Body/ Visual mods in GT4

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If visual mods are a part of GT4's tuning village whatsort of thing would you like to see, if anything?

Personally i want to be able to actually change the size of exhaust pipe on cars because after fitting a racing muffler i think it is kind of silly that cars still have stock tailpipes. As far as body kits are concerned i would prefer the kind which are found in auto modellista with names such as Veilside, Bomex, C-West etc. Parts which do not go over the top in Need for Speed Underground style are best like the TRIAL Celica in Prologue. The body kits hould be useful and actually change the downforce so plz do not dismiss them as being 'rice'
 
How many times have we done this? I can count 3 times without hesitation.

This isn't Rice Turismo 4.

Please use the search feature.
 
1. Read John's thread about newbies.
2. USE THE SEARCH!!!
3. Listen to viper.

Don't feel like we're making fun of newbies, but this happens SO more often then it should. If you are going to make a topic, then click the search button. If you can't find it, click here. Nine times out of ten there is a thread already made.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
I guess all you non-ricers out there are ignorant enough to think that all race cars use factory aerodynamics then huh?
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Good call, Battle.....

Like it or not, aero kits are an important part of racing/rally/drifting, and will be part of GT4 in some shape or form....


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Maybe we can add 22's to our BMW M5 too? :rolleyes:

I guess it would be cool, but should be on the bottom of the priority list IMO. I'm no game programmer, but it would seem to add a body kit to a car would be like having to redesign the car's object in the game, making each car with a different kit be a seperate object more or less. So if every car was able to choose from 5 different kits, and there is 500 cars in the game... well you can do the math, 2500 cars is hard on the 200MHz cpu ;)
 
It's not the CPU that would be under starin, that doesn't have to cope with 500+ cars at any one time, all it has to do is 6 cars and a track. It streams info from the disk when needed. The problem is time and storage. You can get round storage eas enough by using multi layered DVD's but the time it would take to do kit's for each car would mean a late 2005 to 2006 release at the earliest. PD will be adding kit's but only for a limited number of cars and I doubt we'll see more than one kit for any one model.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
This isn't Rice Turismo 4.
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I will say again that I DO NOT want NFS Underground Style rice but useful aero kits that change aerodynamics. I knew when i created this thread that some would hate the idea but that's what this thread is about. What would you like to see, if anything? Apologies for creating another thread but when i searched i found nothing (can't have included the correct words)
 
Some people will never understand, aero kit's ARE body kit's as are show kit's as I call them. Both are body kit's one is usefull, the other isn't but some people as soon as you say body kit are like noooo, bodykit's are gay, then they'll switch on GT3 and admire tha Castrol Supra or Gillet Vertigo in their garage.
 
Originally posted by GT-Unit
body kit=no sim=not in gt4
racing modifications=happens in real life=will be in gt4
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So your telling me that people go into tuning places that make your car race worthy and ask for a race modification. They don't, there is no such thing as a race modification. The race modification in GT1 and GT2 was an option to give your car a roll cage, replace the bodypanels with lighter amterials and give the car a body kit. Body kit's are on most race cars, old and new be it smoething as simple as a rear wing right up to skirts, splitters diffusers and many more. Also race cars have more air intakes and outake's to allow more air to cool the cars parts and the allow it to escape reducing drag. In real life, people go into a specalist tuning outfit and say they wan't a car that meets this, that and the other regulation's and then they do it, they change the bodywork by giving it aero parts (body kit's) and the mechanicals and give the car the safety features required (roll cage, fire extinguishers ect).
 
I think PD's track record has shown that they prefer reality over "cartoonish" mods like those in other games. I feel pretty confident you won't find things like an exhaust pipe big enough to stick your head in, or a wing big enough to surf on... i'm sure what ever "mods" that will be available will be based on real racing body parts from the real manufacturers (like Momo, Neuspeed, Stillen, etc). And besides there won't be a rule that you HAVE to use these mods, so if you aren't into it, then don't add them to your ride.
 
Woah, sorry liveforspeed, didn't know I was that offensive to you.

All I meant by my comment was that you can purchase all those things in real life for the race modifications, and KY announced that some type of a race mod would be in GT4. Body kits are NFSU type stuff, sure they are in real life, but it wouldn't make it a sim. A lot of people don't want body kits in the game, and I'm sure a lot of people do too. I don't think that they will, however. And this topic is already covered in like 5 other threads.

edit: I think that Phantasm hit it right on
 
Originally posted by GT-Unit
Woah, sorry liveforspeed, didn't know I was that offensive to you.

