Hi everyone. I think that i am becoming addicted to the Nurburgring. Its a hell of a race track! Beautiful, huge, and unforgiving! Anywayz, i like to drive it with a CSL (no mods whatsoever, just TCS and ASM off, sport soft tyres). I've recently done a 7:55:007, and i'de like to your times with your CSL, just to see where i stand)) Cheers!
Best time on the Nurburgring using untampered M3 CSL?
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Hey that's pretty decent 👍
I did a 7min47.491sec in my standard M3 (straight off the dealer's floor to the 'Ring). TCS & ASM left at default, sport medium tyres. I was basically chasing the CSL Demo's time.
In my CSL I managed a lousy 7min38.880
running default TCS & ASM settings and sports mediums as well. Want to be at least 10sec faster than my M3's lap. But I'll keep at it...
With racing hards on the CSL I did an equally lousy 7min22.052 👎
I love the 'Ring. You should take the M3 GTR race car for a spin around the track. Absolutely stunning.
I did a 7min47.491sec in my standard M3 (straight off the dealer's floor to the 'Ring). TCS & ASM left at default, sport medium tyres. I was basically chasing the CSL Demo's time.
In my CSL I managed a lousy 7min38.880
running default TCS & ASM settings and sports mediums as well. Want to be at least 10sec faster than my M3's lap. But I'll keep at it...With racing hards on the CSL I did an equally lousy 7min22.052 👎
I love the 'Ring. You should take the M3 GTR race car for a spin around the track. Absolutely stunning.
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Just did the my first lap using the CSL with all driving aids off using the tires that came with the car when you buy it. Tire type: Sport F&R Medium(S2)
7'49.846
Now that I've done your challange can you do a lap in the Nurb using the RUF BRT '86.
Everything stock except turning off the TCS and ASM.
I average about 7'40 with my best being 7'38.
7'49.846
Now that I've done your challange can you do a lap in the Nurb using the RUF BRT '86.
Everything stock except turning off the TCS and ASM.
I average about 7'40 with my best being 7'38.
YZF: "Sport and Racing tyres sucks....real life rules (e.g. normal tyres)"
FYI the CSL comes standard with sports medium tyres in real life...michelin's, so real life in a CSL use sport mediums. M3 N2's
Also in real life nobody runs road tyres on the track as they overheat, chunk up and are stuffed within 3 laps or so, that's why we use a sport tyre like the Dunlop D01, Yokohama A032R, or the very expensive Michelin Precida R / Pirrelli P Zero Nero R that the CSL comes with from your BMW dealer
Hop ethat clears up a common misperception
PS respectable time BTW 👍
FYI the CSL comes standard with sports medium tyres in real life...michelin's, so real life in a CSL use sport mediums. M3 N2's
Also in real life nobody runs road tyres on the track as they overheat, chunk up and are stuffed within 3 laps or so, that's why we use a sport tyre like the Dunlop D01, Yokohama A032R, or the very expensive Michelin Precida R / Pirrelli P Zero Nero R that the CSL comes with from your BMW dealer
Hop ethat clears up a common misperception
PS respectable time BTW 👍
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I did 7.35'720 with stock CSL, every aids OFF, Sport medium tires, with a wheel, manual gearing.. It can do better, i haven't played with CSL recently, but i can cat off a couple of secconds for sure...
slammerYZF: "Sport and Racing tyres sucks....real life rules (e.g. normal tyres)"
FYI the CSL comes standard with sports medium tyres in real life...michelin's, so real life in a CSL use sport mediums. M3 N2's
Also in real life nobody runs road tyres on the track as they overheat, chunk up and are stuffed within 3 laps or so, that's why we use a sport tyre like the Dunlop D01, Yokohama A032R, or the very expensive Michelin Precida R / Pirrelli P Zero Nero R that the CSL comes with from your BMW dealer
Hop ethat clears up a common misperception
PS respectable time BTW 👍
And if you have GTR M3, you use slicks...thats true, but in the game we do only one lap (fast lap) and people usualy have normal tyres on their cars....so the performance is mostly accurate with N2....and drivers skill affects more...
OK, out of curiousity, i took stock CSL (all aids OFF) with sport/medium tyres and did first lap in 7.26.767
Going back to normal tyres....this time is too fast
P.S. I think that N2 tyres for CSL are not the same as N2 tyres for M3..i guess game automaticaly adjusts tyre performance and all those tyres that come in real life for certain cars when you buy them, they are named "normal" in the game.This name doesn't reflect tyre speed, it says what tyre is on the car...
