Busted! Look out, I'm a bad bad person ...

[LoudMusic]

So last night I had to pick up a friend at the airport at roughly midnight. We got back to my town around 1am. I exited to the offramp and came up to the traffic light to make a left over the bridge and into town. There was a person sitting at a red light waiting to make the same left. Having made this same late night journey a multituide of times I know that the trigger for the light is pretty much useless. You can end up sitting there for minutes. It's 1am, the three of us in the car are tired and want to be home, other than the car in front there is no one in sight. Often times I just go after waiting ten or fifteen seconds.

Well as I approached I knew this was the case so I gave myself room to go to the right around the vehicle (which had its right signal on in the left-turn lane ...) but still came to a complete stop and waited my standard few seconds to make sure no one was coming on the cross street. Then I went right through the Yeild and hung a hard left to go over the Interstate and into town.

Somewhere on the other side of the bridge I get the blue lights. Woo. I glanced at my speedo - nothing wrong there. I glanced at the second light I went through, still green so probably good there. Maybe I've got a defective car part and he's going to razz me about it.

Nope, I proceed to get a ticket for "Running a red light". But he wasn't quick to give me the ticket. He asked me three times during a fifteen minute conversation ...

"You been to da club tonight?"

"No. Airport. Little Rock."

"Been drinkin?"

"No. Airport. Little Rock."

"Whyz yo car all fogged up?"

"Moisture?"

"hmmmm"

So guys, what do I say to the judge? I'm not taking a ticket for this crap. I figure I can say that I didn't run a red light because the only light I went though was green. If he wanted to give me a rediculous ticket it should have been for "evading traffic signals" - the same as cutting through a parking lot to get past one.

Quite frankly I do this all the time. I'm out driving past midnight at least once a week. After midnight I treat red traffic lights as two-way stop signs. It's retarded to sit by yourself in the middle of the night and wait for a damn green bulb to turn on.

 

[pimp racer]

So last night I had to pick up a friend at the airport at roughly midnight. We got back to my town around 1am. I exited to the offramp and came up to the traffic light to make a left over the bridge and into town. There was a person sitting at a red light waiting to make the same left. Having made this same late night journey a multituide of times I know that the trigger for the light is pretty much useless. You can end up sitting there for minutes. It's 1am, the three of us in the car are tired and want to be home, other than the car in front there is no one in sight. Often times I just go after waiting ten or fifteen seconds.

Well as I approached I knew this was the case so I gave myself room to go to the right around the vehicle (which had its right signal on in the left-turn lane ...) but still came to a complete stop and waited my standard few seconds to make sure no one was coming on the cross street. Then I went right through the Yeild and hung a hard left to go over the Interstate and into town.

Somewhere on the other side of the bridge I get the blue lights. Woo. I glanced at my speedo - nothing wrong there. I glanced at the second light I went through, still green so probably good there. Maybe I've got a defective car part and he's going to razz me about it.

Nope, I proceed to get a ticket for "Running a red light". But he wasn't quick to give me the ticket. He asked me three times during a fifteen minute conversation ...

"You been to da club tonight?"

"No. Airport. Little Rock."

"Been drinkin?"

"No. Airport. Little Rock."

"Whyz yo car all fogged up?"

"Moisture?"

"hmmmm"

So guys, what do I say to the judge? I'm not taking a ticket for this crap. I figure I can say that I didn't run a red light because the only light I went though was green. If he wanted to give me a rediculous ticket it should have been for "evading traffic signals" - the same as cutting through a parking lot to get past one.

Quite frankly I do this all the time. I'm out driving past midnight at least once a week. After midnight I treat red traffic lights as two-way stop signs. It's retarded to sit by yourself in the middle of the night and wait for a damn green bulb to turn on.

THat sucks! How much is the ticket? Meaning how much do you have to pay? I think its like 78 bucks right?

 

[LoudMusic]

THat sucks! How much is the ticket? Meaning how much do you have to pay? I think its like 78 bucks right?

I haven't even checked yet. Probably something like that. A friend of mine got a ticket for running a stop sign when we were in high school. The damn thing was two hundred and eightteen dollars. I was shocked. And it was his first driving offence.

 

[ExigeEvan]

It is kinda shakey territory there.

Anyway, I thought the rules in America were if you were on red and no cars were coming you could go? Atleast that is what happened when we went to Florida.

 

[rollazn]

Ha-ha. Your screw'ed.

 

[LoudMusic]

It is kinda shakey territory there.

Anyway, I thought the rules in America were if you were on red and no cars were coming you could go? Atleast that is what happened when we went to Florida.

