Best street legal car in GT5?

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Bigbazz
As for your rally car, what tyres did you use and did you modify it? These things make a massive difference, i ran everything on sports tyres. If I put racing tyres on any decent powered car it would beat the car times on my list just from tyre grip. Racing tyres are also not street legal.
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I already said what tyres I used.
I used a large turbo.
 
Moot
I already said what tyres I used.
I used a large turbo.
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Aye I missed that at first, too slow with the edit.


It is probably possible that the Nissan R390 Road car would compare favourably. It was built as a road car (though only 2 were made, comparable to the F1 LM, or F1 GTR), I think its fairgame to include the road versions of Le'mans cars, sadly I don't have any to test.
 
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Why not use the terms PD uses, they say "normal" car. Which excludes modified road cars which were not commercial available to the public from retail dealer showrooms.
That saves a lot of discussion , and can be proved by trying to enter it in one of GT5's seasonal events or whatever event has the "normal" car restriction.
"normal" has nothing to do with street legal, as so many race cars and most rally cars are road legal, the latter have to be for the road sections in-between stages.

A car I like using is the Lupo GTI Cup racing car. If you read the GT5 description on that is states it is a road legal car with registration plates.
 
Rally cars are not legal universally, I know that you cannot drive a WRC rally car around in the USA for example. The rally cars are legal during the events, but i'm pretty sure that you cannot register the car for everyday road use.

Its such a big grey area of confusion that again changes with country to country. at the end of the day a rally car is a racing car.
 
Rally cars are already registered for everyday road use, In the UK those are the rules if it's not road registered it not allowed to compete in rally events.
I agree it's a racing car, but that is not the discussion , the discussion was over street legal cars, which can be rally and racing cars.
Also the rally cars must pass emissions test, catalytic converters do not have to be fitted to road cars in the UK, they are not tested. It just happens they are "usually" required in order to have the right emissions. I have passed a police emissions test without any catalytic converters fitted.
Noise is not tested for UK cars.
But noise is tested in race/rally events. You have much louder road cars than racing cars here in the UK.
There is also a fair amount of difference on regulations over cars sold new, and then what cars can be once they are privately owned.
 
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You got that wrong, in BRC the cars have to be registered legally for road use in the UK, in WRC the cars are not registered for road use and not required to be registered legally for road use. Also, what is legal in the UK is not necessarily legal in other countries. A standard production street car would be legal on the road worldwide, a rally car legal in the UK would definitely not be.

From rallycars.com on WRC class cars

"The limited production numbers of WRC class cars reserves them solely to competition. No street legal, "homologation specials" are needed which means, of course, that you cannot buy one. Additionally works teams will not sell the latest evolution of their WRC class contender to a private rally team in the first year of the car's existence for obvious reasons. Starting from the second year of WRC class car's life, private teams can order WRC class models which are not as competitive or evolved as their works counterparts."
 
Bigbazz
You got that wrong, in BRC the cars have to be registered legally for road use in the UK, in WRC the cars are not registered for road use and not required to be registered legally for road use.

From rallycars.com on WRC class cars

"The limited production numbers of WRC class cars reserves them solely to competition. No street legal, "homologation specials" are needed which means, of course, that you cannot buy one. Additionally works teams will not sell the latest evolution of their WRC class contender to a private rally team in the first year of the car's existence for obvious reasons. Starting from the second year of WRC class car's life, private teams can order WRC class models which are not as competitive or evolved as their works counterparts."
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That quote does not state they are not road/street legal. It might just be saying no normal road versions are needed to be sold to conform to regs, the WRC cars are likely to be road legal and road registered.
 
Moot
That quote does not state they are not road/street legal. It might just be saying no normal road versions are needed to be sold to conform to regs, the WRC cars are likely to be road legal and road registered.
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What it means is that the WRC cars need not be street legal, and that they also do not need to create street legal versions in order to enter their car into the racing series (Like you would at Le Mans in GT1 for example)

It is one big massive grey area section.


If you're covering a fastest street legal car thread in a load of grey area works racing cars that may or may not be legal in some but definitely not all countries, then the thread really has nothing to do with street cars does it.
 
Here is a new Mini WRC car
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In the UK you can check vehicles plates on database to see if they have tax and registered, which means they are road legal.
Details for the photo, registration 2WRC
VEHICLE ENQUIRY Services Provided By DVLA: DVLA

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for 2 WRC are:

Date of Liability 01 04 2012
Date of First Registration 21 04 2011
Year of Manufacture 2011
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1600CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £118.25
12 Months Rate £215.00



The above Mini WRC car is taxed and road legal.
The emissions are rated at zero because it's a special engine and no information is provided to the authority. It just gets charged at a standard rate not based on emissions like older cars.

Website used:
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application?origin=vehicleEnquiryInfo_en.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.event&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry&portletid=VehicleEnquiry&portletns=VehicleEnquiry_en&wfevent=link.next
 
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We're just banging different gongs here, so lets just agree to disagree. I will say this.

You keep proving to me what I already know, that rally cars in the Uk are legal. I'm trying to point out that this is a global site and that for many people rally cars are not legal to drive on the roads of their countries, can you prove to me that rally cars are legal in the majority of the worlds countries?

I live in south wales, I grew up around rally, the final stage of every WRC championship is within a few miles of my old house and i grew up watching the WRC and Mintex Rallies. In the early 80s my dad drove and raced a rally spec mini in club level rallying, he also used it as a road car. My mothers best friends a couple that once rallied an Rs200, the wife was the co-driver, they also drove the car on the road.

