Boxer Spirit

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If your like me and dont know too much about cars then you might have this question:

Whats a Boxer engine and what makes it a Boxer engined car?

Oh, and although ive beat the Boxer Spirit series I was just wondering if someone had a car list for all the Boxer engine cars.
 
Definition: A designation for an engine where the cylinders are arranged opposite (180° apart) from each other. Boxer engines are relatively flat compared to inline or V-engines. Common examples of boxer engines are the Porsche 911 flat-6 and the Subaru flat-4.
 
Good question, are there any other Boxer cars in the game other than Subaru's and RUFs? It is nearly impossible to win of a CTR with a Subaru, yet using a RUF feels cheap.
 
There is also the Volkswagen Karmann-Ghia Coupe that you win in the Lupo Cup. I wonder if anyone's won Boxer Spirit with a full modded one lol.
 
I won the Boxer Spirit with the Subaru Impreza Rally Prototype Car.

It would be good if the game did actually give a full list of eligible cars, rather than listing a few then saying "etc". Good one. 👎
 
smellysocks12
Good question, are there any other Boxer cars in the game other than Subaru's and RUFs? It is nearly impossible to win of a CTR with a Subaru, yet using a RUF feels cheap.
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If you're trying to win with any stock Subaru, it's impossible.
I tuned my Impreza WRX STi to around 350-360hp with racing flywheel ,triple-plate clutch and S3 tires and won but it was hard as hell. The Rufs will pull away hard on the straights but they're slow in turns. It's a real challenge using an underpowered car. It get aroound 100 A-Spec points.
 
I used a standard Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01. Walk. Over.

And yes, a Boxer is a "horizontally opposed" engine, or a V where the angle between the cylinders is 180 degrees. You can find Boxer 4s in the Imprezas and the Karmann Ghia or Boxer 6s in the Rufs and the Subaru Legacy models.
 
Well, considering I won the series with a 100% record, that'd be "10".

Oh - you mean A-spec... Hang on...

40s and 30s.
 
Famine
Well, considering I won the series with a 100% record, that'd be "10".

Oh - you mean A-spec... Hang on...

40s and 30s.
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Well Done Famine Man,

Would Any Near Competant person be able to do it. ?

Cheers Tm 👍
 
Heh. After beating all the tarmac rallies with the Renault 5 Turbo Rally car (great racing at the Hard level in George V Paris VS. the Peugot), I've gotta try that with the Subaru rally car.
 
i belive the old bettle its also a boxer car,

the engine of RUF(porsche) its a "replica" from the olds bettles

i think the first porsches use the engine from the bettle
 
Don't forget that Ferarri used to use to use boxers. I think the Testarossa had a boxer. And if anyone is wondering why the Porsche Boxster is named that, it's because it has a boxer (flat 6) engine, on a roadster body. Kind of cheesy.
 
tm2003
Well Done Famine Man,

Would Any Near Competant person be able to do it. ?

Cheers Tm 👍
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i think so, i did it with '00 WRX STI tuned of course and didn't really have any problems.
i'm not even that good a racer yet...
 
smellysocks12
Good question, are there any other Boxer cars in the game other than Subaru's and RUFs? It is nearly impossible to win of a CTR with a Subaru, yet using a RUF feels cheap.
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The 22B puts up a good fight against those Rufs. I had a lightly modded 22B (chip, exhaust, suspension, lightweight 1, etc) and was able to beat the Boxer Spirit. It wasn't easy though.
 
I used the nice 22B from the used car lot, gave him better transmission, suspension, brakes an took some pounds off him^^ With good 300HP and a weight around 1 ton, my 22B could beat the RUFs relatively good. Got something around 100 points.
 
i did it easily in a Stock WRX with a wing on it.

But maybe i wasnt up against any RUF's i cant remeber

it was good for about 80 - 100 A spec points
 
RxQueen_2.5RS
The 22B puts up a good fight against those Rufs. I had a lightly modded 22B (chip, exhaust, suspension, lightweight 1, etc) and was able to beat the Boxer Spirit. It wasn't easy though.
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Ah i miss the 22B..where did you find one? Is it in the used car list?
 
the best boxer engined car would be my own alfa 33. I wish it would be in gt.

