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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
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Panic on the streets of London.

Wait.. one of these kids is manager at JD sports? Explains a lot, and one that can afford an Apple device. Streets is mean in da ghettos.

Could be worse... could have been whitey's fighting whitey's at a football match.

#fighttehpwer
 
Restricted to the ghettos? How cute..

My concern is we will soon see scenes like this (LANGUAGE WARNING)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPhFLwsF_Aw

by more and more groups, for a different motive than the one portrayed in the video. The same will happen to Mosques by the Far Right. The above video doesn't appear to be a targeted anti-semitic attack (although members of the group are being investigated for anti-semitic language, and just look at those youtube comments), but I'm using it as an illustration of things to come in London.
 
British DJ Neil Fox has been charged with nine sex offences involving six people, of whom three were children.

Hopefully a straightforward DNA test should resolve the matter, according to genetics expert Dr. Fox.

 
Didn't have Foxy in my nonce pool at all. He's a Capital Radio guy, not a Beeb guy. Very left field.
 
Maccer_42
Britain - The Official Thread for Paedophile and Muslim discussion :lol: I swear those two topics have been the main points of discussion in here for like the last 2 years now.
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If those things are really your biggest problems, then you are probably doing rather well.:lol:

On the other hand, is your statement really statistically true? Perhaps it is, since there are other threads for irritants such as Scottish autonomy, foreign policy fiascos and the economy.
 
Boris is in the mix for DavCam's replacement after the election-after-next. DavCam has announced a number of potential successors but none will grab the populist-nationalist-buffoon vote quite like Boris.

 
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Parliament is breaking up for the upcoming election. With hours to spare on this last day the Government tabled a motion to alter the procedure for electing the speaker of the Commons, to go from a public ballot to a secret ballot. The justification for this was to better protect members of the House who are opposed to, or voted against the election of, the speaker.

The cloak and dagger nature of this motion, which was to be undertaken by mostly Government MPs kept being to discuss 'election policy' whilst opposition MPs were elsewhere, has been immediately susses to be an attempt to ouse current speaker John Bercow. Bercow, a former Conservative MP, is hugely disliked by frontline Conservatives but was graceful enough to preside over the day's motions, which included two small filibusters to give opposition MPs time to return.

Conservative MP Charles Walker, who in 2011 was part of a committee which investigated the idea of a secret ballot, said he felt betrayed that his party and the Government had used his unused reports to try and dislodge the speaker, got a standing ovation from the opposition after a speech in which he scathed the senior politicians involved.

The motion was in fact defeated 228-202 and it is an ignominious end to the parliamentary career of House leader William Hague, who tabled the motion. Beware the ides of March.

Blah, blah, long and winded things a lot of people probably don't care about but I certainly found this interesting. If the election of the speaker is a secret ballot, surely that would make it easier for governments to undermine and replace them? All backstabbing and such. It's funny how the current one is disliked so much by his own (former) party which holds a plurality of seats.

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In other news I have my confirmation as a postal voter for Alyn & Deeside. One less vote for UKIP on my old doorstep, for sure.
 
Liquid
Blah, blah, long and winded things a lot of people probably don't care about but I certainly found this interesting. If the election of the speaker is a secret ballot, surely that would make it easier for governments to undermine and replace them? All backstabbing and such. It's funny how the current one is disliked so much by his own (former) party which holds a plurality of seats.
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Bercow has been very unpopular amongst the ConDems for trying to stick to the rules of the house and prevent "either" party from bulldozing. My favourite quote is "The Prime Minister has finished, and he can take it from me that he's finished!".

DavCam had a face like a slapped arse after that :D
 
Watching the election "debate" tonight, does anyone else feel that Paxman is being hugely unfair on Miliband? He was quite nice to Cameron moving on very quickly between topics and not picking up on weaknesses. However for Miliband he is asking obscure questions (how many people can this country sustain? (and not accepting the fact that it is impossible to give an exact figure)), making unfair comments and forcing Miliband to defend himself, whereas he let Cameron talk almost uninterupted about policy.

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After reading a little more about Paxman I'm not particularly surprised he failed to be impartial.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...s-tories-asked-him-to-be-an-mp_n_6924980.html


(To note I am not a labour supporter, I prefer conservatives economic approach in this election, however would say I support neither party.)
 
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lbsf1
Watching the election "debate" tonight, does anyone else feel that Paxman is being hugely unfair on Miliband? He was quite nice to Cameron moving on very quickly between topics and not picking up on weaknesses. However for Miliband he is asking obscure questions (how many people can this country sustain? (and not accepting the fact that it is impossible to give an exact figure)), making unfair comments and forcing Miliband to defend himself, whereas he let Cameron talk almost uninterupted about policy.

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After reading a little more about Paxman I'm not particularly surprised he failed to be impartial.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...s-tories-asked-him-to-be-an-mp_n_6924980.html


(To note I am not a labour supporter, I prefer conservatives economic approach in this election, however would say I support neither party.)
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I think he was pretty equally hard on both of them. I'd say he certainly didn't rush through Cameron's questions mainly because Dave was dodging most of them, but Paxman picked him up on it nearly every time. Both interviews had him attacking the personal and policy sides too. Yep Paxman is a Tory but I don't think it mattered one bit last night - you certainly couldn't have guessed from last night alone in my opinion.

Not that it matters that much really - I think in 40 days this "battle" will probably be forgotten. It would have been so much better if it was a one-to-one debate.........bloody Cameron!
 
