Car purchase: was it a good deal?

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My family went to Volkswagen to buy my dad car car. He had been driving a Toyota Previa for 15 years and DESERVED a good car, since my mom drove a new Accord and my Brother and be have a BMW 318ti avusblue.

We walked on the lot and a salesman showed us a Touareg with all the features except for active ride height and V8. It's price? 36,500 out the door with tax.

It's value? 50,500 out the door with tax. Of course it was slightly used (11,212 miles) and it was an '04, but where do you FIND a 16,000 savings on such a fine car? It was a one day sale.....I'm glad I told my parents to let us eat lunch at the nearby Fuddruckers....:D
 
It's a great price. Navigation, rear side sunshades, leather w/ memory, OnStar, right? Total deal.

By the way, was it a Previa All-Trac?
 
I've heard the V6 (I assume it's that an not the V10 diesel) is a bit of a plodder because it's such a heavy car. Still a nice one though and a damn sight less offensive to look at than the Cayenne.
 
I know the Cayenne S is ment to be a hell of a car - but Porsche should'nt be making this sort of car - and its offensive to look at. I'd pic a Tourag over any of the SUV's on the market (except, perhaps, a Rangie) especially the V10 diesel version with all that yummy torque!

- I would of thought that $36,500 is an absolute steal. 👍
 
I'd have a Ranger Rover V8 Vogue over pretty much anything except an X5 4.8iS
X5 aint really an offroad weapon like the Rangie though.

Now a Bowler Wildcat.... :D
 
Oh I think the Touareg stomps the Cayenne in terms of looks.

No, my dad's Previa was a RWD DX automatic . basic of basics but i was born with it. :D I'm thinking of restoring it since it's mine....:dopey:

The V6......eh it's kinda weak, great engine but not in the 'Reg.

and...YESUM! had everything 'cept active ride height and a V8.

Rain sensing wipers? omg. We've neva had a car over 25K before so we're dumbstruck lil' Filipinos :D

We have to watch a video on the 'Reg's electronics, then go back to Volkswagen so that one of the guys can teach us more. 2 hours long.....a movie about the 'Reg's gizmos. I should have a lot of fun :D

At least I get to practice in it this spring when I get my permit. But I stilll have to practice my clutchwork in my bro's BMW 318ti.
 
Good Luk with the toe-rag ! I love the look of those babies...a little drool always finds its way to my shirt front when I see one pass in the metallic grey on the road !
 
TwinTurboJay
Good Luk with the toe-rag ! I love the look of those babies...a little drool always finds its way to my shirt front when I see one pass in the metallic grey on the road !
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That's exactly what color we have :D

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Ain't she sexy?
 
TurboLevin2NV
No, my dad's Previa was a RWD DX automatic . basic of basics but i was born with it. :D I'm thinking of restoring it since it's mine....:dopey:

The V6......eh it's kinda weak, great engine but not in the 'Reg.
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Compared to an automatic, two-wheel drive Previa, you might have cut your dad's zero to sixty time in half. And the V6 Touareg dos 0-60 in 9.2. Which isn't too bad, actually. Though a lot of those options do add considerable weight, so it might be closer to 9.5. Still, compared to that Previa...
 
Well, the Prev is like, 15 years old so it's 0-60 is probably around 20 seconds. We can't accelerate too hard or it won't shift, and it'll rumble alarmingly.
 
Well, that's probably due to overrevving. Is it what I'm thinking it is? (that big bubble-shaped minivan from the 90's)

Cause those look like they're FWD...

BTW, that development you live in looks an awful lot like the ones that were built around here recently
 
Victor Vance
BTW, that development you live in looks an awful lot like the ones that were built around here recently
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Doesn't suburbia always looks the same? lol

The van has silky shifts.....and it pulls plenty hard as it always did, but it just can't do it for as long anymore. It four cylinder 2.4L is pretty big for a four banger.

I'll get u a pic of a Previa to refresh yur memory.

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Ours is exactly like that, only in bluish silver metallic.
 
Nah I know what it is. Just making sure I had the right model. (remember the Lumina badge served double duty as a sedan and minivan in the 90s, so I might've got confused)
 
I just saw this thread, and I think it's a good deal. It's a beauty. I like the look of them; they're nice trucks out of a slightly unexpected company (an SUV from Volkswagen?). I think you got off pretty well with a deal like that. (and no, not "get off" like some sick sexual innuendo! :odd: )
Congrats on the new buy!(well, your father's new buy) Good luck with it, too!
 
