Car mistakes by PD?

[hobanator24]

Going back to the Mini thing, is SEAT down as German in the game as they are owned by VW?

Just because it's owned by a company in a different country doesn't mean it's from that country. I think that Mini is actually manufactured in Germany now so that's why it's listed as German. SEAT however, is owned by Volkswagen, but is still manufactured in Spain.

& As for my contribution, the Dodge Challenger R/T '70 has the 426 Hemi badge on the drivers side of the hood, but it's missing on the other side.

 

[Tornado]

The New Mini (with the exception of the Countryman) is manufactured in the same British factory as the old (also incorrectly labeled as German) Mini was.

 

[hobanator24]

The New Mini (with the exception of the Countryman) is manufactured in the same British factory as the old (also incorrectly labeled as German) Mini was.

Okay my mistake. I was just guessing.

 

[Snakebitten]

Dodge Viper ACR. No adjustable front and rear downforce stock. Also no adjustable coilovers stock. Both adjustable aero and coilovers are what the car comes with stock in real life but not in GT5.

Viper GTS GT5 stock ride height is even more ridiculous than it is in real life lol. When you lower it with coilovers all the way down in game, its only lowered to stock real life ride height.

Shelby Series one is not supercharged.

There are many more that was discussed a while back that I can't remember but these three stick out in my mind.

 

[Sage Ages]

Nissan 180sx, 240sx, and 200sx
PD reused the same car (180sx) and just changed the license plates and interior.

 

[Valkyrie427]

Dodge Viper ACR. No adjustable front and rear downforce stock. Also no adjustable coilovers stock. Both adjustable aero and coilovers are what the car comes with stock in real life but not in GT5.

Viper GTS GT5 stock ride height is even more ridiculous than it is in real life lol. When you lower it with coilovers all the way down in game, its only lowered to stock real life ride height.

Shelby Series one is not supercharged.

There are many more that was discussed a while back that I can't remember but these three stick out in my mind.

That is screwed up. Nice avatar, by the way,

Nissan 180sx, 240sx, and 200sx
PD reused the same car (180sx) and just changed the license plates and interior.

What interior?

 

[brianwong]

Just because it's owned by a company in a different country doesn't mean it's from that country. I think that Mini is actually manufactured in Germany now so that's why it's listed as German. SEAT however, is owned by Volkswagen, but is still manufactured in Spain.

& As for my contribution, the Dodge Challenger R/T '70 has the 426 Hemi badge on the drivers side of the hood, but it's missing on the other side.

Is the Camaro a Canadian car then?

 

[eran0004]

Is the Camaro a Canadian car then?

The Camaro is a model, not a make. And Camaro is made by Chevrolet, which is a US company, so it's a US car.

When it comes to the MINI, it's a car made by BMW in a British factory. The company is German, and so the car is German.

MINI is not a company, it's just a badge.

 

[Minty]

So if they label Mini as German shouldn't they now label all Chrysler vehicles as Italian? That'd piss some people off

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

The Fiat Panda Super i.e. has no rear window. Looks like someone shattered it with a baseball bat.

BMW M3 '07 shifting animation is glitchy. When frequently shifting up and down through a series of corners, your driver may occasionally stiffen up or do the "jitter-bug"

 

[Kitten]

So if they label Mini as German shouldn't they now label all Chrysler vehicles as Italian? That'd piss some people off

As Jeep

 

[Tornado]

The Camaro is a model, not a make. And Camaro is made by Chevrolet, which is a US company, so it's a US car.

When it comes to the MINI, it's a car made by BMW in a British factory. The company is German, and so the car is German.

MINI is not a company, it's just a badge.

Except the Mini brand predates BMW ownership by 25 years and even the classic Mini is labeled as a German car; and the logic still doesn't follow anyway because only one of the other brands in the game owned by a larger brand has the same country as the larger brand.


Scion is American despite being owned by Toyota and made up entirely of rebadges.
Infiniti is American despite being owned by Nissan and made up almost entirely of rebadges.
Bugatti is French despite being owned by Volkswagen and with no illusions about the car having any French design in it.
SEAT is Spanish despite being owned by Volkswagen and generally only making hotter versions of slightly older VW hatchbacks.
Bentley is British despite being owned by Volkswagen and the one car in the game being built off of an Audi race car and ran by the Audi factory racing team.
Land Rover is British despite the only car in the game being designed and funded while under Ford's tenure and the company being owned by an Indian car company by the time GT5 came out.
Opel is German and Vauxhall is British despite the two brands being so identical that they even copied cars over between the two that they shouldn't have; and despite both being nothing more than European arms of GM.
MG is British despite the fact that (by the time that GT5 came out) it was owned and run by a Chinese car company who were building the only car in the game (the MGF/MG TF) entirely in China and having them shipped to Britain for reassembly as knock-down kits.