So the Tories election pledge is full employment by 2020. 'A job for everyone who wants one'.

Of course most of these jobs are available now.... if you don't mind zero hour, minimum wage, often disgusting or demeaning, slave labour work.

As one commenter stated, "I'm sure North Korea has full employment to" :lol:
 
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Robin.
So the Tories election pledge is full employment by 2020. 'A job for everyone who wants one'.

Of course most of these jobs are available now.... if you don't mind zero hour, minimum wage, often disgusting or demeaning, slave labour work.

As one commenter stated, "I'm sure North Korea has full employment to" :lol:
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I actually know a couple of people who work for less than minimum wage (which is obviously illegal), and they don't receive any kind of benefits either.

Just makes you wonder how widespread that may be...
 
Robin.
So the Tories election pledge is full employment by 2020. 'A job for everyone who wants one'.

Of course most of these jobs are available now.... if you don't mind zero hour, minimum wage, often disgusting or demeaning, slave labour work.

As one commenter stated, "I'm sure North Korea has full employment to" :lol:
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Full employment isn't 0% unemployment. As I recall from my highschool days it's usually around 5%. There will always be some people in transition and some people simply unwilling to work. Did the Tories also promise to only create disgusting, demeaning, slave labour work because that would be a very bizarre and unpopular campaign promise.
 
Johnnypenso
Did the Tories also promise to only create disgusting, demeaning, slave labour work because that would be a very bizarre and unpopular campaign promise.
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It would be academic, they're very unlikely to hold sole power when Parliament reconvenes.

Incidentally, we're now a land of unrepresented people, the Queen's in charge for now. Damned kraut.
 
There I am enjoying a stroll down 2002-2006 lane watching some old telly programmes, when there's that awkward moment when Harry Hill and his entire studio audience are dressed as Britain's most notorious paedophile and sex offender.

2:12

Oh, retrospect.

 
@Liquid - Ouch, that's a retro pain.

So, it appears I live in somewhat of a marginal seat. Last election saw Labour lose 6.6% and Conservative gain 5.5% (Labour still won with 36.3% versus 30.4%). Which leaves me somewhat in a predicament as I have no interest in voting Tory or Labour.

I also won't be voting Plaid due to their position on Trident, or UKIP and TUSC for obvious reasons. Which leaves me with Pirate or Lib Dem. Now, I did vote Lib Dem in 2010 and was subsequently betrayed on tuition fees, but my stance on tuition fees has since changed and I support the increase in tuition fees (and the accompanying increase in repayment terms).

So, looks like I have a choice. Burn a vote on Pirate (though potentially save someone their deposit), or vote Lib Dem who might be the main losers to the growth of UKIP/Plaid in my constituency. But overall will probably be the king-makers.

[/Thinking Aloud]
 
ExigeEvan
@Liquid - Ouch, that's a retro pain.

So, it appears I live in somewhat of a marginal seat. Last election saw Labour lose 6.6% and Conservative gain 5.5% (Labour still won with 36.3% versus 30.4%). Which leaves me somewhat in a predicament as I have no interest in voting Tory or Labour.

I also won't be voting Plaid due to their position on Trident, or UKIP and TUSC for obvious reasons. Which leaves me with Pirate or Lib Dem. Now, I did vote Lib Dem in 2010 and was subsequently betrayed on tuition fees, but my stance on tuition fees has since changed and I support the increase in tuition fees (and the accompanying increase in repayment terms).

So, looks like I have a choice. Burn a vote on Pirate (though potentially save someone their deposit), or vote Lib Dem who might be the main losers to the growth of UKIP/Plaid in my constituency. But overall will probably be the king-makers.

[/Thinking Aloud]
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Or turn in a blank ballot so that you give no-one a mandate.
 
ExigeEvan
That's obviously an option, however the Pirate Party have a pretty good coverage of things I'd consider lower on my priority list.
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Nevertheless, a valid vote cast for a joke party won't fix the problem of grossly unbalanced elections. Nor will not bothering to turn up. But going to cast your vote and voting for no-one has to be counted - and I'd love to see a constituency getting "no-one" up in the top four.
 
Famine
Nevertheless, a valid vote cast for a joke party won't fix the problem of grossly unbalanced elections. Nor will not bothering to turn up. But going to cast your vote and voting for no-one has to be counted - and I'd love to see a constituency getting "no-one" up in the top four.
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I'm not sure I'd qualify the Pirate Party as a joke party. They're certainly not comparable to the Monster Raving Loony Party, The Above and Beyond Party (that somewhat agree with your stance, but do it the wrong way) or the "Make Politicians History" party.

@Liquid - But there's an option... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_and_Beyond_Party
 
*Looks up Pirate Party on Wiki*

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Orange - National seats
Red - EU Parliament seats
Purple - Local seats
Dark Blue - Registered for elections
Light blue - Registered in some US states
Teal - Unregistered but active

Iceland and Czechia actually have Pirate Party members in their national chambers. Huh.
 
ExigeEvan
I'm not sure I'd qualify the Pirate Party as a joke party.
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They seem to be a largely single-issue party with a very small number of candidates, a small number of members and an extremely small number of votes, going hand-in-hand with no serious intent to be elected.
Liquid
Looks up Pirate Party on Wiki
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Now look up the Pirate Party UK.

9 candidates at the last General Election averaging less than 200 votes each. 5 candidates to be fielded this time round. Monster Raving Loonies fielded 27 and got 300 votes each - though I don't know their 2015 plans.
 

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