Can't make tight turns????

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so I'm sitting here on my iPad, finally got a gpx file in the pad to work on a course.

As soon as I start I notice it will not let me make the tight turns. kinda sucks I had such high hopes for this app, I mean it's cool yes, but I live in Southern California and I want to make copies of the canyons runs that I do, but this app isn't capable of doing the tight turns. It's like the app is for more basic stuff not what I am trying to do. The course I'm trying to work on is Latigo canyon in Malibu. It's one of the best runs you can do in anything. Motorcycle , car, whatever you might have. But I have officially gaven up. I will end up posting my gpx file for it when I get home to see if anyone else can try it and ends up having the same problems.

Another thing, if we import a file like a gpx , why it doesn't automatically make the track is kinda dumb. It should be able to just render it.

Well I give the app a 1/5 since it doesn't do what I want it to do. But it is nice to have more maps to play. Why can't anything ever work properly!!!

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TuneGT
so I'm sitting here on my iPad, finally got a gpx file in the pad to work on a course.

As soon as I start I notice it will not let me make the tight turns. kinda sucks I had such high hopes for this app, I mean it's cool yes, but I live in Southern California and I want to make copies of the canyons runs that I do, but this app isn't capable of doing the tight turns. It's like the app is for more basic stuff not what I am trying to do. The course I'm trying to work on is Latigo canyon in Malibu. It's one of the best runs you can do in anything. Motorcycle , car, whatever you might have. But I have officially gaven up. I will end up posting my gpx file for it when I get home to see if anyone else can try it and ends up having the same problems.

Another thing, if we import a file like a gpx , why it doesn't automatically make the track is kinda dumb. It should be able to just render it.

Well I give the app a 1/5 since it doesn't do what I want it to do. But it is nice to have more maps to play. Why can't anything ever work properly!!!

See photos. Can't make turns!!!! Will post gpx file when I get home.
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Depends on how wide your road is. The thinner your road is, the tighter the turns you can make.
 
We should be allowed to change the width of the road from segment to segment, instead of being stuck with one width for the entire track. That'd solve some of the issues I guess.
 
TuneGT
so I'm sitting here on my iPad, finally got a gpx file in the pad to work on a course.

As soon as I start I notice it will not let me make the tight turns. kinda sucks I had such high hopes for this app, I mean it's cool yes, but I live in Southern California and I want to make copies of the canyons runs that I do, but this app isn't capable of doing the tight turns. It's like the app is for more basic stuff not what I am trying to do. The course I'm trying to work on is Latigo canyon in Malibu. It's one of the best runs you can do in anything. Motorcycle , car, whatever you might have. But I have officially gaven up. I will end up posting my gpx file for it when I get home to see if anyone else can try it and ends up having the same problems.

Another thing, if we import a file like a gpx , why it doesn't automatically make the track is kinda dumb. It should be able to just render it.

Well I give the app a 1/5 since it doesn't do what I want it to do. But it is nice to have more maps to play. Why can't anything ever work properly!!!

See photos. Can't make turns!!!! Will post gpx file when I get home.
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Know the Feeling!
See also the thread I have just opened:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/what-do-you-like-most-with-gt-track-path-editor.335756/
 
I wonder if there is a good width somewhere in the middle that would be a good compromise allowing for tighter turns but not too tight?
But I agree that turns are all too big and simple.
 
You can make some pretty tight turns just have to use multiple anchors 6m track and reduced track radius. Check out my tacks (link in sig) SSR-11 GT1 and Shotaliema ver 3.0 both have some very tight turns. The complex string from another builder is insanely tight on places.
 
I've managed to make tight hairpins in the editor, and chicanes. What you need to do is to make your next segment, but before making it a turn, select the 'line' of the new segment and then select "Decrease Corner Radius" and then mould into your turn. Do this for the next segment too and you can make a hairpin that is quite tight...

The trick is to try and make a right angle in a two-part segmented corner. You have to push them in bit-by-bit trying to keep it blue. It is doable. I have managed to recreate a couple of tracks with hairpins in, some very technical ones too...

Croft (Made to scale. Only 0.1 miles larger than real life)

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A different track.
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I will mess around again.... you should make a youtube tutorial if possible. its kinda hard to understand... i keep meessing around with the app but i cant get anything working properly... also I dont know how to upload my gpx file up here... ugh technology..

ColouredBadger
I've managed to make tight hairpins in the editor, and chicanes. What you need to do is to make your next segment, but before making it a turn, select the 'line' of the new segment and then select "Decrease Corner Radius" and then mould into your turn. Do this for the next segment too and you can make a hairpin that is quite tight...

The trick is to try and make a right angle in a two-part segmented corner. You have to push them in bit-by-bit trying to keep it blue. It is doable. I have managed to recreate a couple of tracks with hairpins in, some very technical ones too...

Croft (Made to scale. Only 0.1 miles larger than real life)

sb9x.jpg


A different track.
2ytpqc9.jpg
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TuneGT
Pretty much as close as I could get
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You're on the right track.
Something I discovered with the track maker. Sections are created up to 3 times longer then they can be shortened too.
The angle of turn and the length of the turn are directly related.
I've been able to get the great turn angle around twice the minimum section length.
Also converting a section to a straight removes the angle adjustment for section preceding it.
Long pressing a section and reducing the turn radius will allow you to tighten down a turn greatly.
 
