Braking in GT5 is overrated.

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Enzo309
The instrument rev bar that blinks when to downshift also tells you when to brake , not that its the exact optimum braking point but its super close to that and you almost have nothing to think of for braking at all , which clearly ruins the experience of real racing because braking is a huge role in motorsports racing and a brake guide clearly doesn't exist and won't exist.

I know most begginers or even experienced drivers use this bar for obvious reasons. The first reason is the braking obviously , the second reason is that they are using Hood view (which also doesn't exist in reality) which obviously guides you how to shift you need it because you dont have a speedometer but its not just that , real racing doesnt have hood views or brake guides to make everything easier to live with.

Are there any plans of having an online restriction for the instruments??

If you dont know what an instrument is , go to practice or race and press start then click the option to hide instrument.
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I always thougt that light was for whrn to shift, and that it just was a idiot. Really focused on it
 
It's the sort of thing that won't make you faster, just like the driving line won't once you've reached a certain level, but it's all too easy to find yourself using it as the braking marker rather than an external marker.

It doesn't do any harm, but even Forza with its rewind and one-button driving doesn't have such a thing which cannot be turned off or disabled online.
 
People complain about everything, if you want real, go out and enter the racing world, don't play GT5.
 
The light is an aid but if you follow it you will be way to slow. Also, good racers at GT5 know the most important part of braking is controlling the brake pressure. Braking is not overrated, it's underrated!
 
I don't know why some people have such distain for this minor little thing. I actually found it extremely helpful in GT4 to learn a new car or track. It certainly is a hell of a lot better then having the driving line on. It's very easy to ignore if you don't like it as well. It's not 100% accurate but it helps. I wish PD would give the option to keep the gauges on and get rid of everything else on screen, would help for the standard cars.
 
I play in cockpit view (extra zoom) with no HUD or map at all. Once you've learned the track and car behavior, there's no need for extra information than the one you have while driving a real car. By the way, I found that racing online without any info makes it easier to stay focused on driving and relieves stress. I only miss the time gap indicator between cars, that could be useful to plan the race strategy in some cases. As I don't race enduro events, I don't worry about fuel consumption or tire indicators.
 
Like what the thread says , it doesn't blink at the optimum braking point but it's very close to that because it also blinks for downshift it's very close indeed

I know most drivers use it wether beginner or experienced drivers but
Neither do they pay attention to it but simply warns them when to brake.

There's no excuses for this but soon there will be an online restriction.

Oh and by the way it's easy to spot and rinse and repeat the optimum braking point with something that warns you around half a second before you do brake.

Every car in GT5 has different braking points and 99% of people online don't miss any of it.

Most of the neglections in this thread are excuses.

Learn the reality of motorsports racing.


But online restriction is all that it takes so there's no need to neglect this , obviously there's on and off :P
 
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UnionStrike
People complain about everything, if you want real, go out and enter the racing world, don't play GT5.
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Or, ask for a more realistic GT5. Problem solved.

bSUPERSPORT
But it can help anybody in certain situations, for example in heavy rain where your ability to judge a corner becomes diminished. Not to mention the gear which if incorrect, can make your race suffer.
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I don't want help. The gear indicator may or may not be useful, that doesn't matter to me. If I'm driving the Nring at night in the rain with Comfort Hard tires, it's my problem and I need to figure out when to brake. The only reason I dislike the indicator is because I can't turn it off. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it.
 
Credge
Nah, it's incredibly obvious and it occurs way, way, way before you should start braking.
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yep half a second before you need to break , it doesn't really matter wether it blinks way before because you can always spot the "gap" which is always around half a second before braking.
 
UnionStrike
People complain about everything, if you want real, go out and enter the racing world, don't play GT5.
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It's just an online restriction , Dont worry you can still have your brake warning on :)

Even I use it for different cars , but when it comes to Ferrari F1 which I use a lot its very artificial to brake artificially its nice or just to have a cockpit view alone is nice.
 
Enzo309
I know most begginers or even experienced drivers use this bar for obvious reasons. The first reason is the braking obviously , the second reason is that they are using Hood view (which also doesn't exist in reality) which obviously guides you how to shift you need it because you dont have a speedometer but its not just that , real racing doesnt have hood views or brake guides to make everything easier to live with.
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Want some cheese with that?

Enzo309
Are there any plans of having an online restriction for the instruments??
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I'd certainly hope not. Most good drivers almost completely ignore it anyways, so the only thing forcing a HUD setup on other players would do is alienate people new to the game, new to the track the race is on or new to the car they are driving.
 