Semi-racing ones are called "sport" and pure racing - "racing".
This is my theory, because you can't do 7.20+ with stock CSL in reality....no way.
Going back to normal tyres....this time is too fast
P.S. I think that N2 tyres for CSL are not the same as N2 tyres for M3..i guess game automaticaly adjusts tyre performance and all those tyres that come in real life for certain cars when you buy them, they are named "normal" in the game.This name doesn't reflect tyre speed, it says what tyre is on the car...
Semi-racing ones are called "sport" and pure racing - "racing".
This is my theory, because you can't do 7.20+ with stock CSL in reality....no way.
YZF...No that's real, except you don't have the FEAR OF DEATH in a computer game
IRL you do leave a margin for survival until tommorrow
My lap times on "Normal" tyres are 2 seconds slower on a 2 mile circuit, so expect N tyres to be about 20 seconds slower at Nurburgring
IRL ....I've run slicks and gone 2 seconds faster than my D01 "Sport" tyres, so I'm happy with the way GT4 has simulated real life. Except that you can hit a barrier and continue....now that doesn't happen IRL, though I wish it did,as it would have saved me buckets of money and several broken ribs and collar bones Not to mention the recovery time and those delectable nurses 👍
IRL you do leave a margin for survival until tommorrow
My lap times on "Normal" tyres are 2 seconds slower on a 2 mile circuit, so expect N tyres to be about 20 seconds slower at Nurburgring
IRL ....I've run slicks and gone 2 seconds faster than my D01 "Sport" tyres, so I'm happy with the way GT4 has simulated real life. Except that you can hit a barrier and continue....now that doesn't happen IRL, though I wish it did,as it would have saved me buckets of money and several broken ribs and collar bones
Not to mention the recovery time and those delectable nurses 👍slammerExcept that you can hit a barrier and continue....now that doesn't happen IRL, though I wish it did,as it would have saved me buckets of money and several broken ribs and collar bones
Would have been something. Had a little offroad experience myself. Was lucky and walked away, but was suddenly in need of a new car.
Will have a run with the CSL now.
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YZF
That is correct. The real CSL laps the ring in just under 8 minutes with a very, very good professional factory driver and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires. The regular M3 laps at just over 8:20.
7:20 is unrealistic, but you may get a little closer if the driver had a death wish, as every GT4 driver attacks this track. I would probarly have killed myself every 3rd lap if I drove like i do in GT4.
This track is scary as hell in the virtual world of GT4. Would only try this track in RL if the car i drove was very very slow. If GT4 had realistic damage, I would have had quite some nasty crashes.
Just did 7:40:738 on N3 tires.
Edit: 7:23:091 on S2 tires
This track is scary as hell in the virtual world of GT4. Would only try this track in RL if the car i drove was very very slow. If GT4 had realistic damage, I would have had quite some nasty crashes.
Just did 7:40:738 on N3 tires.
Edit: 7:23:091 on S2 tires
I always thought that the Tires Two grades down provided the most realistic lap times/experience.
So for an M3 CSL, N3's would be the "Real" tires.
I tested this with the BMW M3 GTR Racecar, I watched Hans Stuck do a 7'21 with traffic, figure he could have easily pulled a 7'00 flat without traffic, and driving like we do, a 6'50 doesn't seem out of the question.
With R1's (two grades worse) I can run a 6'44 riding like I've got a death wish.
my best M5 time was a 7'24, the CSL nips at the M5's heels, so I'd guess that on S2's I would run right about that...on N3's, Id say a 7'40 or so is very real, if it's lapped it at an 8'00 flat IRL.
20 seconds on the Ring is the difference between, say, lifting at Schwedenkruz cause you might die(IRL), and going through it flat out, drifting your back right tire into the grass and recovering just in time to brake for Aremburg(game).
So for an M3 CSL, N3's would be the "Real" tires.
I tested this with the BMW M3 GTR Racecar, I watched Hans Stuck do a 7'21 with traffic, figure he could have easily pulled a 7'00 flat without traffic, and driving like we do, a 6'50 doesn't seem out of the question.
