Better car makes Bob worse?

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I ran a race with B-Spec Bob and he placed 2 of 10.
I upgraded the car with an engine upgrade, sport suspension, and some weight reduction.
Ran the race again with the same driver (both times his arrow was blue and pointing up).
This time he got 8 of 10.
WTF?!
Anyone had this happen?
Any idea what would cause this?
 
You need to check what happend in the race, had the same problem but it was just the competition that pushed my driver out of the track and he lost 6 places because of that...
 
I actually dislike my driver as a person. I'd be inclined to shoot him in the face if i met him.
He is so bad at driving, it's unbelievable. He doesnt realise when he's oversteering or understeering and he trys to correct his slides waay too late and ends up skidding left and right until he spins. Or he just understeers onto the grass. He frustrates the hell out of me.
Theres no option for traction control either. Does your settings follow over to his?
 
I just completed the beginners series except yaris. I ran bob in the Italia fully modded in every event i could and he drives like a darn professional. I put him in the yaris and he can't take a turn without going off into the grass then sitting there until everybody gets ahead if him. So my experience has been the opposite. I even saw bob do one of the most beautiful drifts I have ever seen in the Ferrari.

I never really check his status (arrow thingy) i really don't give him any commands until he passes everybody then I just tell him to pace down. They never catch him but sometimes when he gets a little excited he likes to spin the tires out of the turns (who doesn't like doing that).
 
mc959
You need to check what happend in the race, had the same problem but it was just the competition that pushed my driver out of the track and he lost 6 places because of that...
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I actually coached him through the race. The idiot brakes WAY too early for corners. He will gain one position on the straight and then lose two in the corner. :grumpy:
 
Ahhhh give poor bob a break. We probably all drove like that when we first started. But i get your frustration when he is in the yaris and basically pulls over for everybody to pass. I yell at him a little.

jonathansp
I actually dislike my driver as a person. I'd be inclined to shoot him in the face if i met him.
He is so bad at driving, it's unbelievable. He doesnt realise when he's oversteering or understeering and he trys to correct his slides waay too late and ends up skidding left and right until he spins. Or he just understeers onto the grass. He frustrates the hell out of me.
Theres no option for traction control either. Does your settings follow over to his?
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My Bob, I'm sure, is an 86 year old woman. It's the only way I can explain why else he'd want to brake on the straights at Daytona and allow other trucks to pass him on the sport truck race, 11th place after 6 laps when he had a pretty heavily tuned Dodge Ram! Currently watching the back of 9 other Mini Cooper S's going round Madrid... Yet give him a proper car and he'll fly, just. I think I'll do the GT World Championship (if I get that far) in the 88C-V, to give him a fighting chance.
 
I have noticed he TOTALLY sucks when in my Special '62 unless there are big straights where 857bhp play a good part of him winning.

When I gave him my FULLY modded Italia WOW he was awesome. I can't figure really cuz also when I gave him my 250bhp MX5 he still did great. He doesn't like muscle cars I guess? With it he is so pathetic that at FR challenge he finishes last spot now, was going up to 5 when he was 4 levels lower.


Some very weird unexplained facts occur with B-Spec, well at least I got my furay :D
 
If he is braking too early in the corner, then maybe try telling him to pace up as he nears the end of the straight.

Mine takes the corners too fast, so for me it is the opposite and I end up having him pace down near the end of the straight. Hope it helps.

Regards
 
I picked R .Visser as my first B-Spec Bob

first Car i gave him for the Sunday Cup was a Tuned Mclaren MP4 , he slaughtered the Field :D

He is the Cool Character Type not the hot headed one

His physical strength is somewhat lacking but he has great Mental Strength

So far he has 66 Wins in 71 Races and he is at Level 15 .
 
Son of a bitch!
I just fully modded out my car (over $150K into a $20K vehicle).
I'm running the Japanese Classic races in the Beginner division, which is a Level 2 race.
Bob has already Golded every other event in Beginner, every event in amateur, and several in professional.
He is a level 14 for God's sake.
So I put him back out there with the full modded car and he gets the lead by the end of lap two. And he keeps the lead until the very last corner, where he lets two people pass him simply because he was braking so early. I told him to over take as he was exiting the corner onto the final straight. He managed to catch one, but ended up in second place.
So now I'm back to where he was finishing with only a couple mods, and I've dumped $150K into a car I will never drive.
He must just hate the Japanese Classics!
I'm off to see if one of my other drivers fairs any better.
 
BKViper
And he keeps the lead until the very last corner, where he lets two people pass him simply because he was braking so early.
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Even a good, high level driver will have this problem if you let the "stress" bar get all the way to the blue side. They get complacent and drive so conservatively that the rest of the field can catch up.
 
BKViper
he was braking so early.
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My tactic so far has been:
1. Give Bob a massively overpowered car so he can get in the lead fairly early.
2. Ignore Bob for the entire race, until
3. On the last lap, check to make sure he's got enough time between him and the car behind. If not, tell him to hurry up and he'll pull his finger out enough to keep them at bay and not gain ground on him.

