Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
Suck-up Starmer seems to have got his deal, so I guess all the flattery and bribery worked. Devil in the details of course.

Donald Trump has announced a trade deal between the UK and the US, saying the agreement is a “full and comprehensive one”.

He wrote on his social media website Truth Social:

"The agreement with the United Kingdom is a full and comprehensive one that will cement the relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom for many years to come. Because of our long time history and allegiance together, it is a great honor to have the United Kingdom as our FIRST announcement."
 
South Western Railways nationalised

Amongst the mirth of "Great British Railways seeing a return to nationalised railway services" (in most of England because TfW, ScotRail and a few others are exempt), am I one of the few saddos who sees the reporting as either biased or even just plain lazy? The following railway companies are already under direct government ownership:

Northern Trains
Southeastern
TransPennine Express
London North Eastern Railway

You're supposed to think that South Western Railways is the first area of the island being put under GBR control but it's actually just joining the other failed private operators that have needed the Department for Transport to step in as an "operator of last resort". Additionally, two more operators, c2c and Greater Anglia, are also heading for DfT and were going to any way. GBR, if its implementation goes ahead, won't be for another 2-3 years.

The first big franchise failure was National Express East Coast. The government stepped in in 2008, took over the service and by 2015 when the contract was retendered, the nationalised East Coast had had years of profitable and punctual success, having returned over £1 billion to the Treasury.

If it's a time to dunk on the principle of nationalised railways, I don't think seven private operators failing is a good way to go about it. These private operators agreeing to multi-year contracts and then pulling out when they can't be arsed isn't a ringing endorsement for capitalism with railway services. Whatever way railways should be managed and operated, it's quite clear that the current regional cartels don't work and haven't for 20+ years.
 
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am I one of the few saddos who sees the reporting as either biased or even just plain lazy?

Wait... you're not suggesting that the entirely trust worthy right wing press aren't accurately reporting on this blatant Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Corbynite Commie plot by two-tier, free-gear, might-be-queer Starmer to take away all our freedoms and send us back to the dark ages are you?

/s

Of course reporting is biased and lazy...
 
Wait... you're not suggesting that the entirely trust worthy right wing press aren't accurately reporting on this blatant Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Corbynite Commie plot by two-tier, free-gear, might-be-queer Starmer to take away all our freedoms and send us back to the dark ages are you?

/s

Of course reporting is biased and lazy...
A big deal was also made of South Western's first service under DfT control being a rail replacement bus. That exact same thing happened with the first train of the private era in 1996 - the 1am train from Fishguard to Paddington was a bus as far as Cardiff.
 
The things people will do for a bit of cheese. Cost of living crisis has hit hard.

 
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Ugh, but they're still trying to hold companies to account instead of individuals. I get that it's hard, but even relatively small gaol terms for directors and technical people deemed responsible would hopefully get them to think twice about what they were doing.

Probably not, because none of them expect to get caught. But in which case at least the specific people who have demonstrated that they are not safe to have wandering around in society would be put somewhere that they can't harm anyone else.
 
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