Best accelerating cars out of a corner?

[Mini Stiggy]

What cars do you guys think accelerate out of the corners the fastest for 550-600pp?

 

[GTV0819]

Could be a slightly detuned 330 P4 IMHO.

 

[fbccars924]

My Ferrari SP1 Spec 2 Track car tune is fairly quick. Obviously the redbulls and the FGT but they're not a surprise

 

[NinjaDesignz]

For 600pp, the 458 Italia is pretty good.

 

[fbccars924]

^ I can outrun it lol. I have outran quite a few 600pp 458's in my 582pp SP1. I'm still trying to catch up to the Enzo's though.

 

[NinjaDesignz]

lol, they must really suck, but I do like how the Enzo drives through corners.

 

[fbccars924]

Well, I'm not the best driver myself but on the straights I can run the 458's down. The Enzo's just walk away from me on te straights but I get the edge in the corners.

 

[NinjaDesignz]

Yea, the Enzo's have really good straight line speed.

 

[fbccars924]

^yeah with a little more power and a little more final rear gear I might be able to get em.

 

[NinjaDesignz]

^yeah with a little more power and a little more final rear gear I might be able to get em.

Good Luck with that (he said in a non-sarcastic tone).

 

[fbccars924]

Then again if the Enzo's are upgraded I'm boned

 

[NinjaDesignz]

Then again if the Enzo's are upgraded I'm boned

 

[Firehound427]

I'd imagine something AWD would get the best grip out of corners. Example? I once ran a bit of Cote d'Azur with a Corvette Z06, and then with an R8 V10, and the Audi turned out to be three seconds quicker. I found that I could nail the power coming out of a corner where the RWD Chevy would just wheelspin. So the R8 seems like a good choice, and it'll only take a few mods to get it to 550PP. The GT-R is another good choice, with good all-round abilities and monstrous acceleration.

 

[GTV0819]

I'd imagine something AWD would get the best grip out of corners. Example? I once ran a bit of Cote d'Azur with a Corvette Z06, and then with an R8 V10, and the Audi turned out to be three seconds quicker. I found that I could nail the power coming out of a corner where the RWD Chevy would just wheelspin. So the R8 seems like a good choice, and it'll only take a few mods to get it to 550PP. The GT-R is another good choice, with good all-round abilities and monstrous acceleration.

GT-R > Better and faster than an LFA, lol.

 

[jgancherjr]

I'd imagine something AWD would get the best grip out of corners.

This ^ has completely nailed it!

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'd imagine something AWD would get the best grip out of corners. Example? I once ran a bit of Cote d'Azur with a Corvette Z06, and then with an R8 V10, and the Audi turned out to be three seconds quicker. I found that I could nail the power coming out of a corner where the RWD Chevy would just wheelspin. So the R8 seems like a good choice, and it'll only take a few mods to get it to 550PP. The GT-R is another good choice, with good all-round abilities and monstrous acceleration.

R8 vs. Z06 the R8 wins hands down because it has far more lateral grip and rotates much better than a Z06, 4wd has nothing to do with it. It's just a far better car.

In online racing most rooms are on RS tires so 4wd has little effect. If we're talking about street tires like SH or CS, 4wd can produce a significant advantage on some courses, but a skilled driver will still be very close or better in a top RWD car. Many 4wd have disadvantageous torque curves that get over rated by the PP system costing them valuable HP in the process.

 

[GTV0819]

R8 vs. Z06 the R8 wins hands down because it has far more lateral grip and rotates much better than a Z06, 4wd has nothing to do with it. It's just a far better car.

In online racing most rooms are on RS tires so 4wd has little effect. If we're talking about street tires like SH or CS, 4wd can produce a significant advantage on some courses, but a skilled driver will still be very close or better in a top RWD car. Many 4wd have disadvantageous torque curves that get over rated by the PP system costing them valuable HP in the process.

The R8 is the better car, possibly since the ZR6 has a pushrod V8 that makes it inferior to the R8.

 

[jgancherjr]

Ok... I'm never confrontational but I just don't know where to begin or who to begin with.. So we'll start from the beginning..

