Bumper view is it superior?

[ziadjs]

the rear view mirror is one thing I can think of, another would be the unobstructed view of the track, but again it seems a bit unnatural and artificially low to me, what do you think?

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

Personal preference
Many feel the bumper view as really intense. I agree, but for me it´s just not the best overview about WHAT is happening around me on track. Besides I'm not "feeling" the car really good in this angle.
I prefer the hood view, sometimes cockpit.

 

[Trusevich]

Bumper cam view is basically a driver's eye level view but with all the extraneous view-blocking graphics taken off - bonnets, struts, dashboards, wing mirrors etc., so what you're left with is what every driver wants - an unobstructed field of vision.

It's also the lowest view - the closest to the track - so it gives a far greater impression of speed than the other views. And speed is the point of the game, no?

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

Bumper cam view is basically a driver's eye level view but with all the extraneous view-blocking graphics taken off - bonnets, struts, dashboards, wing mirrors etc., so what you're left with is what every driver wants - an unobstructed field of vision.

It's also the lowest view - the closest to the track - so it gives a far greater impression of speed than the other views. And speed is the point of the game, no?

Some drivers are quite ok with "view-blocking" objects which might help for orientating. For some not only speed matters, but realistic feel, too 👍

It might be a driver´s eye level view, specially of these ones

http://www.fillmoregazette.com/spor...yhill-festival-speed-igsa-world-championships

 

[Aldajjal_2010]

I've always used this view in the Gran Turismo series. In GT5 P i started using cockpit view and i still do. In other words: i hate standard cars

 

[Mopatop]

I use the bumper cam but I much prefer Forza's bonnet cam. I find it gives a more natural eye line. When I'm driving in my car I can see the bonnet so I think it's more realistic.

For me either view is essential to good driving because you get a much, much better impression of the pitch, roll and yaw of the car.

 

[mjh73]

bumper cam is by far the best in my opinion, you feel more a part of the game!

 

[mekonrider]

It's too low to be eye level. Cockpit only for me every since GTR on the PC came out. I just find a totally unrestricted view too unrealistic.

 

[dude2106]

For laptimes i use bumper cam, the only exception is FGT and X2010, because with "bonnet" view i can see exactly where the tyres are on the road.
For serious and hard races i use bonnet view because it gives me the best view over the track, and what people are doing ahead of me.
For fun racing and messing around i use cockpit view, if i can. If not i use bonnet view.

 

[Milldrum]

I start online races in full car mode so I don't hit others through lack of vision. As soon as everyone spreads out a little, bumper.

Normal Aspec bumper. I can still tell when tail is sliding etc.

 

[Trusevich]

It's too low to be eye level.

I'm sure someone on here did a study and concluded that bumper view is actually the same as a driver's eye view. They had computer mock-ups and it all seemed straight forward proof that it was driver's eye-level.

I just find a totally unrestricted view too unrealistic.

Yet you'll happily play this game with a controller/scaled-down wheel in your hands? Indoors? On a TV screen? Where's the 'realism' there?

Footnote: I don't give a fig about realism. I just wanna go faster, pussycat. Bumper view allows me to do that, or at least feel like I'm doing that.

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

I'm sure someone on here did a study and concluded that bumper view is actually the same as a driver's eye view. They had computer mock-ups and it all seemed straight forward proof that it was driver's eye-level.



Yet you'll happily play this game with a controller/scaled-down wheel in your hands? Indoors? On a TV screen? Where's the 'realism' there?

Footnote: I don't give a fig about realism. I just wanna go faster, pussycat. Bumper view allows me to do that, or at least feel like I'm doing that.

Don´t get me wrong buddy, but I'd appreciate to get a link on this study, else it didn't happen

And I'd say you won´t need to get personal since no one got. I think we all can understand that finding the "real" view in GT5 wouldn´t end this debate for weeks. So we all should be able to let our personal preference do the judge 👍

And yes, there is a difference between feeling to go fast and going fast at all...

 

[Trusevich]

Don´t get me wrong buddy, but I'd appreciate to get a link on this study, else it didn't happen

Fair enough:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=4048645

And I'd say you won´t need to get personal since no one got. I think we all can understand that finding the "real" view in GT5 wouldn´t end this debate for weeks. So we all should be able to let our personal preference do the judge

Of course. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for me. I can accept that. 👍

And yes, there is a difference between feeling to go fast and going fast at all...

