Blu-ray to be near the cost of a DVD..

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I read this at ps3updates.com here is a part of it:

The new technique improves the use of resin which is applied to form a protective coating on the disc surface, a step in the manufacturing process responsible for Blu-Ray discs’ high production costs. Matsu****a will use trial manufacturing lines in their American labs to accumulate manufacturing knowledge, with the prospect that in only one year from now, Blu-Ray disk mass production will be possible at almost the same costs as current DVD mass production.
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This would reduce the cost of the product too. Movies were rumored to be $30-50. Now it may be $20-30. This is great news for the porn industry. Movie Studios will like this too and it should pretty much be the end of HD-DVD, heck it already has been delayed into 2006.

Remeber Sega CD games used anywhere from 50mb to 300mb, less than half of a full cd. Elder scolls IV uses half the dvd for audio alone. On another note DOA4' maker Tomonobu Itagak said that Xbox 360's DVD roms will be filled quickly since he wants to use HD pre-rendered movies (remember the horrible screen switching in GT4 when using 1080i mode?)
 
This is good news, though I was willing to pay upwards of £40 for a BD-ROM film. It may also mean that PS3 games will make it onto BD-ROM sooner.
It was a mistake by Microsoft (though an unavoidable one as no HD drives were ready for the launch of the 360) not to have HD-DVD ROM. Still, maybe it won't come back to bite them?
 
The drive wasnt the mistake, the early realease was. Come on Microsoft, the Xbox is at least twice as powerfull as ps2.
 
What?

:lol:


Anyway, good news about the BD progress.
 
One of the first Blu-Ray ads:

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In case you guys don't follow the BD news like I do, here's what you missed in the past ten days, or so.


Oct 5, 2005 - Panasonic to Release Blu-ray Drives and Media for PCs Next Spring

Panasonic today announced that the company will introduce Blu-ray Disc drives for notebook and desktop computers along with 25GB and 50GB BD-R/BD-RE media by spring 2006. The notebook drive uses Panasonic's own laminated glass plate prism technology that enables the reduction in size of the optical pickup to one-twelfth (1/12) of the size of conventional pickups. Panasonic plans to ship samples of their BD drive for notebook PCs by the end of this year and commence commercial production by March 2006. Prior to the introduction of the notebook drive, Panasonic will ship samples of the half-height desktop version in October and start volume production by January 2006. The drives will support playback and recording of single-layer and dual-layer BDs as well as all types of recordable DVDs and CDs.




Oct 2, 2005 - Paramount Home Entertainment to Support Blu-ray Disc Format

Paramount Home Entertainment, which earlier this year announced support for the HD-DVD format, has decided that they will begin releasing high-definition movies in the Blu-ray format when hardware becomes available early next year. "We have been intrigued by the broad support of Blu-ray, especially the key advantage of including Blu-ray in PlayStation 3," said Thomas Lesinski, president of Paramount's Worldwide Home Entertainment. "After more detailed assessment and new data on cost, manufacturability and copy protection solutions, we have now made the decision to move ahead with the Blu-ray format." This announcement comes shortly after the movie studios supporting the HD-DVD format decided to postpone their US launch of HD-DVD, and swings the balance of studio support clearly in favor of Blu-ray. There's also speculation that Warner and Universal will follow suit shortly.




Sep 29, 2005 - Dell and Hewlett Packard Set the Record Straight on Blu-ray

Dell and Hewlett Packard, the worlds two largest PC manufacturers, today reiterated their support for Blu-ray and addressed the inaccurate information cited by Microsoft and Intel regarding the Blu-ray Disc format. "Every computer manufacturer in the BDA carefully reviewed both formats and ultimately chose Blu-ray as the superior solution for meeting customer demands and providing the best possible end-user experience," said Maureen Weber, General Manager of Hewlett Packard's Personal Storage Business. "It is surprising that Tuesday's announcement is not aligned with that of the vast majority of the computer industry and is contrary to our consumer research." Virtually every computer company that has expressed a preference for a high definition disc format has chosen Blu-ray Disc as the superior format for computer platforms and applications, including top-tier computer brands such as Dell, Hewlett Packard, Panasonic, Sony and LG.
 
I knew Blu-ray would be the same cost of DVD it happens with hardware and stuff. Over time the older stuff gets cheaper and cheaper.

Which allows the new hardware and stuff to be nearly as cheap, as the old hardware and stuff when that was new mates.
 
Looks like another step towards Blu-Ray becoming the standard. Its getting more and more obvious that HD is running out of steam quickly...

Someone at Microsoft may be getting the sack...

Actually... is it even tenable that MS could use Blu-Ray drives in their console (360s or future XBOXs) as its a Sony technology? Would Sony let them and would MS ever do it anyway?
 
Sony would certainly let them, yes. For a fee, of course. For MS, I think it's a matter of principle.. they'd probably consider it a "weakness" to use the competition's technology in their products. Even though they're not really competing with Sony itself, only SCEI (or whatever they're calling themselves these days).

If BD becomes the standard, which seems likely, then the next-next-gen systems (XB3, PS4, etc) will ALL use Blu-Ray. Then they'll be in a bit of a pickle, eh?
 
Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

The ad for the Blu-Ray is quite attractive! :O 👍

I think Microsoft might find an way to get a company to create something similar to Blu-Ray in order to compete. :odd:
 
Microscro won't be as screwed as NEC and the HDDVD team.
 
Omnis
Microscro won't be as screwed as NEC and the HDDVD team.
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I think you're right. BD win is a big hit for Microsoft, but even bigger hit for Toshiba and and the rest of the HD-DVD supporters.
 