You can make a right turn on a red light, but that's not exactly what I was doing ... (:

 

[pimp racer]

I haven't even checked yet. Probably something like that. A friend of mine got a ticket for running a stop sign when we were in high school. The damn thing was two hundred and eightteen dollars. I was shocked. And it was his first driving offence.

$218 bucks for running a stop sign! DAMN! What state is this in?

 

[Pako]

I totally agree that we should be able to decide when a law that is there for our safety is no longer necessary. Unfortuneately that's not how it works. I saw a guy pull up to a red light, look, and go just this morning....and just continued to putt along his merry way, completly unaware of his traffic violation. So yeah caugh up the dough. I bet you wait the extra minute the next time, eh?

BTW - you should make your friend help pay the ticket!

 

[pimp racer]

I totally agree that we should be able to decide when a law that is there for our safety is no longer necessary. Unfortuneately that's not how it works. I saw a guy pull up to a red light, look, and go just this morning....and just continued to putt along his merry way, completly unaware of his traffic violation. So yeah caugh up the dough. I bet you wait the extra minute the next time, eh?

BTW - you should make your friend help pay the ticket!

LMAO! Good idea Pako. BUt if it was something like 78 bucks then hell just pay for it and Biatch with the judge but if its something like 218 bucks like your friend's ticket then ask your friend to pay for it and Biacth with the judge. Just playing. But still Biatch with the Judge.

*EDIT* Biatch got censored out.

 

[LoudMusic]

$218 bucks for running a stop sign! DAMN! What state is this in?

Arkansas. I told him it sounded high and he should question it but I don't know what he did about that. I'd bet he just paid it and went on with life. Since then he's become a very authority-confrontive individual. He's had a few "run ins" with the law that turned out to be not-so-good. He spent the night in jail in some po-dunk town because a friend of his got a speeding ticket in his car months before. It wasn't even him and they put him in jail until he turned over the friend. I mean, what the hell is that all about? I told him to sue but again I don't think he did anything. That story has a long funny part ... here, I'll tell it (:

He was in jail with some crack head and the two kind of became friends. Well they both had kind of low bails set but neither had enough to get themself out. My friend had money in the bank he could get from an ATM but no one to go get it for him since he was in this POS little town in backwoods Arkansas in the middle of the night. The crack head had a couple hundred bucks but his bail was more than he had. So the crack head, not knowing my friend before they met eachother in JAIL, gives all his money to my friend to pay my friend's bail. My friend then went to the ATM and got money to get the crack head out of jail. Very cool story. It's awesome what kind of trust relationships you can find in dire situations.

But that doesn't help me with this rediculous traffic ticket.

 

[LoudMusic]

I totally agree that we should be able to decide when a law that is there for our safety is no longer necessary. Unfortuneately that's not how it works. I saw a guy pull up to a red light, look, and go just this morning....and just continued to putt along his merry way, completly unaware of his traffic violation. So yeah caugh up the dough. I bet you wait the extra minute the next time, eh?

BTW - you should make your friend help pay the ticket!

Man, I'm going to keep doing that every time I come to a light. In fact I'm going to tell the judge to have the chief of police station a police officer at every single traffic light in town to catch me doing it next time.

The sucky thing is, this is the same friend I drove back from JGTC (27 hours in the car) with and he got an outrageous speeding ticket in Oklahoma for doing 80 in a 70 with ... you guest it, no one around. So I'm not about to ask him for money.

 

[pimp racer]

Arkansas. I told him it sounded high and he should question it but I don't know what he did about that. I'd bet he just paid it and went on with life. Since then he's become a very authority-confrontive individual. He's had a few "run ins" with the law that turned out to be not-so-good. He spent the night in jail in some po-dunk town because a friend of his got a speeding ticket in his car months before. It wasn't even him and they put him in jail until he turned over the friend. I mean, what the hell is that all about? I told him to sue but again I don't think he did anything. That story has a long funny part ... here, I'll tell it (:

He was in jail with some crack head and the two kind of became friends. Well they both had kind of low bails set but neither had enough to get themself out. My friend had money in the bank he could get from an ATM but no one to go get it for him since he was in this POS little town in backwoods Arkansas in the middle of the night. The crack head had a couple hundred bucks but his bail was more than he had. So the crack head, not knowing my friend before they met eachother in JAIL, gives all his money to my friend to pay my friend's bail. My friend then went to the ATM and got money to get the crack head out of jail. Very cool story. It's awesome what kind of trust relationships you can find in dire situations.

But that doesn't help me with this rediculous traffic ticket.

I should have known it was Arkansas! Little Rock! DER! Oh well. Good story there.