Of course, if your car is powerful enough he'll still gain ground on them even when fully chilling. I find it helps if you use the live timing screen (second button on the left of the B-Spec screen) and watch the Gap part, if that starts to fall then you need to tell him to hurry up.

It does suck that his AI is so terminally stupid that you have to give him the best car you can enter into the race, but that's just how it is (unless my driver is particularly bad).


Edit: in response to your first post, one reason for your driver placing lower than before could simply be his opposition; In the Ferrari race (on A-Spec, though) I entered a fairly modified 458 and came 3rd, because there were two Enzos in 1st and 3rd place. I tried again and came first because there was only one Enzo and it started behind me. B-Spec strikes me as being even more susceptible to this, because if you can get in the lead early on you're pretty much set as long as you keep him calm but not too calm, but if there's a faster car in front it'll be harder to keep him cool and even harder for him to pass it.
 
I gave my driver an FTO my mate sent me. He'd tuned the nuts out of it. D. West (my dude) crashed and tried reversing. I've never seen someone do so many reverse donuts!!

After that, I gave him back the Skyline I bought specifically for him, DESTROYED everyone. I'm talking lapping opponents destroyed.
 
A good advice. If you want the easiest levelling for your Bob just give him a good muscle car 700hp+ and let him run Muscle car challenge at amateur with 1 race at Imola. He will win it 100% with no intervention needed. I just go put him race and i go watch tv or surf the web when I come back he ALWAYS win, for the reference I use a Special '62 857bhp. If he is low level he WILL still win and you get a level for each race :D.
 
Get bob in a strong car and do european hatchback. Levelled bob number 5 from o to lvl4 in one race. All my other bobs went threw this step. At lvl 9 i took bob no5 called eisenhower huhu needed to have him. Gave him my furai, no it wasnt new, this car took the whole punishement from all my bobs ( no use to repaire it, way to expensive) it got something around 505 hp left and yes it is fully moded huhuhu
Sent em through gt allstars polyphony cup japanese cup and the tuned cars. Cup and there he is lvl 18. The knly prob they all have is overtakin, sometimes i think if Eisenhower would have done the same choices back then eisenhower bob makes very often, there probably would be a Svastika on top of the capitol huhubu
 
I think everyone is looking at Bob the wrong way. He is a rookie driver, for all I know someone they dragged off the autocross track. You put me in a 500hp car on a race track and I'm going to spin it, wall it and various other things to it. The expectation that it is going to drive at the same level of you is flawed IMO. I put mine in a car that matches the field, he drives at the level of the rest of the field and I manage him through the course. And train him up.

What I'm curious about is, does my control of him effect his stats. If I could create identical drivers and gave one orders, a regular car and trained him and the other just a super powered car. Would they be the same driver at level 20?
 
Too much power and Bob can't drive unless you tell him to take it easy. I learned this very early by letting him drive my 700+hp McLaren
 
I can't win the Ferrari challenge with Bob on Monza, i use a fully tuned 458 italia, and he always gets passed by the Enzo by the 3rd/4th lap, i tried adjusting the downforce, no success, what a dumbass..

He's level 17...
 
MY driver gets too excited too fast, within 20 seconds he'll be at max(and he starts near the middle). And if I don't get him in first by the first 2 corners I have to keep telling him to slow down so game over. He's pretty good at recovering but he purposely stays on the gas too long coming out of slow
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That's what I wonder. I'm doing b spec to mostly get the free cars and money so i am putting him in the car that will get it done as quickly as possible like the Italia but I wonder if he will not be prepared when I get to the high levels such as extreme because he never really had to fight for the lead.

It is nice that he does the work while i lay on the couch browsing this site on my iPad looking over every once in awhile to make sure he is still in the lead.I just wish e races weren't so long.

VillageBC
I think everyone is looking at Bob the wrong way. He is a rookie driver, for all I know someone they dragged off the autocross track. You put me in a 500hp car on a race track and I'm going to spin it, wall it and various other things to it. The expectation that it is going to drive at the same level of you is flawed IMO. I put mine in a car that matches the field, he drives at the level of the rest of the field and I manage him through the course. And train him up.

What I'm curious about is, does my control of him effect his stats. If I could create identical drivers and gave one orders, a regular car and trained him and the other just a super powered car. Would they be the same driver at level 20?
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That's what I wonder. I'm doing b spec to mostly get the free cars and money so i am putting him in the car that will get it done as quickly as possible like the Italia but I wonder if he will not be prepared when I get to the high levels such as extreme because he never really had to fight for the lead.

It is nice that he does the work while i lay on the couch browsing this site on my iPad looking over every once in awhile to make sure he is still in the lead.I just wish e races weren't so long.

VillageBC
I think everyone is looking at Bob the wrong way. He is a rookie driver, for all I know someone they dragged off the autocross track. You put me in a 500hp car on a race track and I'm going to spin it, wall it and various other things to it. The expectation that it is going to drive at the same level of you is flawed IMO. I put mine in a car that matches the field, he drives at the level of the rest of the field and I manage him through the course. And train him up.

What I'm curious about is, does my control of him effect his stats. If I could create identical drivers and gave one orders, a regular car and trained him and the other just a super powered car. Would they be the same driver at level 20?
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