Rear Tires
    14. Lamborghini Gallardo ST
      1. Race Intake
      2. Race Intake Manifold/Throttle Body
      3. Race Ignition
      4. Race Engine Block
      5. Race Pistons
      6. Race Brakes
      7. Sport Driveline
      8. 305mm Front Tires
      9. 335mm Rear Tires
    15. Maserati MC Trofeo
      1. Fully Upgraded except for Oil & Cooling (stock)


    So there they are. Let me know what you guys think!
     
  7. 05XR8

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    I like the M235i Cup and the HQ series.
     
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  8. ClydeYellow

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    With the FXX K now in the game, should we consider the possibility of a spec series in the future? It'd surely beat having a 488 Challenge, imho. :lol:
     
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  9. GTracer38

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    Thanks for this! I've finally gotten the chance to sample them all (at Hockenheim, since it favours handling slightly). Rather then post up my times, I'm going to post up the combined times (your laps at Yas Marina) so to try and remove driving style as a factor.
    It's ordered from fastest to slowest and shown in seconds.

    Lamborghini Huracan - 232.273
    Audi R8 LMS - 232.372
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    BMW Z4 GTE - 232.765
    Aston Martin DBR9 - 232.811
    Ferrari 458 GTC - 232.897
    Mercedes SLS AMG GT3 - 233.065
    McLaren 12C GT3 - 233.081
    BMW M3 GT2 - 233.174
    Porsche 997 RSR - 233.257
    Chevrolet C7.R - 233.315
    SRT Viper GTS-R - 233.317 R863
    Ferrari 458 GTLM - 233.345
    Lamborghini Gallardo ST - 233.384
    Nissan R35 GTR - 233.591
    McLaren MP4-12C GT3 - 233.763 R864
    Dodge Viper GTS-R - 233.780
    Bentley Continental GT3 - 233.796
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    Maserati MC Trofeo - 234.698

    The reason there are 3 'divisions' (per se) is because of a larger then normal gap. The Huracan and R8 would be 2-3 tenths quicker per lap (half the gap shown) on each track and the Maserati would be half a second slower.
    Nothing can be done about the Maserati, it just has to be noted it isn't as quick over a lap. As for the Audi and Huracan...maybe one size less tires or the could be left as is but not allowed to be used by the quickest drivers?

    As for the rest. On average, they are all within half a second per lap. With the success penalties (5-10% power and/or grip) there shouldn't be any distinct advantage from one car to another. :)

    One other note, the extra cars run on the same No Restrictor Plate, Race Brakes, Full Width tires system that you used for most cars. I also found the Dodge Viper to be 2 tenths faster using that system rather then the way you did it (Remove Restrictors and add heavier rims). Seemed to be a bit better balanced too, even though its only at R861.

    I'll get onto making a build for BMW. You said you had a HQ build somewhere (iirc)?
    Post it up! :D

    I'd love the idea of an FXXK Challenge series. Might come a little bit later though.
     
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  10. 05XR8

    05XR8

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    HQ Series Build

    Introduction: http://www.hqracing.org/
    specs: http://www.hqracing.org/assets/hq-biblecom-2016.pdf

    Forza build (FPRBLUE56): search for "HQ Spec series"

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    Minimum weight: 2963lbs
    (1344kgs) sport weight reduction

    Racing transmission only gears 1,2 &3 are used
    1st gear/
    3.07:1
    2nd gear/1:68:1
    3rd gear/1.00:1
    Final drive/3.55:1
    Maximum speed is reached on the limiter at Bathurst
    Tested at Spa and found had a few more revs before the end of the longest straight


    235/65-14 street tyres, Mickey Thompson wheels or similar weight wheel

    street air intake
    roll cage
    racing suspension all settings stock except: Front -3.0 camber max. , Rear -1.0 camber max.
    ride height Front 6.0, Rear 5.7

     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2016
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  11. GTracer38

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    The results from the Poll:

    - The GT Series will be 8 rounds held over 8 weeks. 4 races on the Euro time slot and 4 on the US time slot.

    - Each round will feature one 40 minute race. There will be NO pit stops in any of the races. Since there will be no pit stops, damage will be turned off (collisions stay on).

    - There will be a 9th week of racing which will comprise of a single-extended duration race, running at a compromised time slot.



    Here are the 9 tracks that made the cut (in proposed calendar order);
    1 - Silverstone GP

    2 - COTA GP

    3 - Brands Hatch GP

    4 - Watkins Glen Full

    5 - Spa Francorchamps

    6 - Road America Full

    7 - Yas Marina Full (or Catalunya GP)

    8 - Laguna Seca (or Lime Rock Full/West)

    NC - Nurburgring 24hr

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    Thanks! I'll try this out later today :)
     
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  12. 05XR8

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    No prob. I think i'll do a mock up of this series with the AI.
     
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  13. GTracer38

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    I completely forgot about this, sorry...:ouch::nervous:

    I'll have something up by the end of the week (not GT since there is another series here for that).
     
  14. STALLIONO

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    I'd love for a GT Series to happen. I'd also Team up with someone in the Corvette or the Ferrari.
     
  15. GTracer38

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    Might be worth looking into whether people still want to run in that. The Touring Cars don't seem to be generating any interest.

    I don't what happened to the series @Chevy Fan was organising but that looks to not be running anymore. So it wouldn't conflict with anything else here to run a GT Series.
     
  16. STALLIONO

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    Yeah that was me. I tried to gain interest for that Series. I'd love for that Series to kick off. I need to find a good Forum and people willing to help out. I think that Series could be a great success. Would you be interested in helping me run it?
     
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