 

[livemusic]

We can´t do this in my town, because we have radars. If you pass a red light, you´ll get a ticket in the mail soon.

 

[pimp racer]

We can´t do this in my town, because we have radars. If you pass a red light, you´ll get a ticket in the mail soon.

Just like in England?

Man, I'm going to keep doing that every time I come to a light. In fact I'm going to tell the judge to have the chief of police station a police officer at every single traffic light in town to catch me doing it next time.

The sucky thing is, this is the same friend I drove back from JGTC (27 hours in the car) with and he got an outrageous speeding ticket in Oklahoma for doing 80 in a 70 with ... you guest it, no one around. So I'm not about to ask him for money.

Ha this reminds me. My dad is a really good driver with alot of experience. BUt anyways his average speed is about 60 MPH anywhere! THe fastest he has gone was like 90 in ATL when we were there to go do some business and I heard my cousin was there and we had the day off because of Hurricane warning. ( NOt Ivan ) So I just decided to tag along for the ride in hope of seeing some nice cars which infact I did. But anways my dad got a ticket once for doing about 76 MPH in a 65 I think and they didnt really do anything except just make him come to court or whatever and pay like 140 something bucks.

This also reminds me of two years ago when my dad got I think his first warning at like 12 in the night since we had to reach Texas or Oklohama for a wedding or something he was pulled over for speeding and then since he said if he gets caught speeding again he would get a ticket so he handed the wheel over to my uncle who later got caught speeding! He too got a warning I think. THis all in under 20 minutes. We got pulled over! Then we made it back safely except a trucker ran a COW over! We just asked the dude if he needed help and then went on.

 

[Giancarlo]

Well according to your drawing, you have all the reason to get a ticket; making a right turn in a left lane? Are you sure it wasn't left-turn only?

 

[Emohawk]

78$? Man, that's cheap. I've got a court date in a month for a 500$ ticket I got (A YEAR AGO) for accidently fishtailing in the rain on an empty road at 2 am.

 

[pimp racer]

78$? Man, that's cheap. I've got a court date in a month for a 500$ ticket I got (A YEAR AGO) for accidently fishtailing in the rain on an empty road at 2 am.

No thats not how much it is I was just estimating thats about it becuase my Drivers ED teahcer was talking about something like this. Plus it is probably different in every state!

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Can't you get your drivers license taken away for that?

 

[pimp racer]

Can't you get your drivers license taken away for that?

For running a red light? Probably not if its the first or second time. But if its a habit or something then I am betting you will get it taken away.

 

[Blake]

Ha this reminds me. My dad is a really good driver with alot of experience. BUt anyways his average speed is about 60 MPH anywhere! THe fastest he has gone was like 90 in ATL when we were there to go do some business and I heard my cousin was there and we had the day off because of Hurricane warning. ( NOt Ivan ) So I just decided to tag along for the ride in hope of seeing some nice cars which infact I did. But anways my dad got a ticket once for doing about 76 MPH in a 65 I think and they didnt really do anything except just make him come to court or whatever and pay like 140 something bucks.

This also reminds me of two years ago when my dad got I think his first warning at like 12 in the night since we had to reach Texas or Oklohama for a wedding or something he was pulled over for speeding and then since he said if he gets caught speeding again he would get a ticket so he handed the wheel over to my uncle who later got caught speeding! He too got a warning I think. THis all in under 20 minutes. We got pulled over! Then we made it back safely except a trucker ran a COW over! We just asked the dude if he needed help and then went on.

That reminds me of when my Dad and I were in Croatia, a new highway had just been built and there was no-one much on it, we saw maybe 5 people on a 100km stretch of Highway. The speed limit was a 130kmh, the avaerage traffic speed was about 190, Dad was doing 200 most of the way .

If the cops were their they could have had a field day!

Blake

 

[Bollocks#999]

Mate that blows, big time, he's sitting there (assuming it was the cop car in the wrong turning lane) and then nails you for not wanting to wait an eternity for the lights to change, Personally, I do exactly the same thing, Im not waiting a half hour, when there is no traffic that late at night

Recently Ive been booked twice in a month for speeding, T.S you may and I would tend to agree

Both times, this'll make ya's laugh, was by the same Copper
What irks me though, (we drive on the other side of the road to you American lads) I was in the overtaking lane, passing another car when I got caught

First time I had no chance, he was sitting on the far left of the road, in a driveway, just over the crest of a hill, as Im passing the other car, I had no chance of seeing him, this is in no way trying to lower the road toll as the Victorian police claim to be doing, but purely revenue raising