Then again if the Enzo's are upgraded I'm boned

If they are upgraded they will be well over 550-600PP unlike what the OP was looking for.

R8 vs. Z06 the R8 wins hands down because it has far more lateral grip and rotates much better than a Z06, 4wd has nothing to do with it. It's just a far better car.

In online racing most rooms are on RS tires so 4wd has little effect. If we're talking about street tires like SH or CS, 4wd can produce a significant advantage on some courses, but a skilled driver will still be very close or better in a top RWD car. Many 4wd have disadvantageous torque curves that get over rated by the PP system costing them valuable HP in the process.

This I can almost agree with, but as for what I "bolded": It has more lateral grip because of its 4WD system. The engineers have designed the vehicle to be equipped with wider tires all the way around to support the 4WD setup (instead of just on the back on RWD at this PP) The 4WD system also causes the car to be much heavier, both of these things give it more lateral grip.. But the second half of your statement I can completely agree with 👍

The R8 is the better car, possibly since the ZR6 has a pushrod V8 that makes it inferior to the R8.

So, I do as I do and research before I argue.. Let's take a look at this.

Corvette Z06 (C6)

0-60MPH: 3.8 seconds
0-100MPH 7.7 seconds
Standing 1/4 mile: 11.7 seconds at 127MPH
Top speed: 198MPH
Starting price (New): $62,500


Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro

0-60MPH: 3.8 seconds
0-100MPH: 8.5 seconds
Standing 1/4 mile: 12.1 seconds at 120MPH
Top Speed: 196MPH
Starting price (New): $146,000

So I am concluding:

A. Inferior engine? .. With the above information, absolutely Not..

B. Inferior engine quality? .. With only a couple minutes of research I found this: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-general/1556929-service-work-needed-in-232-000-miles.html A LS1 has been recorded with a service history of slightly over 232,000 Miles without an engine rebuild, so no..

C. Inferior Build quality of the rest of the car? I will not say inferior, but I will say cheaper.. Yes the Audi will be considerably nicer inside and out with better materials, I am sure if you placed them both in a junk yard and just let them sit there, over time the Corvette would wither away from the elements long before the Audi! Even if you went beating around a track I'm sure the Audi (Built with better/stronger materials) would outlast the Corvette also ... But in either of the instances, at $83,500 more than the Corvette in order to still be a "value for the money" , or to make the corvette "inferior" one Audi R8 would have to:
- Outlast the first Corvette.
- Buy another Corvette, than outlast it.
- Then buy the 3rd Corvette and outlast 1/3 of it's life also.

I just simply cannot come to believe that that is a task the Audi can live up to?

Again I'm not arguing about "around a track", I am arguing about the statement that was made.. I full believe that the R8 would win around a complex or even only semi-complex track any day.

I'm not arguing because the Corvette is an American car or because I am a "Corvette Fan" , I hate the 🤬 things.. I just don't like seeing incorrect statements being made with out research.

 

[Kitten]

BTR

 

[Johnnypenso]

The R8 is the better car, possibly since the ZR6 has a pushrod V8 that makes it inferior to the R8.

It's inferior because PD programmed it that way. In real life the cars are almost identical on the track and the Vette's acceleration and 1/4 mile speeds are actually better.

....wall of text with real life information....

All wonderful information, but completely irrelevant as far as GT5 goes. The cars do what PD programs them to do. In real life both cars are pretty much identical in terms of lateral g's they are able to generate. If you look at this road test for example, the cars are 5/100ths apart in this track test:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/4217681

Note that the Vette accelerates better, has better braking, but slightly slower in the slalom. On GT5 they should be very, very close together but they are not because PD modelled it that way for whatever reason.

 

[jgancherjr]

It's inferior because PD programmed it that way. In real life the cars are almost identical on the track and the Vette's acceleration and 1/4 mile speeds are actually better.

Yeah but by what possible means can any of that be attributed to a the motor being a pushrod V8, making the corvette inferior? That's what set me off..

All wonderful information, but completely irrelevant as far as GT5 goes. On GT5 they should be very, very close together but they are not because PD modelled it that way for whatever reason.

