BMW 3-Series (G20) / M3 (G80) / 4-Series / M4

Discussion in 'Auto News' started by ProjectWHaT, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. mustafur

    mustafur

    Messages:
    9,054
    Location:
    Australia
    I'll be very surprised that the new model will be lighter despite AWD, it's already lighter then the last 2 generations before it, a welcoming trend that's rare in the car world.
     
  2. Danoff

    Danoff Premium

    Messages:
    27,618
    Location:
    United States
    Maybe kidney grilles weigh less than sheet metal.
     
    Wolfe and mustafur like this.
  3. MedigoFlame

    MedigoFlame Premium

    Messages:
    5,673
    Location:
    United States
    Supposedly a leak of the rear end recently popped up.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. GTV0819

    GTV0819 (Banned)

    Messages:
    6,086
    Many new cars are like that nowadays. I mean every new model would be usually lighter than the model it replaces somehow. But as you've stated, this one's AWD though so that's intriguing.
     
  5. RandomCarGuy17

    RandomCarGuy17

    Messages:
    15,289
    Location:
    United States
    So, the design boss of BMW is defending the Concept 4's design.
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/bmw-design-boss-defends-radical-styling-direction

     
  6. 05XR8

    05XR8

    Messages:
    32,554
    Location:
    Australia
    I really don't want to make a long post to express what I have to say.

    If Ai factor in the post above about cars being lighter, would any of those 7 series buyers care? The benefits are definitely fuel mileage and better handling acceleration braking performance. Again, do those owners care? If all they are looking at is what's different, why make a big ass grille?

    It can't be that simple and owners be that shallow, to make a $100k direct debit based on the grill.

    I want to type more, but I'm shaking my head with that little bit of info the design boss gave.
     
  7. FT-1

    FT-1

    Messages:
    7,147
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    bremics likes this.
  8. R1600Turbo

    R1600Turbo Premium

    Messages:
    51,650
    Location:
    United States
    Kill it with fire.
     
    mustafur, RouWa, GranTurNismo and 2 others like this.
  9. Darla Starch

    Darla Starch Premium

    Messages:
    2,087
    Location:
    North Korea
    [​IMG]
     
    bremics likes this.
  10. Wolfe

    Wolfe Premium

    Messages:
    12,837
    Location:
    United States
    The Y-axis is almost complete. Next, to further expand on the X-axis in their mission to make the fascia 100% grille.

    However, truthfully, seeing it in this guise...as a BMW fan who prefers their pre-1990s designs, I actually appreciate the pivot to a shape that is more "BMW" to me than more recent kidney grilles. But I think the Concept 4 is still a preview of how unflattering it will be when we get a better look.
     
  11. VXR

    VXR

    Messages:
    9,822
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Thank goodness for countries that require a front plate, because hopefully it'll cover a good portion of it across the middle.
     
  12. Clark

    Clark Premium

    Messages:
    7,997
    Location:
    England
    Elsewhere things are as they should be. C893FC78-8A7A-4DCE-B146-1C13003F2461.jpeg A72A0114-4E4B-41CF-8180-FC56CB62D2B5.jpeg
     
  13. 05XR8

    05XR8

    Messages:
    32,554
    Location:
    Australia
    Either that thing is a Transformer or something out of Robotech. I gotta say, that looks interesting without the gaudy chrome surrounds.
     
  14. MatskiMonk

    MatskiMonk

    Messages:
    12,506
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Alpina using the M-Sport bumper as the basis... that doesn't happen often. De-tuned M3/M4 engine too. Alpina mean business.
     
  15. mustafur

    mustafur

    Messages:
    9,054
    Location:
    Australia
    Hopefully that Grille does it's job and no one buys them, I don't want to see that crap in public.
     
  16. Clark

    Clark Premium

    Messages:
    7,997
    Location:
    England
    Jalopnik fixed it. 586DFD2D-622B-402F-BFFB-794646F589E2.png
     
    GranTurNismo and bremics like this.
  17. mustafur

    mustafur

    Messages:
    9,054
    Location:
    Australia
    Who wants to bet these cars will get an early facelift.
     
    GranTurNismo and Supaboost like this.
  18. VulcanSpirit

    VulcanSpirit

    Messages:
    830
    "I'd rather be a pig than a 3 Series."

    At first, I thought that grille looked slightly more tolerable than on the concept, but after comparing photos of both, I'm not so sure now...
     
  19. Danoff

    Danoff Premium

    Messages:
    27,618
    Location:
    United States
    What behind the rabbit?

     
  20. Clark

    Clark Premium

    Messages:
    7,997
    Location:
    England
    Sad that the (US only) M340i will be the only non M RWD Six cylinder 3 series on sale.
     
  21. GTboyz

    GTboyz

    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Indonesia
    Oh god
     
  22. Sage Ages

    Sage Ages

    Messages:
    12,411
    Location:
    United States
    I reckon it might look a bit better with chrome trim.
     
  23. GranTurNismo

    GranTurNismo Premium

    Messages:
    1,832
    Location:
    United States
    It will be the exact same situation as the new Camaro. Corporate though it looked great, the public hated it, and corporate rushes to change the front to make it look more conservative and less ugly. I guarantee this will happen with the new M3/M4.
     
  24. MatskiMonk

    MatskiMonk

    Messages:
    12,506
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I bet one cookie each it doesn't, not by any relevant amount anyway - you won't be seeing a facelift after 1-2 years for example. BMW very rarely deviate from their LCI schedule no matter the keyboard-rage, and if they do it's generally been to extend the life of something.
     
  25. ProjectWHaT

    ProjectWHaT

    Messages:
    13,746
    Location:
    Antarctica
  26. VXR

    VXR

    Messages:
    9,822
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Perceived quality really is low with BMW interiors these days. The air vent execution is particularly tacky.
     
  27. MatskiMonk

    MatskiMonk

    Messages:
    12,506
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Most new BMW's tend to score well for their interiors.
     
  28. VXR

    VXR

    Messages:
    9,822
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    So do Audi and they dont look too great, either.
     
  29. MatskiMonk

    MatskiMonk

    Messages:
    12,506
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Something can not be to your taste but still be of high perceived quality, and indeed high actual quality.
     
  30. 05XR8

    05XR8

    Messages:
    32,554
    Location:
    Australia
    What's making it tacky?