Car Reviewing on GT5
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they are different. They all have same F-5, R-5 setup, but on every car it works different. You can tell difference easy by driving FR and then RR cars. Try to brake it will act different, it depends on weight distribution, drivetrain and suspension (other stuff as well obviously).
The presure needed for braking is same for all cars, that is unreal, but at least they act different when used.
There is many unreal stuff in GT but the basics works well, cars drive like cars.. they just are very GT like - similar to each other but different.. hard to explain.
anyway this works for me and this "error" is in every driving game I played! I call it "game engine limitations" lol, even for smart PD "physics calculation engine".point is brakes are different, but very similar.
they brake PS. forgot to mention, I notice that some cheap lightweight cars brake bad, but more heavy sports cars brake better, and racing cars brake even better with shorter Stopping distance. Somehow PD created same setup 5 - 5 for all cars but they are different for each. But I hope it will change in future updates or at least in next GT, they have to create "buy Brakes" section in "Tuning menu" and it would be cool if we could choose manufacturers like Brembo or others....
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Fantastic read Keep them coming 👍
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- xViLLaiNx12
Cars might respond differently while braking (or doing anything else for that matter), but the brakes are the same on every car nonetheless. The differences arise in driving style, weight distribution, tuning setups, tire selection, etc. But the actual brakes themselves are modelled the same. 👍
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HONDA NSX TYPE R '02 VS MAZDA RX-7 SPIRIT R TYPE A (FD)'02
COST AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS
The NSX is made by the same company that makes the Civic, Honda. Before you stop reading just yet, this is no Honda lookalike. Although the Championship White colour is familiar to many, apart from that, it looks like the real deal sports car. It looks unlike the Civic and Insight, because they look plain. The NSX features a gaping hood hole and a side hole, as well as a cool spoiler, two massive exhausts hanging from the rear, and with a low, skittish nose, with spotlight-type headlamps. It looks surprisingly exciting and elegant in its own way, but it costs 119,570 credits, which is a LOT, for a sports car. Does the NSX sport the horsepower to be worth costing that much?
PERFORMANCE
No, it doesn't. At 276 horsepower, it's just like the Mazda RX-7, the Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX, the Skyline R32, the Skyline R33, and the Skyline R34, all which are at least twice as cheap at the NSX Type R, and, for LESS, you can buy a Dodge Viper SRT-10, which has a lot more horsepower. It's not massively light either, at 1270 kilograms it's still over a tonne, and the RX-7 weighs in at exactly the same, but is almost 3x cheaper! Torque isn't good news, either. It has 31.00 KG/FM of torque, max, but the RX-7 has 32.00 KG/FM of maximum torque! So far, the NSX is shaping out to be a pointless car, but here's one thing: it definitely looks better than the RX-7, in my opinion. But that's it, so far. Let's see if we can find out why this costs so much over the RX-7- in other words, I bought both of them and took them for a test drive.
Stings of laps at Tsukuba, the NSX managed to score a very good time of 1.04.595. The RX-7, after strings of laps, only managed 1.06.398. So, the NSX is faster in one area, but what?
On Special Stage Route 7, the RX-7 topped 168 MPH, whilst the NSX managed a higher 173 MPH. For the NSX, it sticks to the road like glue, and flips its tail out like a maniac when you push it too hard. It's extremely responsive and sharp and has very little understeer. The RX-7 is similar, but it doesn't feel quite as delicate or precise as the NSX does.
GEARING
The NSX wins this round. Why? Whilst it doesn't change gear much faster, is has 6 of them, meaning higher top speed for the same power is the case here. It also means that most corners can be taken at the highest power point, another advantage for the NSX.
BRAKING
The NSX slightly outperforms the RX-7 in braking, probably because it's engine is mounted in the middle rather than the front, because when the car brakes, the weight near the front drags the car forward, and since the NSX is a mid-engined car, there is less weight in the front of the car, so it has seemingly more stopping power.
MISCELLANEOUS
Both cars have cockpits and working headlights and horns, though both cockpits are rather dull and uninteresting- you cannot read the RX-7's dials easily in daylight, even. The best cockpit at night is by far the RX-7 because it has a groovy red glow.
CONCLUSION
Get the RX-7. Why? Even though it isn't as sporty, or has near top speed as the NSX, it's much more bang for your buck. However, if you don't mind spending 70,000 MORE on something that is more fun, go ahead, by all means.The NSX is still a great, albeit, an expensive car and a real joy to drive, too.
COST AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS
The NSX is made by the same company that makes the Civic, Honda. Before you stop reading just yet, this is no Honda lookalike. Although the Championship White colour is familiar to many, apart from that, it looks like the real deal sports car. It looks unlike the Civic and Insight, because they look plain. The NSX features a gaping hood hole and a side hole, as well as a cool spoiler, two massive exhausts hanging from the rear, and with a low, skittish nose, with spotlight-type headlamps. It looks surprisingly exciting and elegant in its own way, but it costs 119,570 credits, which is a LOT, for a sports car. Does the NSX sport the horsepower to be worth costing that much?