Do you believe: Stock Audi vs. stock Z06 could win around a high speed track such as High Speed Ring or Monza (no chicane)?
That test was done at Streets of Willow Road Course which only has 2 low speed corners and one "sweeping" bend where the Audi has a handling advantage, The other two miles is essentially half an oval track and two high speed corners.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Yeah but by what possible means can any of that be attributed to a the motor being a pushrod V8, making the corvette inferior? That's what set me off..

Do you believe: Stock Audi vs. stock Z06 could win around a high speed track such as High Speed Ring or Monza (no chicane)?
That test was done at Streets of Willow Road Course which only has 2 low speed corners and one "sweeping" bend where the Audi has a handling advantage, The other two miles is essentially half an oval track and two high speed corners.

What I believe is irrelevant. In real life, there are tracks the Vette can keep pace with the R8. Not so much in the game however.

 

[GTV0819]

Lol. I don't understand why you sound like you're becoming pissed. But the Corvette still has the pushrod V8 engine, which is somewhat outdated already, IMHO.

Also, it seems I have heard some recalls about the Corvette before but that's a different story. Looks like the thread is going OT. Now BTT.

 

[jgancherjr]

some stuff..

go to your message wall. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=239326

 

[Johnnypenso]

Lol. I don't understand why you sound like you're becoming pissed. But the Corvette still has the pushrod V8 engine, which is somewhat outdated already, IMHO.

Also, it seems I have heard some recalls about the Corvette before but that's a different story. Looks like the thread is going OT. Now BTT.

You're assuming too much, it's the internet man, I don't get mad at letters on a screen Pushrod, hybrid, diesel, electric, magical fairy dust, it doesn't matter. All that matters is the torque and power curve and putting power to the ground.

 

[GTV0819]

You're assuming too much, it's the internet man, I don't get mad at letters on a screen Pushrod, hybrid, diesel, electric, magical fairy dust, it doesn't matter. All that matters is the torque and power curve and putting power to the ground.

It's not you. I was referring to jgancherjr's response. No offense meant in any way.

go to your message wall. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=239326

Now I don't know your problem. I was just stating my opinion about the Corvette and it's not my fault if you're affected by it. I thought we are friends before in the Hybrid thread.

 

[fbccars924]

C. Inferior Build quality of the rest of the car? I will not say inferior, but I will say cheaper.. Yes the Audi will be considerably nicer inside and out with better materials, I am sure if you placed them both in a junk yard and just let them sit there, over time the Corvette would wither away from the elements long before the Audi!

In all truth this is incorrect. The Fiberglass/plastic body and the Aluminum Frame unique to the ZR1 and Z06 models of the corvette would ensure no rust or long term damage to the car. The Corvette would actually last longer because despite using "outdated" materials compared to the R8, the processes of using said materials is much more refined than the processes of using carbon fiber, yes in principle they are the same. The Corvette, Z06 and ZR1, use an Aluminum block engine along with Titanium pistons yet again unique to the Z06 and ZR1 models. Just as well, I do realize the specs you posted were for the Z06 bear in mind ZR1 is still even faster than the Z06 and is still cheaper(though not by a whole lot) than the R8. Add on to the fact that the parts for the Corvette's engines are mass produced and are always readily available (nearly all LS parts are Interchangable aside from a few internals and heads) dollar for dollar the Corvette is a much better car with only the interior suffering from build quality issues.

 

[Johnnypenso]

...Corvette is a much better car with only the interior suffering from build quality issues.

Corvette is the best bang for the buck hands down, of any "supercar". I haven't been inside a 2014 but I'll bet the fit and finish are improved quite a bit.

 

[fbccars924]

^from reviews I have read and seen, No it hasn't. Although, Callaway has a Shoting Break hatch conversion for the C7 already.



On Topic: FR and AWD will always be a bit slower than a good driver in an MR. Nearly all the weight is where it needs to be, Right on the back tires which are where the weight always tries to transfer to during acceleration

 

[GTV0819]

It still uses an outdated pushrod V8, lol.