But Mini is German because BMW bought out the (British) parent company and broke most of it up but continued making and designing the brands they did keep in Britain in the same 100 year-old factory (remodeled and updated) that most of British Leyland's output was made in?

 

[eran0004]

Except the Mini brand predates BMW ownership by 25 years and even the classic Mini is labeled as a German car; and the logic still doesn't follow anyway because only one of the other brands in the game owned by a larger brand has the same country as the larger brand.

Scion is American despite being owned by Toyota and made up entirely of rebadges.
Infiniti is American despite being owned by Nissan and made up almost entirely of rebadges.

Scion and Infiniti are the US versions of the Japanese brands. MINI is not the British version of BMW. It's not comparable.

If you want to discuss the nationality of Scion and Infiniti, that's a different discussion and is not related to Mini.

Bugatti is French despite being owned by Volkswagen and with no illusions about the car having any French design in it.
SEAT is Spanish despite being owned by Volkswagen and generally only making hotter versions of slightly older VW hatchbacks.
Bentley is British despite being owned by Volkswagen and the one car in the game being built off of an Audi race car and ran by the Audi factory racing team.
Land Rover is British despite the only car in the game being designed and funded while under Ford's tenure and the company being owned by an Indian car company by the time GT5 came out.
Opel is German and Vauxhall is British despite the two brands being so identical that they even copied cars over between the two that they shouldn't have; and despite both being nothing more than European arms of GM.
MG is British despite the fact that (by the time that GT5 came out) it was owned and run by a Chinese car company who were building the only car in the game (the MGF/MG TF) entirely in China and having them shipped to Britain for reassembly as knock-down kits.

Bugatti is a manufacturer. They make cars and they are owned by Volkswagen.
SEAT is a manufacturer. They make cars and are owned by VW.
Bentley is a manufacturer. They make cars and are owned by VW.
Land Rover is a manufacturer. They make cars and are owned by Tata Motors.
Opel and Vauxhall are both manufacturers. They make cars and are owned by GM.
MG is a manufacturer. They make cars and are owned by SAIC.

Mini is not, and has never been, a manufacturer. They do not make cars. Mini has never been more than a marque that's been owned and manufactured by other companies.

But Mini is German because BMW bought out the (British) parent company and broke most of it up but continued making and designing the brands they did keep in Britain in the same 100 year-old factory (remodeled and updated) that most of British Leyland's output was made in?

Mini never had a parent company. Why? Because Mini was never a company, Mini was the intellectual property of Rover, by the time Rover was acquired by BMW. Whoever bought Mini bought the name and the design of a car - there was never a company to go with it. When BMW decided to sell off Rover, they kept Mini. Mini is now the intellectual property of BMW, and BMW decided to use it on their new segment of compact front wheel drive cars.

As a result, the MINI is a car that is manufactured by BMW, it's a German make.

 

[Tornado]

Scion and Infiniti are the US versions of the Japanese brands. MINI is not the British version of BMW. It's not comparable.

That's not what they are. They are upmarket brands that have several (but not all) of their models be repurposed cars from another market. It doesn't make them any more or less Japanese regardless.

Bugatti is a manufacturer. They make cars and they are owned by Volkswagen.

Bugatti was a manufacturer in 1952. That has nothing to do with Bugatti of today just like it has nothing to do with the Bugatti of 20 years ago when Romano Artioli owned it. Volkswagen bought the name, established a new company under VAG with a new name that references prewar Bugatti, built a new factory and a new company headquarters in France, and then designed the car entirely in Germany.

Mini is not, and has never been, a manufacturer. They do not make cars. Mini has never been more than a marque that's been owned and manufactured by other companies.

Mini never had a parent company. Why? Because Mini was never a company, Mini was the intellectual property of Rover, by the time Rover was acquired by BMW. Whoever bought Mini bought the name and the design of a car - there was never a company to go with it. When BMW decided to sell off Rover, they kept Mini. Mini is now the intellectual property of BMW, and BMW decided to use it on their new segment of compact front wheel drive cars.

Except for a period of time in the company's history Mini was officially a manufacturer organized under (at the time) British Leyland. They moved production to the Longbridge factory, the car was substantially redesigned and stripped of any association to Morris or Austin, and the brand sold 3 separate models (the Clubman, the 1275GT and the Mk. III) for over a decade before British Leyland ended production of the two square front cars so as to not compete with the Austin Metro. At that point the Mk. III either devolved to just being a Rover (which means that it was a manufacturer for 12 years) or continued as its own brand until BMW brought out the R53 in 2001.



It's no different from how the Imperial and Continental names have at various times been both their own flagship marque under the Chrysler and Ford groups rather than just a model for Chrysler and Lincoln to sell. Similarly:

Land Rover is a manufacturer. They make cars and are owned by Tata Motors.

