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I'm the beginner in GTS (DR D/ SR S) and thus I'm aware my lap times are average and racing line not perfect. But I'm doing my best trying to prepare to all online races (daily one) hotlapping like crazy until I'm at least consistent.

However in nearly all races there are at least one or two players chasing me and blinking lights, like they'd like to tell me "get out of my way, I'm faster, you have to let me pass". Unfortunately it's often ends with some bumping or squeezing out of the corner.

As I wrote my racing line is not perfect but it's fair, and what's more important I've never tried to intentionally block any faster players’ attempt to overtake.

Do they really think I'm obliged to give them safe way? Or it's it me misunderstanding any rules of road?

(Of course I don't mention multiclass races that GTS lacks).
 
If you're not being lapped, then you don't have to move over.

There are a lot of players out there who constantly flash their lights to put you off your stride. It's childish!

Ignore them, as the majority will eventually fall off the track, and you'll pull away from them.
 
Yes they are just trying to put you off if they are doing it constantly.
 
Could be a DS4 user chasing you. When I used my DS4 before switching to a wheel I unintentionally pressed down on the L3 stick a lot as these races tend to get a little intense. This would flash the lights repeatedly.

Keep in mind, some people flash their lights to be a distraction to the driver in front of them hoping they'll wreck themselves off.
 
Put a bit of tape over the mirror, that will help you concentrate on the apex :)

I guess some people drive with L3 pressed down. It's hilarious to see someone go into the sand pit behind you while furiously blinking their lights. always makes me think of that moment when the lights go out as the Titanic sinks. rip.
 
Flashing just once is more than enough, If they do it constantly just to try to put you off brake check them, That's what I do, It seems to stop them from being such massive tools.
 
i noticed something strange, a while back someone posted a replay where i was in, and my lights where also flashing very often or it looked like it in the mirror, and i know for sure i didn`t do that.
i use a wheel so it can`t be an accident, maybe some rendering issue`s, or bug or some kind of game mechanic?
 
With the DS4 if you down on the steering stick it flashes high beams, correct? I know quite often when I check my mirror the guys behind me are flashing their lights, even when not close, just looks hilarious!!!!. If they are flashing their lights and its for position I make my car as wide as possible.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously though, i have and will give up spots for position without a fight if the guy behind is obviously faster than me. The way I see it it does no good to fight because you will ultimately be slower and it may very end up with the slower spinning or going into the bunker. 2 things I have noticed is that PD really builds a lot of advantage into the DS4 compared to wheels because you see some who's front ends are hunting left and right even on the straights yet I cant gain on them by being smooth with the wheel and they really need to slow cars down more for going into the grass and hitting walls. I went through a corner with a car side by side at the exact same speed, I was on the inside, other guy outside and he didnt get slowed down at all for having 2 wheels in the grass. How many times have you guys raced at Blue Moon and guy in front is like 1.5 seconds ahead and you see a shower of sparks from him grinding his car away on the wall yet you barely knocked the gap down?
 
fastone371
With the DS4 if you down on the steering stick it flashes high beams, correct? I know quite often when I check my mirror the guys behind me are flashing their lights, even when not close, just looks hilarious!!!!. If they are flashing their lights and its for position I make my car as wide as possible.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously though, i have and will give up spots for position without a fight if the guy behind is obviously faster than me. The way I see it it does no good to fight because you will ultimately be slower and it may very end up with the slower spinning or going into the bunker. 2 things I have noticed is that PD really builds a lot of advantage into the DS4 compared to wheels because you see some who's front ends are hunting left and right even on the straights yet I cant gain on them by being smooth with the wheel and they really need to slow cars down more for going into the grass and hitting walls. I went through a corner with a car side by side at the exact same speed, I was on the inside, other guy outside and he didnt get slowed down at all for having 2 wheels in the grass. How many times have you guys raced at Blue Moon and guy in front is like 1.5 seconds ahead and you see a shower of sparks from him grinding his car away on the wall yet you barely knocked the gap down?
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Needless to say, with nowadays penalty system I'm not brave enough to try to overtake DS4 player shaking left and right unpredictably
 
