BMW Tii Concept

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exigeracer
I think it is just because all of these brands keep releasing these cars they claim to be track-oriented, but they still come loaded with all of these creature comforts, just so they can sell them to the dentists and their wives. I am sure that the Tii's weight can be lowered significantly to make it less of a comfortable cruiser and into an edgy racer. I think Porsche and Lotus are currently the only companies who have anything close to this for sale.

We had this discussion on another for recently, it was very interesting to see how it developed. One of the more interesting examples was a customer who went in to check out the new Superleggera Gallardos, which are labeled and marketed as the stripped out racer version of the regular Gallardo. He took one peak in the interior, saw the LCD navigation system and turned around. Although it doesn't add significant weight, it still does not belong in a car of that nature.
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you are forgetting that some people can only afford one car, and they would want it to have some of the everyday gadgets , but also be a very good track car.
 
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I agree with ///M-Spec (+rep for the ad :lol: ) and Kent -- I think the 1-series' weight is well within the range that can be reasonably expected. After all, though I'd love to be able to go into a BMW dealership and buy a 2700-lb. coupe, we're living in the year 2007, not 1987.

In any case, regardless of the weight, the 1-series has already proven to be a fun-to-drive car that simply lacks the space or practicality of its transverse-engine rivals. In a strictly sport-focused model like this tii, that latter point becomes moot, and the fun-to-drive factor is only strengthened.
 
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I guess people just have a high expectations of BMW, and maybe thats a good thing maybe one day BMW will make car with those specs but it aint the 1 series .
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I think that's very true. I've been 'with' the brand for about 15 years now and have noticed BMW garners some very loyal and fanatical (if not a little crazy) fans; as strong as any exotic car maker. We're tough on the things we love, and I think the fans do expect a whole lot when a new BMW hits the ground.

exigeracer
I think it is just because all of these brands keep releasing these cars they claim to be track-oriented, but they still come loaded with all of these creature comforts, just so they can sell them to the dentists and their wives.
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Yes. There is a distinct disconnect between what sort of products roll off the lines and what the marketing monkeys hype to the public.

That being said, market realities are what they are. There is a tiny, tiny market for $35-40 cars that are loud, ride rough and have no options. Porsche sells many, many more Carreras than GT3 RSs. I'd wager the RS looses money for Porsche, but they do it to keep the entire 911 range steeped in unassailable credibility.

And while Lotus does a commendable job keeping their products truly focused, let's not forget their annual output is but a fraction of what BMW produces in a month. And it wasn't very long ago that the company was completely inviable, from a business prospective.

Like it or not BMW, and every car company out there is in the business of making money. And that means building cars that dentists buy for their wives. People only think they want race cars for the road. So the monkies pander to this desire. Except for a tiny, minute fraction, they really don't.

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:lol: Did you ask Keef for help?
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Nope. Sadly, I came up with that little gem all on my own.


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-- I think the 1-series' weight is well within the range that can be reasonably expected. After all, though I'd love to be able to go into a BMW dealership and buy a 2700-lb. coupe, we're living in the year 2007, not 1987.
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Eminently reasonable. 👍 Thanks for the rep.


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exigeracer
Read my original post. I had issue with the way BMW was advertising it.
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I think BMW could be right with their ad, especially with cars getting heavier all the time. Maybe they just wanted to up the ante.
 
///M-Spec
I think that's very true. I've been 'with' the brand for about 15 years now and have noticed BMW garners some very loyal and fanatical (if not a little crazy) fans; as strong as any exotic car maker. We're tough on the things we love, and I think the fans do expect a whole lot when a new BMW hits the ground.
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I've been a fan of BMW since I was 2 years old lol (23 now), and I was more stunned when I saw my uncles red E30 325 coupe, Now I've owned a 2004 318 coupe used for a year then switched to a 2004 vert 318 and still got it, and after 4 years of owning an E46 I still love driving it everyday and that is one of the things that makes BMW special I think , being fun to drive its not just handling power and performance its FUN thats why I think the idea of 1er tii is good because it will be fun.
 
I just had a thought, some people might be complaining how about BMW used a turbo on one of their engines , so this is just away to link an old car with a new and make a statement "We have used Turbo engines before" . Marketing tool
 
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I just had a thought, some people might be complaining how about BMW used a turbo on one of their engines , so this is just away to link an old car with a new and make a statement "We have used Turbo engines before" . Marketing tool
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I'm not complaining about them using a turbo on any car, in fact I would favor it. It's just that BMW have vowed to not use a turbo in an M model, and I'm using that to say that the car pictured will not wear an M badge.
 

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