Enzo309
Every car in GT5 has different braking points and 99% of people online don't miss any of it.
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Mostly because if you're any good as a driver you'll know the points after one or two laps anyway. The indicator is so badly off that those same 99% are highly likely the ones not using it, the remaining 1% rely on it and thus keep missing proper braking points.
 
Greycap
Mostly because if you're any good as a driver you'll know the points after one or two laps anyway. The indicator is so badly off that those same 99% are highly likely the ones not using it, the remaining 1% rely on it and thus keep missing proper braking points.
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I never said that it's a good indicator, I just said that it blinks so early that how fast you drive doesn't matter ~ it's going to blink sooner than you need to brake anyway.
 
The only way to ignore it is to turn the Instruments HUD off. Even if you think you aren't paying attention to it, you are. I really wish they'd let you turn it off, but it's been rather a few years, and like so many other common-sense things... probably never going to happen.

Unfortunately I find it rather odd trying to drive from bug-view without any instruments at all, and even more unfortunately I need to keep it on most of the time even in the cockpit as I need the throttle and brake meters on-screen so I can tell whether my aging pedals are working properly or not. Which would be fine if I could just turn off the stupid blinking number... and any other piece of the HUD I don't want to see... and set the opacity of what I DO want to see...
 
Morgoth_666
The only way to ignore it is to turn the Instruments HUD off. Even if you think you aren't paying attention to it, you are. I really wish they'd let you turn it off, but it's been rather a few years, and like so many other common-sense things... probably never going to happen.

Unfortunately I find it rather odd trying to drive from bug-view without any instruments at all, and even more unfortunately I need to keep it on most of the time even in the cockpit as I need the throttle and brake meters on-screen so I can tell whether my aging pedals are working properly or not. Which would be fine if I could just turn off the stupid blinking number... and any other piece of the HUD I don't want to see... and set the opacity of what I DO want to see...
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I would turn it off too if only i could see the dashboard meters of cockpit. However for standards it is a different story..
 
It always tells you to brake too early, you can turn it off in the options menu. It can be handy on new tracks though.
 
It's helpful on new tracks or when there is low visibility. Otherwise it's best to ignore it and use your own braking points.
 
Not sure why all the hatred towards the braking indicator. It comes in handy on many occasions on many tracks. There's no way anyone can perfectly judge the braking point for all 1000 cars (on varying tires/brakes) on specific turns. I'll use the massive straight on La Sarthe as an example. Most cars are completely maxed out speed-wise there which leads you directly into a tight turn at the end. That is one of the places i use the braking indicator. If i try to guess i'll most likely end up in the sand or the wall. The front straight on the Nurb GP/D is another.

For most parts of the track (after a lap or 2) I have a good feel for how to brake and what gear i should use. There's just some spots where it's important not to blow the turn by late braking or guess braking.
 
Zenkat
There's no way anyone can perfectly judge the braking point for all 1000 cars (on varying tires/brakes) on specific turns.
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It's easier than you think. Everything pretty much brakes the same thanks to simple brake/tire physics. So speed and downforce is all that matters.

Regardless, not being able to judge off the bat is the point. I, and other people, don't want to be told when to brake. We want to figure it out. And one can safely make a guess without ending up in the wall, not to mention an actual race has practice sessions to mitigate the issue of blind guessing your brake points in a heated race.

There's just some spots where it's important not to blow the turn by late braking or guess braking.
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We all get that. If the brake indicator were tweaked, it could certainly help one's laptimes. But the point is, it's unwanted help for a number of people. I don't care if everyone but me is using it in a race. I don't want to see it at all.
 
I learn to brake without it because I wasn't born upside-down and actually understand how to turn my car.

Err, sorry to anyone who DOES use it. That's just how I feel.
 
Exorcet
It's easier than you think. Everything pretty much brakes the same thanks to simple brake/tire physics. So speed and downforce is all that matters.

Regardless, not being able to judge off the bat is the point. I, and other people, don't want to be told when to brake. We want to figure it out. And one can safely make a guess without ending up in the wall, not to mention an actual race has practice sessions to mitigate the issue of blind guessing your brake points in a heated race.



We all get that. If the brake indicator were tweaked, it could certainly help one's laptimes. But the point is, it's unwanted help for a number of people. I don't care if everyone but me is using it in a race. I don't want to see it at all.
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Does this really need a thread? Hate to state the obvious here but if you dont like it, turn it off...

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The only reason why I use bumber cam is for the tachometer. I mean at first yeah I used it to get use to taking corners but now? Not at all. :)
 
Oddly I've had the indicator suggest a gear too HIGH until it's too late. It's like when you're already sliding off the track it's like "oh yeah...shift down again." Stupid, either way. The gear indicator is like the driving line. It's great, if you want to drive like Bob...
 

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