All I meant by my comment was that you can purchase all those things in real life for the race modifications, and KY announced that some type of a race mod would be in GT4. Body kits are NFSU type stuff, sure they are in real life, but it wouldn't make it a sim.
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You didn't offend me, but I can't see why people have trouble realising race mod's arn't real, real race cars have body kit's. And a body kit does'nt have to be some ugly chunky front bumper that does nothing usefull to your car. There are differnt kinds of body kit, aero kit's and style kit's are two of them but both are body kit's. Aero kit's are usefull, thety provide downforce where needed and less drag where needed. Finally, KY hasn't mentioned race mod's, he did mention body kit's and said they will be available for a select few cars. What he meant by "body kit's" is open o debate, he probably means a pre-selected kit that you buy whole for your car like the body kit's included in the race mod's in GT1 and GT2. Bodykit's are race car stuff, not just NFSU type stuff.
 
I think I understand what live4speed is saying. We're not talking about putting a 'Black Widow' kit on a Cerberra. He's talking about actual mods to the body of the car to aid in racing.

Here's an example......

PicFetch

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Just a few mods to the outside of that RS6, but they make a hell of a difference. Theres a lower front splitter for downforce, vents in the hood to get heat out, bigger fenders to get some more tire underneath the car, lower sculpted side sills for aerodynamics, and the wing in the back for additional downforce. I really don't care if these types of mods are in GT4 or not. It would be cool, I'd enjoy it, but its not that important to me. But, like live4speed said, there is a difference between just a body kit and actually modifying a car for racing.

Hilg
 
there is a difference between functional bolt-on aero modifications and the ricer crap.

underbody panels, rear defusers, front splitters, airdams, vented hoods, etc - are functional.

Andy's bomz house of stunna bumperz are not.

one more time:
FUNCTIONAL MODIFICATIONS ON A RACE CAR
the red car has an airdam to increase front downforce. The white car has the turn signals removed and uses the ports for brake ducts.
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the yellow civic has an airdam / splitter combo
the red prelude has a small airdam
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This black CRX has a front airdam
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MODIFICATIONS FOR "GOOD" lOOKS ONLY:
Fake rear brake ducts, fake rear vents, fake rear defuser
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useless...
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edit: looks like someone beat me to it.
 
Thanks, Greyout, that's a good explanation. 👍 Anyone who can't see the difference is an idiot.
 
Yes, liveforspeed, the two pics that jrnasty showed are the types of racing mods I am talking about, not only improvements to the vehicle in terms of the "body" of the car, but also to the visual appearance (looks much nicer)
 
I got what you meant by racing mod, like in GT1 and GT2 but you were saying body kit's were NFSU crap and shouldn't be in GT because they arn't realistic in a sim. My final point on the matter, if there's no body kit's, there certainly no race mod's. But let's not dwell on the matter too much should someone here think were arguing.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
Thanks, Greyout, that's a good explanation. 👍 Anyone who can't see the difference is an idiot.
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Yes, thank you so much GREYOUT :rolleyes: I'm glad you posted those, cause I'm still confused :lol: Whats wrong Viper, my description wasn't good enough for you???? J/K

Hilg
 
Anytime someone mentions a body kit everyone cries ricer. Who care's? Aero modifications are either functional or not. If it works, use it. Is it a crime if it looks good too? Quit complaining. No one said you had to use those parts. And this is Polyphony Digital we're talking about. POLYPHONY DIGITAL! This is not Electronic Arts. EA is a sellout. They turned Need For Speed in The Fast and the Furious. Polyphony Digital makes quality products, they would not sellout like EA and lose all the diehard fans of the GT series.
 
Some body kits in GT4 to enhance your road car would be good. I think that NFSU was aimed at a younger audience thus the boy racer style kits. My 12 year old son and his freinds actually like the body kits in NFSU.
As battle just said if you dont like them you do not have to use them. Maybe PD will offer several styles that will try to appeal to all tastes?
 
NFSU was aimed at the general audience, which is people who only want "pimped out" cars. Which is generally big wheels, neons, graphics, and nitrous.

Gran Turismo is based on motorsports. Being a poser is not a motorsport. Aero kits/ body kits/ body modification is part of motorsports.

Should some stupid poser who THINKS he's fast decide whether or not a RACING SIMULATION includes a modification important to RACING.
 
Originally posted by Uncle Harry
Some body kits in GT4 to enhance your road car would be good.
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Show me one body kit that enhances you car for performance gain.

NFS:U is for drift noobs and rice boys alike and that is where they should stay.
 

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