Braking in GT5 is overrated.

[CSLACR]

Of course if the goal here is to simply have the option to remove it, I don't think anyone could argue that.
Also whether looking at it or not, the blinking always catches the eye, the only way to not see it at all, as described above, is self-training.

But in the long run, whether we learn from the driving line, flashing indicator, or brake markers, what's the difference?
Either way we'll still learn the tracks and cars, this is just faster and easier.

So for the OP, I can understand you want the option, and that's fine. But why? If you've convinced yourself you'd do better against other racers you're kidding yourself, they all played the same game you have.

 

[georgiebest]

Realism.
So if we shouldn't use any game created brake markers ever, this must also mean we very rarely crash in any form, right? It's not very realistic to race around a track and crash 100 times learning it to hot lap and then use that knowledge to churn out uber-fast laps cleanly, is it?
I don't use the in-car view ever. And there's only one reason - it shakes.
I've driven and ridden in overly stiff cars over potholes racetracks cannot imagine, and I've never been unable to focus on the road, whereas in GT5, in an attempt to add realism, they make the cockpit shake, and the track becomes blurry.
That's the difference, I have a human neck and head, which have independent muscular control, so even if the car is vibrating/shaking/bouncing I can straighten most if not all of it out.
I don't have to push a button on the steering wheel to look right or left. I can also use a rear-view properly, because my eyes aren't limited to 27, 40, or even 55 inches of view.

1. Youtube GT with face cams, lets you turn the inside view by turning your head.
2. I said it would be better for them to do this, if you start by learning to use external brake markers, it sets good habits for the future. The game even advises you to use visual marks on and around the track in the licenses...
3. If you crash 100 times when trying to learn a track just because you're not using the blinking brake indicator, you're playing the wrong game. Go try Mario Kart.
4. Driving over a pot hole at 30mph is different to slamming on the brakes in a racing car travelling 180+ mph.
Looking at your post, I can tell you have never actually been in a race car experience, never mind driven one. You cannot independently move your neck to keep your head straight in a racing car, if you could move your neck that much you would get whiplash. You have big bulky harnesses and protectors to prevent your neck from moving, and you are strapped into the car. I'd like to see your neck muscles move in a harness designed to withstand up to 10G.

 

[replacement]

OP is way off. First, it doesn't "clearly ruin the experience" and second, NO experienced drivers use it for actual braking points...It doesn't ruin the experience because if you're using real braking points you won't even pay attention to it.

And give it up complaining that there's no "bumper" cam or hood view or whatever in real life. There's also no cockpit view where you're forced to look directly ahead with the exact field of view at all times (even if your head was strapped in place you could move your eyes!). To me that hood view is more realistic to what you can see and sense when driving in real life (unless maybe using multi-monitor or head tracking).

 

[phil_75]

I use the light because its hard to see whats ahead. Draw distance is horrible for a 32" tv... I always push it though.

What? GT5 has great draw distance, try playing F1 2010!!!

 

[ugabugaz]

OP is way off. First, it doesn't "clearly ruin the experience" and second, NO experienced drivers use it for actual braking points...It doesn't ruin the experience because if you're using real braking points you won't even pay attention to it.

And give it up complaining that there's no "bumper" cam or hood view or whatever in real life. There's also no cockpit view where you're forced to look directly ahead with the exact field of view at all times (even if your head was strapped in place you could move your eyes!). To me that hood view is more realistic to what you can see and sense when driving in real life (unless maybe using multi-monitor or head tracking).

That and in real life you can actually feel your car. Feel exactly what the tires are doing etc... Are the brakes locking up, how steep is that corner up ahead? G-forces and all. I personally only use the hood view as it provides the best racing position.

 

[CSLACR]

1. Youtube GT with face cams, lets you turn the inside view by turning your head.
2. I said it would be better for them to do this, if you start by learning to use external brake markers, it sets good habits for the future. The game even advises you to use visual marks on and around the track in the licenses...
3. If you crash 100 times when trying to learn a track just because you're not using the blinking brake indicator, you're playing the wrong game. Go try Mario Kart.
4. Driving over a pot hole at 30mph is different to slamming on the brakes in a racing car travelling 180+ mph.
Looking at your post, I can tell you have never actually been in a race car experience, never mind driven one. You cannot independently move your neck to keep your head straight in a racing car, if you could move your neck that much you would get whiplash. You have big bulky harnesses and protectors to prevent your neck from moving, and you are strapped into the car. I'd like to see your neck muscles move in a harness designed to withstand up to 10G.

This whole post is cute.
Apparently I drive around at 30mph and that's the only place potholes exist!

Looking at your post, I can tell you have never actually been in a race car experience, never mind driven one. You cannot independently move your neck to keep your head straight in a racing car, if you could move your neck that much you would get whiplash. You have big bulky harnesses and protectors to prevent your neck from moving, and you are strapped into the car. I'd like to see your neck muscles move in a harness designed to withstand up to 10G.

So you're saying racing drivers can't see straight?
The Cameras in race cars don't bounce as much as the view in GT5.

FYI, stock cars don't come with hans devices, nor racing harness's.
Feel free to show the stock Acura TL that bounces around and makes your vision blurry, I'll be waiting with a link to the eye doctor.

 

[Ghoa$t]

Using the indicators/aids in GT5 is the equivalent of riding a bicycle with training wheels attached, you're not going to win races if you rely on aids. The fast drivers don't use the brake/gear indicator, they memorize braking points.

As for the cockpit/bumper cam thing it boils down to preference, even if there were an option to limit online racing to cockpit view only, the race results would remain the same.

 

[CSLACR]

Using the indicators/aids in GT5 is the equivalent of riding a bicycle with training wheels attached, you're not going to win races if you rely on aids. The fast drivers don't use the brake/gear indicator, they memorize braking points.

As for the cockpit/bumper cam thing it boils down to preference, even if there were an option to limit online racing to cockpit view only, the race results would remain the same.

You're right.
Unfortunately sometimes people convince themselves otherwise. I'm not saying that's the OP's thought, but it wouldn't surprise me. There was a recent discussion about active steering, and the truth always comes down to whoever is fastest now, would still be the fastest with or without aids.

 

[Stigsblkcousin]

So basically the point of this thread is, "Noobs look at the indicator"???

Cue the elitism....

 

[Enzo309]

So basically the point of this thread is, "Noobs look at the indicator"???

Cue the elitism....

that's why its time to put it down with a restriction ^_^

 

[CSLACR]

I just drove the F2007 for the first time.
I'd like to see the OP use the brake indicator on that bad boy. Might actually be able to lose the races that way.