Is there a fix for making tracks with sections that are close to each other? Example:

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There are a few sections there that are quite close together and even with decrease corner radius, it won't let me place them.
 
TuneGT
I will mess around again.... you should make a youtube tutorial if possible. its kinda hard to understand... i keep meessing around with the app but i cant get anything working properly... also I dont know how to upload my gpx file up here... ugh technology..
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I'm not sure how to do a Tutorial of it. I'm running an emulator to use the program so I'd need screen-capture software and things. I can have a go though, but I can't make any promises to you.
As for the upload thing, I have no clue how to do that. I can only transfer to the game and that's it. Maybe someone could enlighten me (us) on how to do this because I have a few track recreations I'd like to share with people.

My tracks so far are: TT Circuit Assen, Paul Ricard, Misano Circuit, Croft Circuit, Oschersleben, Algarve, Nogaro, and a couple of others loosely based on real tracks. The Real Life tracks are all more or less the actual distances and are as close as I can get them to the real thing.


R1600Turbo
Is there a fix for making tracks with sections that are close to each other? Example:

track-updated.jpg


There are a few sections there that are quite close together and even with decrease corner radius, it won't let me place them.
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Yes, the same way with the 'Decrease Corner Radius' and moving things about till they fit. You cannot place any track-side items in when doing this, but if you're like me, I'd sooner have an accurate track, than one that has stuff dotted around the outside. The picture you have provided might be tricky however, but it might be possible to do it. It all depends on scale.
 
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Sorry for the second post GT Planet peoples...

@R1600Turbo
I managed to make your track, but was a little tricky. I had to make a slight adjustment to one of the corners because of the Start/Finish straight being too wide to allow for the actual shape. But it's close... I went on the assumption that the long straight (I guessed a Drag Strip) is 1 Mile long and scaled it to be 1.6Km in the editor. Hopefully that is the correct scale... 4.89Km is roughly 3 Miles in English.

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This was made by using some sections with 'Decrease Corner Radius'. There are still sections that allow for Track-Side objects.
 
ColouredBadger
Sorry for the second post GT Planet peoples...

@R1600Turbo
I managed to make your track, but was a little tricky. I had to make a slight adjustment to one of the corners because of the Start/Finish straight being too wide to allow for the actual shape. But it's close... I went on the assumption that the long straight (I guessed a Drag Strip) is 1 Mile long and scaled it to be 1.6Km in the editor. Hopefully that is the correct scale... 4.89Km is roughly 3 Miles in English.

33aw1us.jpg


ehjkmp.jpg


4sealx.jpg


This was made by using some sections with 'Decrease Corner Radius'. There are still sections that allow for Track-Side objects.
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At the proper straight length of 2200' and 40' track width, I can't get it to do that.
 
R1600Turbo
At the proper straight length of 2200' and 40' track width, I can't get it to do that.
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The track width I used was at 12 Metres (39.3 Feet). How long is the track, or tell me which track it is so I can research it and see what I can find information-wise?
 
@R1600Turbo - I've had another go. My first attempt was 4.8Km, which made the track 0.23 Miles too large. I have re-done the track (with the same slight alteration because of the width of the Start/Finish, and it's now 4.27Km, which works out as 2.65 Miles. It is 0.1 Miles shorter than in real life, and I account that to the slight variation of one corner. Track width is 38 feet.

Here are the photos...

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Overall it's as accurate as I can get it. I think 2 feet narrower than real life, and only 0.1 miles off actual length is a pretty good rendition. If you're happy with a 99% recreation then we can sort out you getting the track on GT6?

My apologies to @TuneGT for hijacking the thread.
 
Maybe I'm just missing something. I can make tracks, there's no doubt about that. But when I got to the first area where there are bits of track really close, even with the decreased radius, the sections were overlapping by quite a bit.
 
R1600Turbo
Maybe I'm just missing something. I can make tracks, there's no doubt about that. But when I got to the first area where there are bits of track really close, even with the decreased radius, the sections were overlapping by quite a bit.
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I'm not doubting you. I know it's difficult to do. I have the added advantage of the precision of a mouse (assuming you have a Tablet). That makes a lot of difference in accuracy of moving the points.
You have to pre-make the points and then move them into place else you can't get the track back out. It's a pain in the arse to do but once you get the hang of it, it's fine.

I'm still trying to solve the tutorial thing mentioned earlier on by TuneGT, if I can find a way of doing it then I'll try to show how I do the tight corners and sections... However, some tracks aren't possible to do, and others need compromise to complete.

If you would like the track then I have shared it on my GT Social Page. If you can send me a friend request to CorsairBadger then it's available for you to take. There are no rumble strips or anything so I can re-do that if you'd like before getting the track. Or is there a way for you to import the track into your Track Editor and then do the trackside bits yourself so you can get them right?
 
ColouredBadger
I didn't know you could do that, thank you.

My tracks are open to download if anyone reading this thread wants them (at the link provided by Otaliema), you're all welcome to them. :)
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There is a sticky in the forum for more details 👍
R1600Turbo
Tried this, it just tells me the sections are too close.
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I know this is going to sound silly but move them farther apart. If you're having problems laying down new sections then you need to pay down more sections first or point the end of the last section away from the close track get a new section in then start the slow process of straightening the bund out.
 

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