But those cars weren't legal in other countries, you could not drive those things on the road in the USA, and to be honest i'd be massively surprised if they passed the current (of 2011) noise levels. Those rally cars were in a forest up a fricken mountain over a mile away and you could hear them inside your house.

Lastly, Rally cars are stripped out built to purpose racing machines, now sure if your talking about your 120bhp built in the home garage club efforts, its completely different from a works level group B rally car with 500bhp.

See in discussion like this, if such a rally car is now classed as road legal (which it is not, universally/globally) then you might aswell kick off the race modded and then highly modified road cars.

What you end up with is the, what is the fastest highly modified street legal (in some countries) car. Lets be honest, theres no real answer to that.
 
I quite like the rally cars, good fun really. As are their road car counterparts.

As for 'best' then I'd say the ZZII, Veyron (yes, it's good if you can put up with the catastrophic handling and spend a lot of time fine tuning, plus it has the straight line speed which helps, just don't expect wonders on a twisty track), Viper ACR, SLR, the R390 (I think that's the name, it's the Nissan everyone seems to have done the Time Trial with) and the McLaren F1. I'm sure there's more, that's just a few.
 
oze
The track was Grand Valley East. It favors a bit high top speed cars because of the long straight.

Constantly lapping under 58 seconds:
1. Nissan Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98
2. Cadillac CIEN Concept '02
3. Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept '01

And the rest that come very close in lap times:
4. Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '09
5. TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00
6. Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08
7. Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce '08
8. Nissan GT-R SpecV '09
9. McLaren F1 '94
10. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
11. Tommykaira ZZII '00
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Car problems (sorted by number)
1. only one car built as homoglation, not technically a production car
2. only a concept
3. same as 2
5. same as 2, only a few prototypes built
10. I dont belive that this is real
11. a concept car only
 
mrluckypants
Car problems (sorted by number)
1. only one car built as homoglation, not technically a production car
2. only a concept
3. same as 2
5. same as 2, only a few prototypes built
10. I dont belive that this is real
11. a concept car only
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I thought the ACR was a track car, hence the name ACR
American
Club
Racer
 
Guml8all
The Pagani Zonda R isn't street legal.

I think the Nissan GT-R is one of the best cars. It keeps up with cars 2-4 times the price, and it sounds great with a titanium exhaust!

Of course the BEST would be the Lamborghini's and the Ferrari's. These cars have the best reputation, look fantastic, sound even better, and have the price tag of an apartment...
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Umm ya it is, the R stands for Race ready. It's like the R35 GTR it goes into race mode only at race tracks but you can put it in rm your self but is street legal. License plate goes on front of car.
 
Aaronrray
I thought the ACR was a track car, hence the name ACR
American
Club
Racer
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The ACR is very much street legal and a production car. The fastest production car has to be the mclaren f1 because of all the downforce.
 
"Street legal car" should be considered a car that is/has been legal for street driving in the country it has been sold (or brought to use). Not all cars are legal in every country.

In my OP I talked about cars like:
Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - A Touge-racing purposed but street legal in Japan (was owned by Hideki Tanabe).
R390 GT1 Road Car - 2 were made and one has been driven legally on streets of Australia. Other on went straight to museum.
Tommy Kaira ZZII - Was a 90.000USD production car in Japan
Viper SRT10 ACR - Sold in US
Speed 12 - One was built as a street legal in UK. You can even find a video from Youtube where it is driven on the streets of London.
Cadillac Cien - One fully working, road going version has been built but might not be street legal anyway so you can cut this on out if you like...
W12 Nardo - Several Protos were built but probably not one street legal version.

So "production car" and "street legal" aren't the same thing. In my OP I was talking about the latter.

I think that RM or rally cars shouldn't be considered as street legal because they surely aren't. I still think that it's ok to do all other upgrades in GT Auto and they'll still be street legal cars. I know that slicks aren't allowed on roads but it's for the sake of better lap times in the game. :)

And yeah the Zonda R isn't street legal. I don't know why people keep thinking it as a street legal. There is the Zonda Cinque (not in this game) which is the street legal version of it.
 
Highly subjective but the Mclaren is probably one of the most drivable cars I've ever tried in GT5--practically cheating in corners.

458 is good but took a ton of banging around to make competitive for me.

Also I've never heard of Furai or Cien on the road.
 
Some of the Ferrari cars are quick and managable for street driving - short of their expensive cost, in terms of cost the Nissan GT-R is also good at an affordable price.
 
mrluckypants
Car problems (sorted by number)
1. only one car built as homoglation, not technically a production car
2. only a concept
3. same as 2
5. same as 2, only a few prototypes built
10. I dont belive that this is real
11. a concept car only
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To support oze claim that the Amuse S2000 GT1 actually exists, you don't have to google hard to find a photo of the actual car:

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oze
So "production car" and "street legal" aren't the same thing. In my OP I was talking about the latter.

I think that RM or rally cars shouldn't be considered as street legal because they surely aren't. I still think that it's ok to do all other upgrades in GT Auto and they'll still be street legal cars. I know that slicks aren't allowed on roads but it's for the sake of better lap times in the game. :)

And yeah the Zonda R isn't street legal. I don't know why people keep thinking it as a street legal. There is the Zonda Cinque (not in this game) which is the street legal version of it.
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All the World Rally Championship cars (including Group B etc) are Road Legal cars as IRL they need to drive from stage to stage on public roads. Most (if not all) of them have visible licence plates in GT5.
 

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