Yep, feeling like you're going fast is more important than actually going fast. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as go-karts!

 

[ziadjs]

it bothers me that I can only see a small part of the rear view mirror in the cockpit view, where is the realism in this 👎 but some cars just have great interiors to appreciate like the McLaren F1, I also find the shift lights on the steering wheel quite useful in some cars.

 

[priesty_lfc]

Personally for me its all about cockpit cam,

I can see why bumber cam maybe faster however I find I have less control if the car starts to slide.

 

[brambos]

The field of view of your widescreen television is a lot less than the field of view of your own eyes, not to mention the utter lack of peripheral vision. Ergo: cockpit view is neither realistic nor practical.

So, bumper view is much more realistic than cockpit view. Pretty pictures notwithstanding.

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

Fair enough:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=4048645



Of course. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for me. I can accept that. 👍



Yep, feeling like you're going fast is more important than actually going fast. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as go-karts!

Thanks for the link 👍 Though the OP says the view of the bumper and bonnet cam seems to be the same just with/without the objects, post #55 doesn´t seem to be totally convinced

For me, bumper cam always feels so low. Wouldn´t be able to imagine this should be the angle view of you/me driving a car. Curious...

Next thing is, I really don´t know how wide the car´s nose is when driving bumper view. Is it the same width like your tv´s display? Happened more often that I hit something on the inner side of the turn, cause I didn´t see how much space is left sideways.
In the end, this all might come down to how someone´s getting used to it.

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

The field of view of your widescreen television is a lot less than the field of view of your own eyes, not to mention the utter lack of peripheral vision. Ergo: cockpit view is neither realistic nor practical.

So, bumper view is much more realistic than cockpit view. Pretty pictures notwithstanding.

If we´re talking about the eye´s field of view determining how realistic a racing game is, then even a bumper view considered highly realistic by yourself, is just another form of simulating reality. Conclusio: You´re not doing more than reflecting your own opinion

 

[e-racer]

I only use two views - bumper view and cockpit view. I only use bumper view when I really don't like the cockpit view, or when I'm slumming it in a standard car that doesn't have it. Before I got a wheel, I liked the chase cam, but it feels so wrong with a wheel it's not even funny.

 

[DC-Z]

Having always used the exterior view and having had relative success, i've had to recently adapt to the bumper view for the academy and can confirm that it is faster(in a tt environment for sure). I still go back to the exterior view in a-spec and even when racing online.

 

[chuyler1]

I am 100% bumper cam, even in premium cars. It's pretty easy to tell what the car is doing and whether you are hitting your apexes. However I like the sound of the engine and other sound effects from inside the cockpit better.

 

[skylinefx]

The only reason I don't use the bumper cam because I hate how it faces down when braking...

 

[brambos]

If we´re talking about the eye´s field of view determining how realistic a racing game is, then even a bumper view considered highly realistic by yourself, is just another form of simulating reality. Conclusio: You´re not doing more than reflecting your own opinion

True, but after driving many dozens of different cars in real life, I can tell you that generally the unobstructed view of bumpercam is much more what I perceive when driving a car than the porthole view of cockpit cam.

Have you ever consciously looked at your steeringwheel (or your hands) when driving a car? I haven't - yet in cockpitview the thing is constantly there, drawing my attention to it.

 

[Hastatus]

The bumper cam is like a FPV if you were the car instead of a driver.

 

[defaultoasis]

I use chase view, all the time!

 

[chuyler1]

bumper cam has the best speedometer and tach. it is large and easy to read. If you drive manual, you can watch it without staring at it to know when to shift (once you are familiar with a car you'll probably shift by sound, but if you switch things up you need a visual cue for when to shift)

bumper cam has the best rear view mirror.

 

[Yev]

Bumper cam is the best one to use.
Roof cam is also great.

 

[GT_Die_Hard]

I often use roofcam, because it feels just like im in direct contact with the car. Sometimes i use the all-car-cam to see my beautiful 787B stealthcar and watching out for people online not to crash into it.

 

[PiRacingChamp]

I use it, because of the distance from my seat to my 52" display. However, as stated, it is personal preference, and no one view is correct.

 

[nawfal]

I think gt4's view with the hood showing and having the bumper cam hud is still my favorite for standards...too bad it isn't there anymore.
I use cockpit view for anything premium unless its too obstructive