The second time I was just to slow to pick him up and got nailed


In my time Ive been driving Ive learnt this:

"The police are always right, you are wrong" and god help you if you choose to argue the point

While Im at it, I was recently fined for using a toll way without paying, I had payed the toll, but the people that run the show "had no record of my payment" so I had to produce my infringment notice, a copy of my reciepts and a cover letter explaining my self, and I was the one that was in the right, go fugure

Good luck with your court case LM I reckon youre gonna need it 👍

 

[Solid Lifters]

Laws are made to protect people. We have traffic signals to protect people from crashing into each other. We made it simple to follow. Red light means stop and wait for traffic to be cleared, yellow means prepare to stop for traffic and green means you may proceed if the traffic is clear. This works great and keeps us safe. It's also very simple to follow.

But what if you come to a red light, and there is no traffic to wait for? Does that mean you have to wait there for the signal light to turn green? Logic says, "No, of course not. The whole point of the red light is to prevent people from crashing into each other. Since you are the only driver on the road, you can proceed through the intersection if it is cleared. You may treat it as if it was a stop sign."

But, there are cities who extort money from the citizens any way they can. The see the law as a way to gain finances. Break a law, get a fine. They see laws just one way. They were made to be enforced. They don't care what else they were there for. Take this story for example;

A man was stopped at a red signal light. A car approached from behind without stopping. The car was going to hit the man stopped at the light. The man then moves through the intersection, and avoids being hit from behind. He moved through knowing there were no other drivers around. The vehicle from behind slams on the brakes, and stops in the middle of the intersection, and then backs up. It was witnessed by a parked city patrol car. He then goes after the man who went throught the intersection on a red light, trying to avoid a terrible accident, and gives the man a ticket which costs me $187 dollars.

You can argue your case like I argued mine, but you'll go no where with the judge. In fact, he'll call you a liar to boot. I wanted to ask the cop if the story I told was true, and it was, but the judge never let me have the chance to. Be prepared to pay the fine.

 

[PublicSecrecy]

i dont like ur blister....

funny story: my mom was driving through this light and she saw the mounted camera flash, so shes like "....wtf?" she checked everything, she knew she wasn't speeding, she was in the right lane, she didnt run a red and yet she still got a 90$ fine. So she goes through the light again, only this time extra-cautious- and the camera flashes again! So she finally phones the department of something or other and it turns out she just forgot to put her seatbelt on!

 

[1X83Z]

You can argue your case like I argued mine, but you'll go no where with the judge. In fact, he'll call you a liar to boot. I wanted to ask the cop if the story I told was true, and it was, but the judge never let me have the chance to. Be prepared to pay the fine.

That would be considered driving to avoid an accident. When 'driving to avoid an accident', one may - legally - do anything but hit a pedestrian, since hitting a pedestrian is worse than hitting another car. Not sure what your exact circumstances were (ie the cop's version) but that's how I would've played it.

 

[Bollocks#999]

i dont like ur blister....

funny story: my mom was driving through this light and she saw the mounted camera flash, so shes like "....wtf?" she checked everything, she knew she wasn't speeding, she was in the right lane, she didnt run a red and yet she still got a 90$ fine. So she goes through the light again, only this time extra-cautious- and the camera flashes again! So she finally phones the department of something or other and it turns out she just forgot to put her seatbelt on!

That happened to a guy here in Ballarat, drove past a speed camera 3 times at a reduced speed each time, he finally stops and says to the operator "Your machine is faulty, the last time I went through i was at 40km/h (60km/h zone)" the copper says, we have you 3 times, on film, without your seatbelt on...

True story


M5Power: You make a very valid point there, I would most certainly try and play it that way myself

It wouldnt be a suprise to me that, here, both drivers wouldve been booked and had both there licences revoked

Speaking of which, Im gonna have to be a good boy for thext 12 months, accrued to many points in 3 years, we get 12

 

[Blake]

Bollocks, how many points do you have left?

Blake

 

[Bollocks#999]

-1

So when I pay this latest one, I'll get an option as to whether I can walk to work (20min drive so I think not) for 3 months, or be a good little boy for 12

 

[Blake]

Better be very good then

Blake

 

[Bollocks#999]

Got that right

 

[pimp racer]

That reminds me of when my Dad and I were in Croatia, a new highway had just been built and there was no-one much on it, we saw maybe 5 people on a 100km stretch of Highway. The speed limit was a 130kmh, the avaerage traffic speed was about 190, Dad was doing 200 most of the way .

If the cops were their they could have had a field day!

Blake

That would have been pretty damn hard for the cops but I bet eveyone would slow down when they see them.