A subaru boxer is just an old alfa 16v anyway. see alfa got fed up with the boxer, so they could develope thier own twin-spark, gave the engine to subaru to keep, they bore it out to 1.8 and "tweek" and come out with less bhp. Japanese crap
 
Hitandrun
If your like me and dont know too much about cars then you might have this question:

Whats a Boxer engine and what makes it a Boxer engined car?

Oh, and although ive beat the Boxer Spirit series I was just wondering if someone had a car list for all the Boxer engine cars.
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Some pretty good Boxer Engine cars:

1. 1986 Porsche (RUF) BTR
2. 1997 Porsche (RUF) RGT
3. 1987 Porsche (RUF) CTR Yellow Bird
4. 1998 Porsche (RUF) CTR2
 
Ben_Lucas
the best boxer engined car would be my own alfa 33. I wish it would be in gt.

A subaru boxer is just an old alfa 16v anyway. see alfa got fed up with the boxer, so they could develope thier own twin-spark, gave the engine to subaru to keep, they bore it out to 1.8 and "tweek" and come out with less bhp. Japanese crap
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So it's not really peculiar that Subaru introduced the 'boxer' models way before Alfa did the 33?
 
Studentdriver
There is also the Volkswagen Karmann-Ghia Coupe that you win in the Lupo Cup. I wonder if anyone's won Boxer Spirit with a full modded one lol.
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Ah. the "poor man's porchse".. oops I mean RUF... I actually have two of these out in the yard and need to combine them into one working one. I couldnt imagine challenging a Porchse with one though heh... Its basically a cooler looking beetle with the same engine concept. Gotta love a car that you can change the clutch by opening the trunk and store things under the hood...
 
TurboJ
So it's not really peculiar that Subaru introduced the 'boxer' models way before Alfa did the 33?
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That they did.. Silly company is even trying to throw them in SUV's :scared:
Reminds me of that commerical where SUV"s are beasts...
 
As has been said the Boxer is the flat or hozinontally oposed engine where all the cylinders are horizontal with the ground. The main reason they were developed was because you can have large cylinder capacities in a relativley small engine (compared to a straight 4 or 6). You have more metal between the cylinders therefore they can be bored out larger. The boxers tend to have very short crank stroke wich means they pick up the revs very quickly. Another plus is that because the pistons are moving side to side rather than up and down they are less affected by gravity. ie when the detonation cylinder is moving downwards the power is not lost by lifting two other pistons up. You wouldnt think this was much of a factor but apparenly it is and a boxer engine is supposed to be 5-10 % more powerfull than an upright straight engine of the same cc also producing more torque. boxer engines are also noted as been the best for reliability. this is mostly thought due to the oil flow. Because all the working parts are lower down just above the oil sump, the oil pump works at a lower pressure. This means that old gaskets and seals arent under as much pressure. If you think of a large straight or v engine the oil may have to travel upwards of maybe 60cm or more. The pressure needed to do this is much more than the 25cm ish of the average boxer engine. Also what happens is that when the oil pump starts to wear or the strainer gets dirty the tops of "upright" engines become oil starved and wear much faster!

Thats my waffle!
 
thedeester1
As has been said the Boxer is the flat or hozinontally oposed engine where all the cylinders are horizontal with the ground. The main reason they were developed was because you can have large cylinder capacities in a relativley small engine (compared to a straight 4 or 6). You have more metal between the cylinders therefore they can be bored out larger. The boxers tend to have very short crank stroke wich means they pick up the revs very quickly. Another plus is that because the pistons are moving side to side rather than up and down they are less affected by gravity. ie when the detonation cylinder is moving downwards the power is not lost by lifting two other pistons up. You wouldnt think this was much of a factor but apparenly it is and a boxer engine is supposed to be 5-10 % more powerfull than an upright straight engine of the same cc also producing more torque. boxer engines are also noted as been the best for reliability. this is mostly thought due to the oil flow. Because all the working parts are lower down just above the oil sump, the oil pump works at a lower pressure. This means that old gaskets and seals arent under as much pressure. If you think of a large straight or v engine the oil may have to travel upwards of maybe 60cm or more. The pressure needed to do this is much more than the 25cm ish of the average boxer engine. Also what happens is that when the oil pump starts to wear or the strainer gets dirty the tops of "upright" engines become oil starved and wear much faster!

Thats my waffle!
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You forgot one other advantage of the Boxer layout, they have a much lower centre of gravity that an inline or standard V engine, generally giving a better handling balance to the car.

Subaru have used this great effect with the symetrical weight distribution concept of recent years.
 

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