Birth Control, odds?

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sicbeing
To be more clear, my question is, while she is on the pill mind you, does pulling out before I come decrease the chance of having babies, or does it matter?
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Must've missed Gil's reply.
Gil
As for "pulling out" know that almost all men produce a pre-ejaculate that dribbles out during intercourse. It is not as sperm rich as semen, but does contain indeed contain sperm.
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He speaks the truth.
Slap on a rubber!

I mean... by the numbers, I suppose less sperm = less risk... but one slip of concentration or anything like that and you could be wishing you listened to those insightful guys on GTP. ;)




sicbeing
I have had one time, where we were drunk, and I finished with a condom on before pulling out, and we kept going, and the condom came off when I removed myself. We freaked out, sobered up, went to the 24 hour walgreens, and got the morning after pill. Scariest night of my life. Learned a lesson too.
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...by my reckoning, the jury is still out on that one.
 
Less sperm in her = less chance of conception, so, yes. And wear a condom before you catch aeroaids.
 
Matt R
I think it's quite obvious you can't take it off while in her.

What is so crucial about taking a condom off? I'm konfused.
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sicbeing
I have had one time, where we were drunk, and I finished with a condom on before pulling out, and we kept going, and the condom came off when I removed myself.
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Zing.

Barrier methods are only good so long as the barrier is maintained.

sicbeing
Well to be honest I don't know how this turned into a "how to take condoms off" debate, I don't use them.

We use the pill, and I pull out before I finish. I don't mean I pull out after I finish, or after I finish with a condom on, I'm saying I pull out before I am finished.

I hate to get really graphics about it but I think I was misunderstood.
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Not at all, but the operation of contraception is not reliant upon your withdrawal. It's an additional help, perhaps, but condoms are 99% effective (so long as the barrier is maintained) without it. The Pill is nearly 100% effective (so long as it's taken correctly and there are no other medical issues - it can be hindered by illness or other drugs and even herbal remedies like St. John's Wort) without it. Withdrawal looks quite unreliable alongside those but, if it gives you peace of mind to do that also, feel free to.
 
Withdrawal = teh suck. :lol:

But condoms are the same... or worse... it's like spraying on topical anesthesia before sex.

I guess we must be doing something right... a combination of withdrawal and rhythm... only time we've ever conceived (in twelve years) was when we consciously wanted to (and it only took a month to do it).

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(Double-take) Rhythm kills embryos? That's a laugh. Without empirical evidence, you cannot assume that the rhythm method creates feeble embryos... although I do believe that the Catholic stance on artificial contraception is criminally naive.
 
Back in the day, we used both condoms and birth control.

I recommend using multiple forms of birth control, so if you screw one up you're still theoretically covered. Screwed up the pill? No problem. Screwed up the condom? no problem. Just don't mess both of them up at the same time.

I find that condoms are great for a few things. They help you last long enough to ensure multiple climaxes for her. Then, since those things are awful, you can find alternative (superior) methods of fulfilling your end of the bargain.

Keep in mind that the only thing preventing you from getting AIDS is the condom... and you're still open to other STDs.
 
Would you believe that I've learned about 32 things from this thread already? Keep talking guys, I'm taking notes.
 
Omnis
Less sperm in her = less chance of conception, so, yes. And wear a condom before you catch aeroaids.
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Only one little guy has to get in. And, as an ounce of semen has about a billion sperm, a tenth of an ounce of pre ejaculate would have 'only' about a million or so sperm.
Yes, it is not as forcefully delivered, nor as far up the birth canal, but sperm live a long time. And in that time can swim quite far...

All I can say is "do the math":
a million sperm
Birth canal maybe 8 inches max (from labia) more likely 1-2 inches to the cervix from the tip of papa's urethra.
Sperm can swim about a quarter inch an hour or more.
They can live for several days.
So a million sperm cover about an inch every 4 hours.
Living for several days with ability to cover about 6 inches in a day...
And, remember, this is the math without actual ejaculation.
 
Gil
Birth canal maybe 8 inches max (from labia) more likely 1-2 inches to the cervix from the tip of papa's urethra.
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Less if you happen to be blessed. :p

One think I've always wondered was that if the product was 99% effective, does that mean that one time out of a hundred you should end up pregnant? That doesn't seem right at all (based on experience).

Or is that supposed to be interpreted as "this doesn't work well for 1 person in 100", in which case the odds are way better after it's established that it's working. I've always had some trouble interpreting those odds.
 
You can always be like that crazy German man who cut his penis off and threw it at German SWAT. :lol:

Just have your boyfriend wear a condom, it's just reassurance you don't get pregnant.


Cheers!
 
