Car interiors incomplete ?

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Hey I just wondered with all the cars in the game that dont have a rear view when inside car. I think its just a black void where the rear seats would be when you look from outside the car.

Is this incomplete laziness from polyphony or is it a case of not having licencing to show the rear of the cars for some reason? If anyone knows

I havnt played other racing games to know if they animate the interiors fully
 
GTNealosONE
Hey I just wondered with all the cars in the game that dont have a rear view when inside car. I think its just a black void where the rear seats would be when you look from outside the car.

Is this incomplete laziness from polyphony or is it a case of not having licencing to show the rear of the cars for some reason? If anyone knows

I havnt played other racing games to know if they animate the interiors fully
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The lack of detail is really helpful for figuring out what you're even on about..

What cars? Pictures? Anything else?
 
I've not found a single car that doesn't have a rear view. Though in fairness I don't use them, feels like cheating, I stick to the interior mirrors. List cars or show pictures so we know what you are talking about.
 
Urinal2001
I've not found a single car that doesn't have a rear view. Though in fairness I don't use them, feels like cheating, I stick to the interior mirrors. List cars or show pictures so we know what you are talking about.
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They have a rear view
I mean they don't have a rear interior
 
I'm guessing he's referring to cars such as the Suzuki Escudo and many other race cars (and the VGTs as @MagpieRacer mentioned, though they don't have any interior because they basically don't exist) which don't have a rear window. The game, when on interior view, simply places the rear view camera outside the car, so that you can actually see.
 
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4c gr4
CLK LM 98
R8 LMS Evo 19
R18 TDI 11
Bugatti VGT Gr1
GT by citron Road car
SRT Tomahawk X VGT
Viper Gr4
FXX K 14
Mark IV Race Car 67
NSX GrB Rally Car
NSX Gr4
NSX Gr3
NSX CONCEPT GT 16
XJR 9 88
RX500 70
Atenza Gr4
Atenza Gr3
650 GT3 15
Sauber Mercedes C9 89
RCZ GrB Rally Car
RCZ Gr3
908 HDi FAP 10
R.S01 GT3 16
BRZ GT300 21
V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special 98

lol yeh VGT list could have been.
Some are obviously understandable but others ... I dunno
 
GTNealosONE
Everyone of them?
So in real life the Atenza is obstructed?
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The Gr.4 Atenza is a fictional car, but yes the car in game has an obstructed rear view.

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With the Atenzas, there’s a black panel behind the front seat. So, there’s no rear interior. I use cockpit view anyway, but theirs a rear facing camera. So, that view is on the dash screen.
 
TumeK5
I mean clearly the interiors are incomplete if they forgot to install back windows.
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Not necessarily. Some cars don't actually have back windows so thats why the camera pans outside the car for rear view. I knew this for le mans cars but didn't with the grade 3 and 4's

In some cases like the le mans 67, you can go on youtube and look at a 360 view from inside the car. There is the engine and rear window in all its glory but alas, I see me asking a question has super offended people and opened up the flood gates to sarcasm and ridicule
 
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GTNealosONE
Not necessarily. Some cars don't actually have back windows so thats why the camera pans outside the car for rear view. I knew this for le mans cars but didn't with the grade 3 and 4's

In some cases like the le mans 67, you can go on youtube and look at a 360 view from inside the car. There is the engine and rear window in all its glory but alas, I see me asking a question has super offended people and opened up the flood gates to sarcasm and ridicule
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And then you say this
GTNealosONE
Maybe you should play the game before replying
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:)
 
TumeK5
And then you say this

:)
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The lack of detail is really helpful for figuring out what you're even on about...

So we just ignoring when he said that before I said what I said ? Before you said what you said that led to me saying what I said to you. Can you paint a more accurate honest picture please if you are going to quote me... look at this disgrace..
I will be leaving this site. The Internet is a sesspool. Did I offend your beautiful game by asking ?
 
GTNealosONE
In some cases like the le mans 67, you can go on youtube and look at a 360 view from inside the car. There is the engine and rear window in all its glory
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I think that's the only car rom your list where there's something even close to a valid argument, but it was likely a design choice due to the engine block being smack in the middle of the view rather than laziness or licensing.

