BoP Update 1.09/1.10

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I don't have anything to add. I've seen the stats. Looks well considered on paper but how does it translate on track?

Gr.3 Class
・BMW M6 GT3 '16 [Power Ratio : 97% > 98%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 101% > 102%]
・BMW Z4 GT3 '11 [Power Ratio : 106% > 105%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% > 108%]
・GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3) [Power Ratio : 89% > 88%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 106% > 110%]
・Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT)'15 [Power Ratio : 90% > 92%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% > 108%]
・Aston Martin V12 VANTAGE GT3 '12 [Power Ratio : 112% > 111%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 105% > 104%]
・Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 105% > 106%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 105%]
・Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power Ratio : 100% > 101%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 103%]
・Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 106% > 102%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 101%]
・Jaguar F-Type Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 102% > 101%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 106%]
・Subaru WRX Gr.3 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 103%]
・Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R [Power Ratio : 86% > 84%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 103%]
・Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 111% > 113%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 105%]
・Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 [Power Ratio : 100% > 101%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 107% > 109%]
・Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power Ratio : 104% > 100%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 104%]
・Volkswagen Beetle Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 90% > 91%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 106% > 110%]
・Ford Mustang Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 112% > 109%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 104% > 105%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 110%]
・Peugeot Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power Ratio : 96% > 100%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 106%]
・Honda NSX Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 100% > 96%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 102%]
・Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% > 106%]
・McLaren 650S GT3 [Power Ratio : 108% > 110%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 107%]
・Mazda Atenza Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 105% > 104%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 103%]
・Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) [Power Ratio : 95% > 93%]
・Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 [Power Ratio : 105% > 103%]
・Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15 [Power Ratio : 95% > 94%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 106% > 108%]
・Renault Sport R.S.01 GT3 '16 [Power Ratio : 101% > 100%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 106% > 109%]
・Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) [Power Ratio : 101% > 102%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 106% > 107%]

Gr.4 Class
・BMW M4 Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 107% > 104%]
・GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 90% > 94%]
・Audi TT cup'16 [Power Ratio : 106% > 104%]
・Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 99% > 100%]
・Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 104% > 111%]
・Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% > 111%]
・Jaguar F-type Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 96% > 100%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% > 107%]
・Dodge Viper Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 92% > 93%]
・Toyota TOYOTA 86 Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 99% > 100%]
・Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% > 107%]
・Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 97% > 92%]
・Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 99% > 102%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 110% > 108%]
・Honda NSX Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 109% > 107%]
・Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport [Power Ratio : 91% > 93%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% > 111%]
・McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 92% > 94%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 110% > 112%]
・Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 96% > 97%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 110% > 105%]
・Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 98% > 99%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% > 103%]
・Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 105% > 100%]
・Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 100% > 98%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 105% > 102%]
・Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 98% > 99%] [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 101%]
・Nissan GT-R Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 110% > 105%]
 
Question about the weight reduction ratio - the lower it is - the higher the weight of the car is, right?

e.g. [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 101%] would actually be "bad" as the car would be heavier? Just having troubles understanding the whole concept of "reduction - weight" ratio with percentages.
 
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Question about the weight reduction ratio - the lower it is - the higher the weight of the car is, right?

e.g. [Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% > 101%] would actually be "bad" as the car would be heavier? Just having troubles understanding the whole concept of "reduction - weight" ratio with percentages.
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The lower the percentage the lighter the car. I wondered too but if you look at the stats to the left of the screen when you make the adjustment the car gets lighter as you reduce the percentage. Slightly confusing wording, it shouldn't be "weight reduction ratio" it should simply be "weight".
So really it seems like most of the Gr3 cars just got heavier and less powerful, including my beloved Z4 :guilty:
 
I can't hardly believe I'm seeing ~5% changes in weight (e.g. BMW Z4 Gr.3), that's MASSIVE, let alone the 8% change to the RCZ Gr.3. These are some major changes, folks. PD isn't just tapping the sliders on this update. I can't wait to see how Sport Mode is going to look this next week.

edit: Makes me wonder just how much tweak there is in the "improved handling" patch notes to warrant this sort of increased weight fluctuation across the board.
 
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I predict in Gr.3, Porsches and Beetles will remain fast and popular, and Gr.4 should see the return of the Citroën and Viper in the top spots. The Scirocco and Megane will probably remain competitive on lap times, but at least we should be able to overtake them now. As long as they're not the automatic winners in battle situations, we should see more and more people switching to something more consistent like 4WDs.

Just reading the figures, I can see the new BoP is still not perfect, but it's going mostly in the right direction. Keep driving, the more data, the better next BoP tweaks will be.
 
Did they REALLY need to tinker with EVERY car??!

I'm so mad right now. They torpedoed the Corvette and Z4, and it was already hard to keep up with the legions of 911s.

And when will they fix the unbalanced fuel economy?

GR.4 is about to become a viper fest btw. I'm so sick of this game
 
Renrag39
Gr.3 Class
・Subaru WRX Gr.3 [Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% > 103%]
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On a more serious note, it'll be interesting to see how the heavier weight ratios across the board will affect Gr3 times. It's going to be a bit more challenging to hit the previous best times, but I think we'll still see many of the current crowd favorites clean house in Sport Mode and the FIA Championships.
 
The Bop was adjusted, but the fuel usage makes it's a moot point. I had the sls doing well, but it needed a splash and go while the Megane could do a fast pace on no stops.

PD is obviously adjusting based on car stats, not real usage data. Their adjustments make no sense from the perspective of in game performance.
 
take a look at BoP'd lbs/hp...
Megane = 7.21
Cayman = 9.72
mmmm... ok.

BTW, does any have a complete listing of hp and weight BoP across the entire field?
So far I am missing the following;
Gr.3 Mustang BoP weight?
Gr.3 Merc AMG BoP weight?
Gr.3 Merc SLS AMG BoP weight?
Gr.3 RSR BoP power?
Gr.3 WRX BoP power?
 
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