Victor Vance
Well, that's probably due to overrevving. Is it what I'm thinking it is? (that big bubble-shaped minivan from the 90's)

Cause those look like they're FWD...
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Yeah, today considers it one of the worst minivans ever produced. Standard drivetrain was rear-drive, but most made were Previa All-Trac models, which had all-wheel drive (as did similarly unknown Camry All-Trac and Celica All-Trac models). The standard engine was a hellish 138-horsepower 2.4-liter four (with both manual and automatic transmissions), but beginning in 1994 they cancelled the manual and made optional a supercharged 161-horsepower 2.4-liter four. You'd think a supercharged, all-wheel drive Toyota would be cool, but not in this case. I'd think manual models had a tachometer, but I really don't know.
 
Victor Vance
Camry All-Track? o_0

Damn, I gotta keep my eyes peeled next time I see an older Camry...
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Yes, Toyota made an all-wheel drive Camry from 1988 to 1991 known as the Camry All-Trac. They find their way onto cars.com and Autotrader from time to time (in fact, there's eight on Autotrader right now). I've frequently contemplated purchasing one for the sheer novelty of it, since they go for $2000 and less, but they're slow. The only (visible) difference between an All-Trac and a standard model is the "All-Trac" badge on the rear, which was also true for the Previa All-Trac and Celica All-Trac. This generation also had a Camry V6, and if I ever found an All-Trac V6, which I don't believe exists, I'd buy it on the spot, regardless of whether it was being sold.

The one people really should care about but don't is the Celica All-Trac, likely the best alternative to the 1990-1994 Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo that exists. The Celica All-Trac was AWD and had a 200-horsepower 2-liter turbo four (mated to a 5-speed manual, the only available transmission) but unlike the Talon/Eclipse, no-one ever mentions the Celica All-Trac (which was actually badged as the Celica All-Trac Turbo). They're rare, but not TOO rare, and just as quick as the Talon and Eclipse. Also unlike the Talon and Eclipse, the All-Trac Turbo was available as both a hatch and a convertible.
 
Not too concerned about the convertible part (I tend to lean against convertibles anyway for their lack of structual stiffness, thus, hurtaing handling, often softened suspension, worsening handling further and added weight, adding insult to injury) but correct me if I'm wrong, but

USDM Celica All-Trac Turbo = JDM Celica GT-FOUR?
 
Maybe, but the All-Trac Turbo was 1990-1993 only, and I know there was a Celica GT-Four from 1994 to 1999 in Japan.
 
Right, that's the... oh, I fogot the chasis code... lemme check japanparts.com

Edit: I think the ST185 had the GT-FOUR option. Common sense tells me thay had it. Common sense also tells me we got a watered down version of it :indiff:

But, hey, at least we got all-trac on the ST185, unlike the 205 :indiff:
 
Yeah. Toyota pretty much gave up on AWD. There was also an all-wheel drive Corolla All-Trac as both a wagon and sedan; the All-Trac sedan was cancelled in 1991 and the wagon in 1993. In 1990 they had four AWD cars, by 1994 it was just one, and that was effectively nothing anyway since it was the Previa, which barely ever sold.
 
OK, now a history test: How many cars did Subaru sell in 1991-94? did Subaru have a decent grasp on the market, or, asa friend told me, Subaru was basically unknown or an 'alternetave' brand until 1998-2000? (Birth of WRX, and Forester of course)
 
1991:
Justy, Legacy, Loyale
1992:
Justy, Legacy, Loyale, SVX
1993:
Impreza, Justy, Legacy, Loyale, SVX
1994:
Impreza, Justy, Legacy, Loyale, SVX

Truthfully, Subaru was in such bad shape it was contemplating fully pulling out of the American market entirely in 1996 until the SUV craze took off and some marketing genius came up with the idea of a Legacy with SUV styling and raised ride height (SUV capabilities, car handling and fuel economy, they decided). Originally it was a package, where it was so popular it became a single trim level called "Outback." While still virtually unknown in some markets, the Outback became one of the most popular cars in several upscale, harsh-climate markets like Denver, Salt Lake, upstate New York, and Vermont/New Hampshire. Today, the Outback is the single best-selling car in Denver, Colorado, and Charlotte, North Carolina, and is still among the top five best-selling cars (keep in mind its competition: Camry, Accord, Taurus) in Salt Lake and New England. Its runaway success, unbelievable profits, and discovery of an entire segment yielded new trims (including a sedan bodystyle, which was suggested by an Outback wagon owner in Connecticut to a Subaru dealer) and, ultimately, paved the way (monetarily) for the WRX to come to the US. The Outback, in my opinion, is the best auto-industry success story of the 1990s; it saved Subaru from "fringe" status.
 
So, then in that case, the three cars that basically saved Subaru's U.S. market:

Impreza/Legacy Outback, 1996
Forester, 1998
Impreza WRX, 2000

Yes?

I seriously wonder how much of an influence world motorsports attention and Gran Turismo itself convinced Subaru the WRX would be a good idea? Either way it started a revolution, and amen to the one it started :)
 

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