PERFORMANCE
No, it doesn't. At 276 horsepower, it's just like the Mazda RX-7, the Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX, the Skyline R32, the Skyline R33, and the Skyline R34, all which are at least twice as cheap at the NSX Type R, and, for LESS, you can buy a Dodge Viper SRT-10, which has a lot more horsepower. It's not massively light either, at 1270 kilograms it's still over a tonne, and the RX-7 weighs in at exactly the same, but is almost 3x cheaper! Torque isn't good news, either. It has 31.00 KG/FM of torque, max, but the RX-7 has 32.00 KG/FM of maximum torque! So far, the NSX is shaping out to be a pointless car, but here's one thing: it definitely looks better than the RX-7, in my opinion. But that's it, so far. Let's see if we can find out why this costs so much over the RX-7- in other words, I bought both of them and took them for a test drive.
Stings of laps at Tsukuba, the NSX managed to score a very good time of 1.04.595. The RX-7, after strings of laps, only managed 1.06.398. So, the NSX is faster in one area, but what?
On Special Stage Route 7, the RX-7 topped 168 MPH, whilst the NSX managed a higher 173 MPH. For the NSX, it sticks to the road like glue, and flips its tail out like a maniac when you push it too hard. It's extremely responsive and sharp and has very little understeer. The RX-7 is similar, but it doesn't feel quite as delicate or precise as the NSX does.
GEARING
The NSX wins this round. Why? Whilst it doesn't change gear much faster, is has 6 of them, meaning higher top speed for the same power is the case here. It also means that most corners can be taken at the highest power point, another advantage for the NSX.
BRAKING
The NSX slightly outperforms the RX-7 in braking, probably because it's engine is mounted in the middle rather than the front, because when the car brakes, the weight near the front drags the car forward, and since the NSX is a mid-engined car, there is less weight in the front of the car, so it has seemingly more stopping power.
MISCELLANEOUS
Both cars have cockpits and working headlights and horns, though both cockpits are rather dull and uninteresting- you cannot read the RX-7's dials easily in daylight, even. The best cockpit at night is by far the RX-7 because it has a groovy red glow.
CONCLUSION
Get the RX-7. Why? Even though it isn't as sporty, or has near top speed as the NSX, it's much more bang for your buck. However, if you don't mind spending 70,000 MORE on something that is more fun, go ahead, by all means.The NSX is still a great, albeit, an expensive car and a real joy to drive, too.
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Great reviews! I like your style, and I enjoyed reading them.
Great idea. Maybe when PSN is back online, because I have no one else to do 2 player with me xD
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Have to agree with that one, that was my first comparo ever.
And yes, the RX-7 won.
And yes, the RX-7 won.
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I wonder how a 787B would handle with mini brakes.
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Now that WOULD be interesting!
Or maybe Jay Leno's Tank Car, because of it's immense weight and power.
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- Strickand
Because of the price difference. The NSX is the slightly better performer, and in GT5 it is very easy to get enough money for cars in this price range. Anyway nice reviews!
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Hi guys, I'm thinking for my next review, Mitsubishi EVO vs Subaru Impreza- Tarmac, Snow, and Dirt comparisons. What do you think?
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Brakes are weird in this game, there does seem to be MANY cars with the same ones, although I do think many are different, all can lock up but that's a game engine limitation surely.
787b out brakes most cars while the X2010 out brakes everything.
Is it weight ?
Find an old extremely light car in the UCD, there is a few, and do a brake test, X2010 will win, 787B will win.
There are different brakes on the game, just most cars in the same class have very similar brakes. Some do probably have the same.
787b out brakes most cars while the X2010 out brakes everything.
Is it weight ?
Find an old extremely light car in the UCD, there is a few, and do a brake test, X2010 will win, 787B will win.
There are different brakes on the game, just most cars in the same class have very similar brakes. Some do probably have the same.
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Frankly, the car is kinda fast, grips well. The brakes only suck in extreme braking, say a hairpin. It's also the best kept secret for punters.
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PD have access to almost all cars they model, esspecialy premium ones, and Kaz sayd that they put all numbers from reality to virtual world.. and checking braking numbers is very easy (Motor vehicle technical examination" is doing it every year to my car) checking braking, how strong and how fast it responds... I think PD should and did do it.. and then put those numbers to GT... but I know they didnt do it for some cars.. like old ones or very expensive cars... some standart cars seem to be copy paste from premium ones...
anyway all this above is just what I notice and think, and I do search alot of info about GT and PD.. so I might know something, but I might be wrong at some points.
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More suggestions, please?
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Based on the comments up here ^
Maybe a Elise vs. Evora comparo?
Maybe a Elise vs. Evora comparo?
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- counter345
I'm not too sure, because these two are in different leagues. I will do laps in them to see if they come up similar.
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counter345
Are you only up for "premium" models? Some of standarts are awesome.
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R
VS
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI 01
Pagani Zonda R 09
VS
Ferrari Enzo Ferrari 02
Dodge Viper GTS 02
VS
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 10
MINI COOPER S 07
VS
Peugeot 207 GTi 07
I think this might be interesting!
and dont forget about my:
Jaguar E-TYPE Coupe 61
VS
give me a minute to think of......
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe 54
this could be very interesting.... I dont like Jaguar, but this car made me say "wow" when I took it to the "green hell"
it would be good start to review 1st standart model, PD did good job on this one.. thanks, cant wait!