Land Rover is a manufacturer now. Their models were also originally simply sold under another British Leyland brand (Rover in this case) for the first few decades before being established as its own manufacturer; including the original Range Rover.

As a result, the MINI is a car that is manufactured by BMW, it's a German make.

Then so is Bugatti because the exact same thing applies, yet Bugatti is still labeled as a French make. And, again, the classic Mini is still not a German car no matter what argument you're trying to make for why the R53/R56 is.

 

[Sage Ages]

Most of the early muscle cars have the same power as they're Gross HP rating.

 

[20B_4ME]

The fact that the rotary engine sounds for the Spirit R are a bit messed up. Rotary engines have very distinct engine sounds depending on stock, extend port, bridge port, turbo port, J port and peripheral ports. Plus the number of rotors also affects completely the sound of the engine. On the RX7 Spirit R, you can make the engine sound like a 3 rotor engine simply by changing the exhaust!

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

The fact that the rotary engine sounds for the Spirit R are a bit messed up. Rotary engines have very distinct engine sounds depending on stock, extend port, bridge port, turbo port, J port and peripheral ports. Plus the number of rotors also affects completely the sound of the engine. On the RX7 Spirit R, you can make the engine sound like a 3 rotor engine simply by changing the exhaust!

A guy can dream, right?

 

[wizzards581]

one of the Mitsubishi eclipse stock gear ratio isn't correct. there are 2 gears that doesn't make a difference. I don't think the real car does that.

 

[GDII]

The SW20 MR2 G-Limited says TWINCAM TURBO on the side of the car and has a raised turbo engine lid yet it says G-Limited on the boot.

 

[eran0004]

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It's a common misconception that MINI is a manufacturer, but it's not. BMW is the manufacturer, MINI is a badge. A German brand with a British badge does not make it a British car.

When it comes to Bugatti, they're manufactured by Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S., not by Volkswagen.

When it comes to MINI, they are manufactured by BMW. Not by MINI, because MINI does not exist as a company.

Bugatti S.A.S. is owned by Volkswagen, but it's not Volkswagen who manufactures the cars. That is the difference.

MINI is owned by BMW, but it's also BMW who manufactures the cars.

Bugatti is a company, MINI is a badge.

 

[kekke2000]

In the description of the Prius (standard car) it says it takes 999 liters/100km.

 

[GDII]

In the description of the Prius (standard car) it says it takes 999 liters/100km.

It says that for all hybrid cars. Must have been something they were not allowed to state in the description.

 

[eran0004]

In the description of the Prius (standard car) it says it takes 999 liters/100km.

If that was true it would emit a solid trail of carbon dioxide with a diameter of 11 centimeters*. That's roughly comparable to the emissions of a medium-sized jet airliner

They must have some massive exhaust pipes chimneys.

(* At standard temperature and pressure)

 

[Snorevette]

If that was true it would emit a solid trail of carbon dioxide with a diameter of 11 centimeters*. That's roughly comparable to the emissions of a medium-sized jet airliner

They must have some massive exhaust pipes chimneys.

(* At standard temperature and pressure)

I want to make a jet-powered Prius now.

 

[Tornado]

It's a common misconception that MINI is a manufacturer, but it's not.

The amount of "common misconceptions" that you've thrown around on this topic that turned out to not actually be misconceptions... I could go on into specifics, but considering they would be the same specifics that you've ignored repeatedly I don't see much point in it.

Most of the early muscle cars have the same power as they're Gross HP rating.

I'm curious what you mean by this.

 

[AuToNoMy]

Let's clear up all this mini confusion from 1959 to 2000 mini was produced under the British motor corporation (BMC) which were Leyland,Austin and then Rover until they went bankrupt in 2000 and then was bought out by BMW so now you can now say that mini is a german car but any mini built before the year 2000 should be classed as British plus the British ones are generally mini coopers

 

[FiftyBelowZero]

The Veyron has the engine sound which is most off. It sounds softer than a Dyson.

 

[Slash]

The Veyron has the engine sound which is most off. It sounds softer than a Dyson.

I don't know about that. The '71 Mach 1 should sound like this:

 

[FiftyBelowZero]

I don't know about that. The '71 Mach 1 should sound like this:

This vid reminds me that any max-tuned car in FM4 sounded. I guess FM4 and GT5 need some engine sound improvements.

Anyways, how did the Mach sound in GT5? I haven't driven one.

 

[Slash]

This vid reminds me that any max-tuned car in FM4 sounded. I guess FM4 and GT5 need some engine sound improvements.

Anyways, how did the Mach sound in GT5? I haven't driven one.

Stock and tuned are terribly off. If you change your car to the some of the Mopars, when the startup sound is played, that's how just about all stock muscle cars idle in real life.

This stock in GT5:



This is fully tuned




You can't even hear the idle at all.