Hmmm..
Does it remind anyone else of a Lancia, or am I off my rocker?
What's all this '80s talk when the M1 was born in the '70s?
Anyway, this looks amazing; along with the Mille Miglia concept, it's one of the best designs modern BMW has come up with. I hope we'll at least get to drive it in a videogame or two, if BMW sticks to leaving it as a concept. If not, it'd be great with the M3's V8.
Amen.
The rear looks pretty neat, though those logos on the corners look ridiculous.
Hmmm..
Does it remind anyone else of a Lancia, or am I off my rocker?
BMW needs to loose everything "Bangle" and get back to its roots of clean, simple and elegant design. And the "Hommage" has none of that!!!
Your statement offends me.
Would you rather me be LESS politically correct?? I can be quite blunt about it if you'd like and use the R word to better describe them.Not only the 'special' part,
No, he didn't revolutionise anything. If anything, he abortioned design and is hated for it from quite a few of his peers!! Hence the comment "To BANGLE a car" which means to totally ruin it!!but also however you look at it, Bangle and the BMW team did revolutionize design.
See, compare that to the more classic shaped BMW's. The E30 shape is still one of the most loved designs by BMW enthusiasts, even nearly 30yrs after it's release. The 2002 also holds a special place in BMW loving hearts.Whether for the better or worse is quite arguable, however, every major company is now following them in some form. After the few years I've had to get used to them, I actually think they don't look too bad; however, I'm young so I might not represent the majority.
While this design does look pretty ugly now, I'm sure that if they make a toned-down production version, it will be considered an exotic beauty in a few years--remember everyone once thought the Murcielago, Gallardo, 599 GTB, F430 and the like were ugly?
All the cars you've described were heralded as being great pieces of automotive work, Bangle's creations have been described from having "Bangle Butt" to "being designed by a Machete". Even people like J Mays, Ford's chief designer admits to hating Bangle's designs and that man has been credited with nearly every car design award known to man.Evo MagazineEvo Magazine named the 599 GTB as the Car of the Year for 2006 despite strong competition from rivals Porsche and Lamborghini and other high-performance cars.
I repeat: they look ridiculous.
Do go on, you're not the first person I've annoyed today.![]()
Would you rather me be LESS politically correct?? I can be quite blunt about it if you'd like and use the R word to better describe them.![]()
No, he didn't revolutionise anything. If anything, he abortioned design and is hated for it from quite a few of his peers!! Hence the comment "To BANGLE a car" which means to totally ruin it!!
See, compare that to the more classic shaped BMW's. The E30 shape is still one of the most loved designs by BMW enthusiasts, even nearly 30yrs after it's release. The 2002 also holds a special place in BMW loving hearts.
F430 & ugly in the same sentence, I never thought I'd see that.
The Murcie and Gallardo were applauded for holding true to Lamborghini's wedge designs (like the Countach & Diablo) and their sales figures more than prove that, by increasing Lambo's share in the market 10 fold, and as for the 599GTB, I'll let the next quote do the talking:
All the cars you've described were heralded as being great pieces of automotive work, Bangle's creations have been described from having "Bangle Butt" to "being designed by a Machete". Even people like J Mays, Ford's chief designer admits to hating Bangle's designs and that man has been credited with nearly every car design award known to man.
Check Asperger's thread to see what I'm trying to research for myself. You are totally right however, retardation is such a broad spectrum these days and you can be talking about anything from Downes Syndrome to Autism. But I wasn't being ignorant as I first referred to them as 'special' people and as the person was insulted for me being politically correct I added that bit on that I could've been blunt and said the R word. That was all.Which would only show your ignorance: not every mental problem is due to retardation. Autism, for instance, has nothing to do with intelligence, but with social interaction.
Believe it or not, the Z4 was the one that was described as "designed with a machete".People would disagree with you. I personally think Bangle is hit-or-miss, but there's no denying his influence. The Camry, even, has a little of Bangle's influence in it. Oh, yeah. Z4. That is one looker of a car.
The 7 and 3-series?...not so much. It is worth noting that those two are his most conservative designs: by that, I mean that they have the more of their old shapes compared to the other vehicles.
I think it's more the mechanicals than anything, as if you removed the grilles, you'd be hard-pressed telling they were BMWs. The Hoffmeister Kink might be the only clue.
Yay, we both agree on that one.Some people don't like them. I'm indifferent. Expensive cars for people with money.
Yes and No. People like myself who absolutely despise his work at BMW agree that some of his styling cues have snuck their way onto other cars (Alfa 159 for example!) and his influence on the auto industry has been more than quite a lot of designer's, but it still doesn't stop people saying that a new car has been 'bangled'.and, yet, you're starting to see his flame surfacing (and, yes, even that Bangle Butt,) showing up in other cars. Can you not deny that SOME people actually like his work?
I didn't say he was directly involved, my original comment was that his team did it, all he did was approve it.By the way, I see nothing that states Bangle was directly involved in this vehicle. In fact, I think it looks much more Italdesign-inspired than Bangle.
That just goes to show how automotive styling is entirely subjective. Like you, I adore the E30, particularly the M3. I love older BMWs, particularly from the '60s to '80s, though I quite like a few of their pre-war cars. Overall I think the '90s was a low point in automotive styling, but I still like some of the BMWs made during the period.F430 & ugly in the same sentence, I never thought I'd see that.
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Interesting use of the word "design."And for the record, I think J. Mays is one of the worst automotive designers in history, having designed many cars that are twenty times uglier than anything Bangle could dream up.
And for the record, I think J. Mays is one of the worst automotive designers in history, having designed many cars that are twenty times uglier than anything Bangle could dream up.
See my comment.Didn't J. Mays head the building of the Ford GT?
WikipediaCamilo Pardo, the head of Ford's "Living Legends" studio, is credited as the chief designer of the GT and worked under the guidance of J Mays.
[OT:] There's an Asperger's thread? I've got Asperger's, please post the link.