Danoff
I find that condoms are great for a few things. They help you last long enough to ensure multiple climaxes for her. Then, since those things are awful, you can find alternative (superior) methods of fulfilling your end of the bargain.
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TMI warning.

One year ago I would have agreed with you on this note. I used to use the super thick ultra climax control condoms, the ones where you basically felt nothing. I went through along phase of trying condoms for my own climax control. The thin ones I would go too soon, and the thick ones I couldn't barely maintain an erection because I felt nothing but sticky rubber.

Recently though with my new partner, we use the pill and no condom. What I've come to learn is, if I go ahead and climax, then ressurect after 15 minutes, I can last as long as it's need until she reaches her climax, then I can reach mine again, and repeat until we are both too tired to continue.

My last GF's, I could make them climax one out of maybe 50 times trying with a condom, but with my recent GF without using a condom, there hasn't been a time where she hasn't hit peak point at least twice in one night.
 
sicbeing
TMI warning.

One year ago I would have agreed with you on this note. I used to use the super thick ultra climax control condoms, the ones where you basically felt nothing. I went through along phase of trying condoms for my own climax control. The thin ones I would go too soon, and the thick ones I couldn't barely maintain an erection because I felt nothing but sticky rubber.

Recently though with my new partner, we use the pill and no condom. What I've come to learn is, if I go ahead and climax, then ressurect after 15 minutes, I can last as long as it's need until she reaches her climax, then I can reach mine again, and repeat until we are both too tired to continue.

My last GF's, I could make them climax one out of maybe 50 times trying with a condom, but with my recent GF without using a condom, there hasn't been a time where she hasn't hit peak point at least twice in one night.
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Doesn't count unless you produce a photo with your user name written on her chest and a can of peaches in the background propping up that day's newspaper............Then again, maybe not. :D
 
Famine
... or at least that's what she tells you...
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And considering that something like only 20% of women can have an orgasm via intercourse alone, quite a few women are telling quite a few stories, based on a survey of internet message board sex stories written by men.

But we've drifted pretty far off-topic at this point.
 
Duke
And considering that something like only 20% of women can have an orgasm via intercourse alone
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That’s terrible, you men should all be ashamed of yourselves! It’s really not that hard if you know what you’re doing. Do you not know how to preheat the oven before you put the meat in?
 
UnoMOTO
That’s terrible, you men should all be ashamed of yourselves! It’s really not that hard if you know what you’re doing. Do you not know how to preheat the oven before you put the meat in?
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I prefere to use the microwave personally - make of that what you will ;)
 
Famine
... or at least that's what she tells you..
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UnoMOTO
That’s terrible, you men should all be ashamed of yourselves! It’s really not that hard if you know what you’re doing. Do you not know how to preheat the oven before you put the meat in?
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That's worth pointing out. And by peak point I don't exactly means she has a big orgasm, but she does come.
 
sicbeing
What are the odds of birth control to really prevent pregnancy? I wonder that when I read the manual that comes with the pills, is it assuming I pull out? Or is it assuming I don't?

If I remember right, on the back of a box of condoms, it doesnt garantee 100% anything, when used correctly. What does that mean? Does it mean pull out? or it doesnt matter?

Basically, do the odds that go on the back of condom boxes, the odds that come with the papers with birth control, or etc, assume that you pull out? or do they assume you dont?

Not trying to be perverted or nasty on these boards, its actually a serious question.
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SwitchFX
Just have your boyfriend wear a condom, it's just reassurance you don't get pregnant.
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So if sicbeing's boyfriend wears a condom, sicbeing won't get pregnant? Or will his boyfriend not get pregnant? I'm not sure I'm following you.
 
I don’t think sicbeing can get pregnant, and I also don’t think sicbeing has a boyfriend.

You people are funny.
 
Danoff
Less if you happen to be blessed. :p
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But not everyone is...:D:
Some of us are "Dirty Harry" (Mod. 29), Some are Inspector Erskine (FBI) (Mod 36, Chief's Special)
For those that don't understand: Check Smith & Wesson model numbers.

Besides, I was just trying to show how easy it is to become a parent, if no form of barrier protection is used.

Also, don't touch her the second week after her cycle ends, if she cycles regularly.
If she doesn't cycle regularly, don thy raincoat faithfully, and consider a diaphagm as well.
 
Gil
Besides, I was just trying to show how easy it is to become a parent, if no form of barrier protection is used.
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Indeed. Although we never had an unintentional pregnancy, it happened right quick when we were trying. Both times after finding she was pregnant, we got the shakes when we realized how lucky we had been when we were not ready for kids.
Also, don't touch her the second week after her cycle ends, if she cycles regularly. If she doesn't cycle regularly, don thy raincoat faithfully, and consider a diaphagm as well.
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QFT.
 

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