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GTNealosONE
What argument? I asked if anyone knew and I got my answer plus some attitude
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I'm answering your questions. And I meant argument as in "a reason given in support of a theory" as you set out in your first post about the lack of rear interior views possibly being because PD are lazy or because of licensing issues. I didn't mean argument as in being argumentative.

The argument you've got into in this thread isn't with me and I've not given you any attitude.
 
How about the F50 and road going McLaren. The F50 side view shows a rear window but the rear view doesn’t use it.
 
Are you talking about cars when you look back in the cockpit view don't render the rear cockpit but render the rear view camera as if you're on bumper cam?

That's likely a design choice because it'd be really hard or impossible to see through the rear otherwise on the cars that do this. Some don't even have rear windows like a few of the Gr.3 cars and various racecars, which is why some of them have a rear view camera in the cockpit.
 
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Yes but its ok. Someone pointed out that the cars aren't real and in the game they are designed to have no rear windows. I'm sure they'll still ne some exceptions. I have to check the F50 and McLaren now
 
Use the rear view on the Veneno, can’t see anything through the rear window in that car but they modeled it anyway but the F50 and others they didn’t. The Muira in previous GTs you would look through the louvers on the rear window but now it’s just a bumper cam view. They model extra detail on some cars and others they take short cuts, frustrating.
 
GTNealosONE
4c gr4
CLK LM 98
R8 LMS Evo 19
R18 TDI 11
Bugatti VGT Gr1
GT by citron Road car
SRT Tomahawk X VGT
Viper Gr4
FXX K 14
Mark IV Race Car 67
NSX GrB Rally Car
NSX Gr4
NSX Gr3
NSX CONCEPT GT 16
XJR 9 88
RX500 70
Atenza Gr4
Atenza Gr3
650 GT3 15
Sauber Mercedes C9 89
RCZ GrB Rally Car
RCZ Gr3
908 HDi FAP 10
R.S01 GT3 16
BRZ GT300 21
V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special 98

lol yeh VGT list could have been.
Some are obviously understandable but others ... I dunno
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The majority of them are cars that either don't actually have a back window, Have a back window but its basically obscured by things such as the fire wall or roll cage (Or even the actual engine itself) or have simply a black piece that resembles a back window but its all black and can't be seen out of. Its not so much that all of these lack interiors as they actually are modelled, the view just isn't there because again of various aspects that make using the rear view from the interior impractical. I'll highlight the real cars just to give an idea since they exist and offer a solid basis.

In the case of these:

R18 TDI 11
XJR 9 88
Sauber Mercedes C9 89
908 HDi FAP 10
R.S01 GT3 16

These are all racing cars that have NO rear windows so the interiors are modelled but you'll never see them as attempting to use rear view from inside will show nothing but firewall.

In the case of these:

Bugatti VGT Gr1
GT by Citron Road car
FXX K 14
Mark IV Race Car 67
RX500 70
650 GT3 15

These kinda have rear windows or some sort of view out the back but because of either the firewall, the engine itself or both, its impractical as a means of using as a view to look back despite being fully modeled. You'll also notice the Bugatti VGT among these real car examples because its one of the very few VGT cars that do exist (and actually functional too)


In the case of these:

CLK LM 98
NSX CONCEPT GT 16
BRZ GT300 21

These just have a fake rear window that is simply a cover that can be removed without removing the whole rear section for engineers to work on the internals of the car. Every single one of them has a firewall as well that once again makes trying to use the rear view from cockpit view useless so you definitely wouldn't be able to see out the back of these. Worth bringing the Escudo Pikes Peak Special here as well because despite taking on the silhouette of a production car with a engine in the front of the driver, its actually has its engine located behind the driver (As is the case with pretty much every Suzuki Pikes Peak car made by Monster Sport afterwards).

With these examples, they also can serve to explain many of the GR.3 and GR.4 cars since PD have modelled them based on some real life rules and machinery (For instance, the real life Acura/Honda NSX GT3 has just a fire wall on the interior so the GR.3 and GR.4 models as well as the GR.B have likely been modelled based on this, though the GR.3 interestingly uses a somewhat similar flat black rear cover in place of a window like the GT500 NSX does). As far as the majority of Vision GT cars go (and a few road cars), it seems to largely just depend on what cars as there appears to be no real consistency among them.
 
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