With R1's (two grades worse) I can run a 6'44 riding like I've got a death wish.
my best M5 time was a 7'24, the CSL nips at the M5's heels, so I'd guess that on S2's I would run right about that...on N3's, Id say a 7'40 or so is very real, if it's lapped it at an 8'00 flat IRL.
20 seconds on the Ring is the difference between, say, lifting at Schwedenkruz cause you might die(IRL), and going through it flat out, drifting your back right tire into the grass and recovering just in time to brake for Aremburg(game).
DAMN! your all good! just tried it in my csl with n3's and no aids, and i could only manage 8.15.169. 
poor i know, but im a grip king (only using racing tyres), and have little experience of the normal tires. im not going to give up though, and i will try my damnest to get a sub 8.xx.xxx lap. 👍
i was surprised how well the car actually handled though, and i think my failings were down to the fact that i had not compensated enough for the lack of grip. i was attacking the corners like i was using qualifying tures.
this thread poses a great challenge, but i doubt i will get anywhere near the time on the gt4 demo. i will give it my best shot though!
poor i know, but im a grip king (only using racing tyres), and have little experience of the normal tires. im not going to give up though, and i will try my damnest to get a sub 8.xx.xxx lap. 👍i was surprised how well the car actually handled though, and i think my failings were down to the fact that i had not compensated enough for the lack of grip. i was attacking the corners like i was using qualifying tures.
this thread poses a great challenge, but i doubt i will get anywhere near the time on the gt4 demo. i will give it my best shot though!
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Just tried it with N2 tires and did a 8'05
Wow your times are incredible and N2 makes Gt4 a entire new game.
Going to have to N2 tires all the cars in the garage now.
Wow your times are incredible and N2 makes Gt4 a entire new game.
Going to have to N2 tires all the cars in the garage now.
YZF
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S2 tyres are the most life like for the CSL, as for your times being under what real life would be, just watch your replays, do you honestly think that YOU would be drifting the CSL at 120mph through some corners like you do in the game, get real. The CSL wears near semi slick tyres as standard (in England it is well known that the tyres are poor in the wet). Each to their own beliefs as to what you should use though I generally run with S2 on this car with no aids ever, when I ran N2s, I posted 8'04 with a couple of spins, in real life, I'd still be in the hospital now.
The tires two grades down have been shown by matching them up against real world times to be most accurate.
N2's are worse than real life tires.
N3's are "real" day to day tires.
S1-S3 are Road Slicks more or less.
For an example, Porsche's and Ruf's tend to come with very grippy tires, and going from the S3's they come with, to N2's is a ridiculous drop...going from S3's to S1's will let you duplicate Sideways Stephans lap in those Ruf CTR Yellowbird drifting video's though.
Oh, I got an 8'30 on N1's playing around trying to get it to drift...
I got drift...no smoke though...
Damn you DFP...my lap times are dropping like flies...but my drifting skills have gone to pot.
N2's are worse than real life tires.
N3's are "real" day to day tires.
S1-S3 are Road Slicks more or less.
For an example, Porsche's and Ruf's tend to come with very grippy tires, and going from the S3's they come with, to N2's is a ridiculous drop...going from S3's to S1's will let you duplicate Sideways Stephans lap in those Ruf CTR Yellowbird drifting video's though.
Oh, I got an 8'30 on N1's playing around trying to get it to drift...
I got drift...no smoke though...
Damn you DFP...my lap times are dropping like flies...but my drifting skills have gone to pot.
That's the idea.
N2's if you are pushing as hard as you can, will produce a lap time within seconds of a real life driver's cautious lap.
N3's if driven cautiously, will produce the real life cautious lap times, and if pushed hard, will show what the car is really capable of doing IRL.
N2's if you are pushing as hard as you can, will produce a lap time within seconds of a real life driver's cautious lap.
N3's if driven cautiously, will produce the real life cautious lap times, and if pushed hard, will show what the car is really capable of doing IRL.
Was fun to try to beat a challenge with a spesific car,track and tire. Should have been more of these treads, maybe even a own section.
I know there is the lap time table, but it`s not the same. Everybody seems to use 1000hp+ monsters to make 5:??,??? runs. I love stock street cars at nurburing on N3 tires.
I know there is the lap time table, but it`s not the same. Everybody seems to use 1000hp+ monsters to make 5:??,??? runs. I love stock street cars at nurburing on N3 tires.
