Car wanted

[tabelins]

I have a question. Does anyone within about 150 miles of Duluth Minnesota happen to have a 1985 Plymouth Caravelle or Dodge 600 for sale? Or at least the body because my engine is still pretty nice. The body on mine is pretty rusty and I would like another one.

 

[1X83Z]

My god - you HAVE an 85-88 Plymouth Caravelle. Please never give this car up or destroy it - I've seen exactly one, ever (and it belongs to a neighbor who bought in November). I sure hope you find a new body and run this vehicle until the engine blows, then exchange the engine and repeat.

 

[tabelins]

I have an 85 and I love it but i was told there is a risk of it falling apart because the underbody is so bad

 

[===o===]

Wow somebody elso lives in Duluth

 

[MrktMkr1986]

My god - you HAVE an 85-88 Plymouth Caravelle.

Is the car pictured above an 85-88 body style?

If so, then I've seen a fair few of these around NY.

 

[1X83Z]

If so, then I've seen a fair few of these around NY. :sly:[/QUOTE]

Are you sure? Very many Chrysler sedans of the time looked very similar, but the Caravelle was far and away the rarest of the bunch.

This for instance is a Chrysler LeBaron sedan - it's similar and was much more popular, but it's no Caravelle:

[img]http://www.chrisgomez.netfirms.com/88lebaron.jpg

And the same applies to the Dodge Aries:

It's not difficult to confuse the vehicles, really, because they looked so damn similar. But the Caravelle was a true rarity.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

Are you sure? Very many Chrysler sedans of the time looked very similar, but the Caravelle was far and away the rarest of the bunch.

This for instance is a Chrysler LeBaron sedan - it's similar and was much more popular, but it's no Caravelle:

And the same applies to the Dodge Aries:

It's not difficult to confuse the vehicles, really, because they looked so damn similar. But the Caravelle was a true rarity.

I see what your saying... but I'm sure I've seen this car before. The LeBaron and the Aries are smaller cars are they not?

If it wasn't a Caravelle that I saw, then it was the Dodge version, the 600, but I am positive I've seen that particular body style before.

 

[tabelins]

Is the car pictured above an 85-88 body style?

If so, then I've seen a fair few of these around NY.

Thats an 85 it has a slightly different front end than the 86-88. I like the 85 better but they're so hard to find.

 

[1X83Z]

I see what your saying... but I'm sure I've seen this car before. The LeBaron and the Aries are smaller cars are they not?

The Aries is. The LeBaron's less smaller but it still looks very similar.

If it wasn't a Caravelle that I saw, then it was the Dodge version, the 600, but I am positive I've seen that particular body style before.

It's not as if it doesn't exist, but I wouldn't say there's a 'fair few' of them anywhere on this planet. (this may be a good thing)

I like the 85 better but they're so hard to find.

Really? I like the 86-88 better - gives it the 'stretched Aries' look that's so popular. Indeed they are hard to find. Sorry 'bout that

 

[MrktMkr1986]

The Plymouth Caravelle has a 2.2-liter 4-cylinder engine with 99 horsepower and a 3-speed automatic transmission. That's all I know about it.

How much power did the turbo version and 2.6-liter 4-cylinder have... can't find anything on them.

 

[1X83Z]

The Plymouth Caravelle has a 2.2-liter 4-cylinder engine with 99 horsepower and a 3-speed automatic transmission. That's all I know about it.

How much power did the turbo version and 2.6-liter 4-cylinder have... can't find anything on them.

There was also a 2.5. If I'm right they had a 2.2 and a 2.2 Turbo from 1985 to 1988, a 2.6 in 1985 and 1986, and a 2.5 in 1987 and 1988. Not speaking for the Canadian market, who got the vehicle in 1983.

2.2 = 99hp
2.2 Turbo = 142hp
2.6 = 112hp
2.5 = 100hp

On a side note, the 2.6 was built by Mitsubishi and used in the 1987-1992 Mazda B2600, though I don't believe it was used in the Ford Ranger, so unfortunately a Chrysler-Ford tie cannot be established here.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

There was also a 2.5. If I'm right they had a 2.2 and a 2.2 Turbo from 1985 to 1988, a 2.6 in 1985 and 1986, and a 2.5 in 1987 and 1988. Not speaking for the Canadian market, who got the vehicle in 1983.

2.2 = 99hp
2.2 Turbo = 142hp
2.6 = 112hp
2.5 = 100hp

On a side note, the 2.6 was built by Mitsubishi and used in the 1987-1992 Mazda B2600, though I don't believe it was used in the Ford Ranger,

Thanks for info! 👍

so unfortunately a Chrysler-Ford tie cannot be established here.

Damn, I actually started wishing for a Viper-powered Focus, or a Ford GT-powered SRT-4 when I first started reading that!

Also, were all of those engines (2.2, 2.2 turbo, 2.6, 2.5) discontinued or did any of them evolve into a engine that we still use today, or at least have used within the past few years (3-5?)?

 

[Emohawk]

2.2 = 99hp

If I recall from my period of Aries ownership (I miss that little crapbox), that's the carby spec. Fuel injected 2.2s (Starting in '86 for the Aries, at least) made more.