It doesnt suck for microsoft, What does suck for MS is not waiting a few more months to make HD-dvd its standard for "games". Sega had GD-rom, GCN has its micro dvd. MS's goal for HD medium was for movies only, that alone would have been or is a bad move. Its a financial victory for MS, they dont have to shell out money to build consoles no one is going to buy or support fully.
 
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I think you're right. BD win is a big hit for Microsoft, but even bigger hit for Toshiba and and the rest of the HD-DVD supporters.
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You mean Sony?
 
Omnis
You mean Sony?
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I think he means hit as in an attack.

Yeah, I say Toshiba and MS have taken a big hit. But, they were given multiple chances to join Sony, but they declined.
 
Solid Lifters
I think he means hit as in an attack.

Yeah, I say Toshiba and MS have taken a big hit. But, they were given multiple chances to join Sony, but they declined.
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Thank you. That is what I meant. :) Toshiba camp were given chances, but I'm sure they probably wanted in as equals, when that's just not possible. Toshiba and their allies took a gamble, they'll probably lose.

LaBounti
It doesnt suck for microsoft, What does suck for MS is not waiting a few more months to make HD-dvd its standard for "games". Sega had GD-rom, GCN has its micro dvd. MS's goal for HD medium was for movies only, that alone would have been or is a bad move. Its a financial victory for MS, they dont have to shell out money to build consoles no one is going to buy or support fully.
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I agree. I also agree that, financially, it would be a good move to just skip HD-DVD altogether.
 
Wow, I apologize. I totally misread the sentence and had a dyslexic moment with "BD win" and "HD-DVD supporters"


Edit: No, I'm not dyslexic. I just had a moment.
 
Omnis
Wow, I apologize. I totally misread the sentence and had a dyslexic moment with "BD win" and "HD-DVD supporters"


Edit: No, I'm not dyslexic. I just had a moment.
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:lol: No prob, Omnis. Everybody has "moments"....... right?
 
It really does look like Blu Ray is getting vast support. Sony/Phillips have too many on their side to "lose" now, have'nt they?
 
I was just joking with that last one.

Don't worry, though, Solid. It's not the moment, it's the, uh...aftermath. (god, that does suck.)
 
October 20, 2005 - Warner Supports Blu-ray Format

Warner Bros. Entertainment and its home entertainment division Warner Home Video, which distributes the largest film library of any studio, today announced it has joined the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association and will release its films on the Blu-ray format. "Consumers will soon be able to enjoy a large selection of catalogue favorites and contemporary hits from Warner's vast library on the Blu-ray format," said Jim Cardwell, President, Warner Home Video. Warner Home Video will release titles on the Blu-ray format to support the launch of Blu-ray players in North America, Japan and Europe, giving consumers the ability to enjoy a wide range of new releases and selections from Warner Bros.' vast library and that of New Line Home Entertainment and HBO Home Video on the Blu-ray format. The other studios supporting Blu-ray have welcomed the announcement and are now hopeful that a format war can be avoided.

Oct 19, 2005 - HP Drives Format Compatibility for High-Definition DVDs

HP today announced that they would like to see mandatory managed copy and iHD adopted by Blu-ray Disc to try and bridge the differences between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. The company has formally appealed to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) to include these technologies as part of its format specification to help create a seamless experience throughout the digitally connected home. The move reflects HP's desire to ensure that consumers aren't forced to choose between competing HD formats for DVDs. "We know now that there's going to be a standards war," said Maureen Weber, general manager of personal storage at HP. "Our goal is to minimize its impact. The bottom line is that we're still very committed to Blu-ray, but we want to protect our consumers."
 
Solid Lifters
October 20, 2005 - Warner Supports Blu-ray Format

Warner Bros. Entertainment and its home entertainment division Warner Home Video, which distributes the largest film library of any studio, today announced it has joined the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association and will release its films on the Blu-ray format. "Consumers will soon be able to enjoy a large selection of catalogue favorites and contemporary hits from Warner's vast library on the Blu-ray format," said Jim Cardwell, President, Warner Home Video. Warner Home Video will release titles on the Blu-ray format to support the launch of Blu-ray players in North America, Japan and Europe, giving consumers the ability to enjoy a wide range of new releases and selections from Warner Bros.' vast library and that of New Line Home Entertainment and HBO Home Video on the Blu-ray format. The other studios supporting Blu-ray have welcomed the announcement and are now hopeful that a format war can be avoided.
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I didn't even realize this before, but do you know what the greatest thing about watching movies on Blu-ray disc is? No more "freezes" on dual-layer switching! :D It's so annoying.

Solid Lifters
Oct 19, 2005 - HP Drives Format Compatibility for High-Definition DVDs

HP today announced that they would like to see mandatory managed copy and iHD adopted by Blu-ray Disc to try and bridge the differences between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. The company has formally appealed to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) to include these technologies as part of its format specification to help create a seamless experience throughout the digitally connected home. The move reflects HP's desire to ensure that consumers aren't forced to choose between competing HD formats for DVDs. "We know now that there's going to be a standards war," said Maureen Weber, general manager of personal storage at HP. "Our goal is to minimize its impact. The bottom line is that we're still very committed to Blu-ray, but we want to protect our consumers."
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It's still going to cost the consumers. IMO, Chances of HD-DVD even coming close to keeping up with Blu-ray DVD is slim to none. How about letting them compete. I highly doubt HD-DVD would survive too long. It will be just like the Mini Discs(which I loved :() and Beta tapes. They can compete all they want, but I don't think comsumers will pay no mind to them at all. It will cost us, the consumers nothing. It will cost the Toshiba camp a lot of money, and also jobs(if you know what I mean).
 

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