Waldorf
Needless to say, with nowadays penalty system I'm not brave enough to try to overtake DS4 player shaking left and right unpredictably
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Right??? A DS4 player with a hunting nose is the best defense in GT Sport, Im afraid to try to pass them as well. It also makes it really hard for to drive fast behind them because their car moves around so much. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
fastone371
With the DS4 if you down on the steering stick it flashes high beams, correct? I know quite often when I check my mirror the guys behind me are flashing their lights, even when not close, just looks hilarious!!!!. If they are flashing their lights and its for position I make my car as wide as possible.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously though, i have and will give up spots for position without a fight if the guy behind is obviously faster than me. The way I see it it does no good to fight because you will ultimately be slower and it may very end up with the slower spinning or going into the bunker. 2 things I have noticed is that PD really builds a lot of advantage into the DS4 compared to wheels because you see some who's front ends are hunting left and right even on the straights yet I cant gain on them by being smooth with the wheel and they really need to slow cars down more for going into the grass and hitting walls. I went through a corner with a car side by side at the exact same speed, I was on the inside, other guy outside and he didnt get slowed down at all for having 2 wheels in the grass. How many times have you guys raced at Blue Moon and guy in front is like 1.5 seconds ahead and you see a shower of sparks from him grinding his car away on the wall yet you barely knocked the gap down?
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It's more likely the result of lag that makes it look like their car is driving erratically. They are not really grinding the wall on their side, yet with lag applied their car is further out scraping the wall on your screen. It;s very annoying. You think oh he made a mistake I can overtake, then the car suddenly makes an impossible move back onto the track right in front of you.

I do agree that grass isn't slowing cars down enough, yet perhaps the ground is really hard and flat.

3 bar or less connections are hard to overtake, no matter if it's a wheel or DS4 user. The cars just move weird. I play with a DS4 as well and have been asked before what wheel I use. You can drive very smooth with DS4!
 
ghostrider135
But they shouldn't really be trying to use such unsporting tactics to try to make a driver have an off. They get what they deserve.
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They might be DS4 users who can't help it. They may be intentionally doing it, but give them the benefit of the doubt
And if you notice it so much that you get frustrated enough to brake check them, I think you should review where your eyes should be 90% of the time
Two wrongs do not make a right
 
Alpha Cipher
They might be DS4 users who can't help it. They may be intentionally doing it, but give them the benefit of the doubt
And if you notice it so much that you get frustrated enough to brake check them, I think you should review where your eyes should be 90% of the time
Two wrongs do not make a right
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As a DS4 user myself, Due to not physically being able to use a wheel I can tell with certainty when its an accident or not, I believe its good to be putting some attention in your mirrors atleast to be aware of faster cars so you can let them pass cleanly.
 
ghostrider135
As a DS4 user myself, Due to not physically being able to use a wheel I can tell with certainty when its an accident or not, I believe its good to be putting some attention in your mirrors atleast to be aware of faster cars so you can let them pass cleanly.
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I do believe the same, that's why I said 90% and not 100%
Even if you do know whether it's accidental or not, it doesn't mean it gives you the right to brake-check. Flashing lights is unsportsman-like, but it doesn't give you the right to be unsportsman-like as well. Honestly, if you spin out because of it, you only have yourself to blame. It's not all different from making an opponent miss their braking point because you've feinted that you're going to make a move on the inside. Only difference there is that the latter is sportsmanlike.
 
Just ignore idiots who use lights in that fashion. They have no right to your position that way. Focus more on racing and less in the rear view and you won't have to see their 🤬 sensory light show.
 
I might be a massive tool myself, but I use my lights to indicate to a car in front of me that I'm about to attempt a pass. Usually this happens if I've had a better exit out of a corner or if my car simply is faster in a straight line. In my experience from watching sportscar racing (WEC, Blancpain), flashing lights to stress the driver in front is a legitimate strategy, but the number of flashes per lap is limited. I might be completely mistaken, but I see the flashing of lights as a part of the game that can be used the same way they are used in real life.
 
I hardly ever use flashing lights in a normal race. Only time I’ve used flashing lights is during Track day lobbies when I’m in a car much faster than what’s in front of me.
 
dUKEster
I might be a massive tool myself, but I use my lights to indicate to a car in front of me that I'm about to attempt a pass. Usually this happens if I've had a better exit out of a corner or if my car simply is faster in a straight line. In my experience from watching sportscar racing (WEC, Blancpain), flashing lights to stress the driver in front is a legitimate strategy, but the number of flashes per lap is limited. I might be completely mistaken, but I see the flashing of lights as a part of the game that can be used the same way they are used in real life.
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I never heard of regulations about using light flashes strategically
Do you have a source? I'm interested
 
dUKEster
I might be a massive tool myself, but I use my lights to indicate to a car in front of me that I'm about to attempt a pass. Usually this happens if I've had a better exit out of a corner or if my car simply is faster in a straight line. In my experience from watching sportscar racing (WEC, Blancpain), flashing lights to stress the driver in front is a legitimate strategy, but the number of flashes per lap is limited. I might be completely mistaken, but I see the flashing of lights as a part of the game that can be used the same way they are used in real life.
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As far as I am concerned that's the way lights should be used. Driver attempting to overtake may warn the driver in the front, who is than able to (i) prepare to defend (being aware of a nearby attacker), or (ii) give a free way (eg. moving closer to the track side and even additionally - as I'm trying to do - show the free way with turn-signal indicator.

This is however used mainly in multi class races, when lower classes are not able to defend their positions anyway. In GTS, especially with BoP on, I find it to be rather a "good practice", since cars are equal and only drivers skills differ.
 
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ghostrider135
Flashing just once is more than enough, If they do it constantly just to try to put you off brake check them, That's what I do, It seems to stop them from being such massive tools.
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I would suggest the only "massive tool" is the one doing the brake checking. Light flashing happens in virtually all disciplines of racing and is totally accepted within the rules. Brake checking on the other hand is not and would highlight you as an amature who can't take a bit of psychological pressure and would result in at least a drive through penalty but most likely a one race ban and licence points.
If anyone brake checked me I wouldn't hesitate to report them for race interference.
 
I flash my lights sometimes as well to set people off. I dont think it is unsportsmanlike, drivers do it all the time in real life. If your bothered by it then that is an aspect of racecraft you need to learn to not get distracted by it. A single flash right before braking point can be very effective on some drivers, especially in the dark. Watch them miss their apex and fly by easy on the straight.
 
The only time I flash my lights is when I'm passing somebody in FIA qualifying (who's going slow) or I feel somebody just unfairly blocked me (weaving), both of that happens very rarely.

However, when I used to drive with a DS4, I was constantly accidentally flashing my lights through corners.
 
..sometimes I hit the R2/L2 button on my wheel without realizing it and when I watch the replay I have my turn signals on for most of the race! :lol:

But yeah - when I played with my DS4, I would watch the replays and I would be constantly flashing people. Maybe that is why a bunch of them brake checked me!
 
Sean Renon
The only time I flash my lights is when I'm passing somebody in FIA qualifying (who's going slow) or I feel somebody just unfairly blocked me (weaving), both of that happens very rarely.

However, when I used to drive with a DS4, I was constantly accidentally flashing my lights through corners.
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If you get players to give you room in FIA qualy you are doing better than me. Maybe because Im B/S, (B/A at the moment, I raced at Monza last night) but everyone treats qualy like a race and wont let you by easy, even if they are recovering from a spin. Last week qualy was so bad and I was so frustrated I knocked over all the braking cones in case others were using them to try to prevent any other faster laps. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
fastone371
If you get players to give you room in FIA qualy you are doing better than me. Maybe because Im B/S, (B/A at the moment, I raced at Monza last night) but everyone treats qualy like a race and wont let you by easy, even if they are recovering from a spin. Last week qualy was so bad and I was so frustrated I knocked over all the braking cones in case others were using them to try to prevent any other faster laps. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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That is like the most petty thing I've read in awhile - but at the same time kind've hilarious.
Tuesday's race on Brands Hatch GP for me, all of the distance signs ended up being wiped out over the course of the race - made the last 5 laps interesting to say the least.

Also, Monza is a ****fest, even at the highest level.
 

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