 

[1X83Z]

Also, were all of those engines (2.2, 2.2 turbo, 2.6, 2.5) discontinued or did any of them evolve into a engine that we still use today, or at least have used within the past few years (3-5?)?

No idea - I'm not too good on engines through the years.

If I recall from my period of Aries ownership (I miss that little crapbox), that's the carby spec. Fuel injected 2.2s (Starting in '86 for the Aries, at least) made more.

I think it made more torque. If the power figure increased it didn't go past 103.

 

[Emohawk]

The final word, Allpar says:
"The 2.2 ranged in power over its life. In 1985, the carbureted version was rated at 96 hp (but only 119 lb-ft of torque). The fuel injected version started out at 99 hp / 121 lb-ft, with a high output version (for the 2.2 Charger, etc) at 110 hp and 129 lb-ft of torque."
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/22.html
That should have the info you're looking for as well, MrktMkr1986.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

The final word, Allpar says:
"The 2.2 ranged in power over its life. In 1985, the carbureted version was rated at 96 hp (but only 119 lb-ft of torque). The fuel injected version started out at 99 hp / 121 lb-ft, with a high output version (for the 2.2 Charger, etc) at 110 hp and 129 lb-ft of torque."
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/22.html
That should have the info you're looking for as well, MrktMkr1986.

Thank you. 👍

 

[1X83Z]

This Caravelle at the end of my block rocks - it's got a turbo in it. Why don't I have a turbo Caravelle? Because they made like 50.

Speaking of which, did you guys know that Volkswagen made a stretched version of the Eurovan in Europe and called it the Caravelle?

 

[Klostrophobic]

I--so--did not know that, but now I do. I don't think I've ever seen a Caravelle and I certainly have never heard of it.

But now I want one.

Thank you, Mr. Demure-o.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

This Caravelle at the end of my block rocks - it's got a turbo in it. Why don't I have a turbo Caravelle? Because they made like 50.

Speaking of which, did you guys know that Volkswagen made a stretched version of the Eurovan in Europe and called it the Caravelle?

You should also post that in my "Which Came First" thread.

 

[Emohawk]

I'm sure I've seen that specific front end before. I'm just going to say it was a 600, I'll be looking closely from now on though.
Saw an Avenger today, aren't those pretty rare? I've only seen 3-4.

 

[1X83Z]

I'm sure I've seen that specific front end before. I'm just going to say it was a 600, I'll be looking closely from now on though.
Saw an Avenger today, aren't those pretty rare? I've only seen 3-4.

A Dodge Avenger? The coupe version of the Stratus? They're everywhere! And here's a secret: they were the letdown of the 1990s. Actually, nearly every vehicle Chrysler produced in the 1990s could fit that definition - consider:

- the LH cars, released in 1993, meant to 'save Chrysler' and, against their own rules, recommended by ConsumerReports their first year on the market, turned out to be reliably crap; CR was forced to retract the rating the following year
- the wondrous Stratus, Cirrus and Breeze, meant to 'save Chrysler' which came out two years after a redesigned Camry and one year after a redesigned Accord and were nowhere near as good; none of the three models still exist
- The V6 Dodge Avenger, the Ford Probe competitor, whose V6 didn't beat 9.6 seconds to 60mph
- The Jeep Grand Cherokee, one of the least reliable SUVs of the 1990s
- The Jeep Wrangler, the least reliable SUV of the 1990s
- The Chrysler LeBaron, considered ass-kicking in the late-1980s, referred to as 'a survivor from another era' by the mid-90s - yet they continued to sell the damn thing
- The Mitsubishi years, which involved the Dodge Stealth, which wasn't allowed - by popular demand - to pace the Indy 500 because of its Mitsubishi origins, and the other Mitsubishi-based failures: Dodge Colt, Plymouth Colt, Eagle Summit (and Summit Wagon, perhaps the worst Eagle of all), not to mention the cars Chrysler gave to Mitsubishi like the Mighty Max, which was cancelled not by Mitsubishi or Chrysler but by the United States government for not meeting varios safety requirements
- the early-90s Dodge pickups
- Eagle (the 'sport' division, created in 1988 and dropped in 1998)
- Plymouth (the 'budget' division, dropped in 2000)

About the only thing Chrysler got right in that decade was minivans, the Viper, and the Neon - the former and the latter of which have since turned to crap.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

No wonder Daimler-Benz had to step in to save Chrysler...

Actually, I think the Eagle Talon (95-97?) is the best looking DSM. Way better than the 3000GT/Stealth and Laser/Eclipse .

 

[Emohawk]

Really? Everywhere? Maybe they're just rare in Canada. Or maybe just where I am.
How about the 78-84 Galant knockoffs, Challenger/Sapporo? I've seen one of those in a junkyard, and that's about it.

 

[1X83Z]

No wonder Daimler-Benz had to step in to save Chrysler...

Yeah, really.

Actually, I think the Eagle Talon (95-97?) is the best looking DSM. Way better than the 3000GT/Stealth and Laser/Eclipse .

I think the 90-94 Talon is. The second-generation Talon actually ran 1995 to 1998, though the last model year is pretty scarce because few were stupid enough to buy the vehicle when the brand had already been effectively dropped.

 

[300TURBOVS]

So... what's a Caravelle?

 

[Joey D]

Dodge 600

Plymouth Caravelle

And that took me exactly 30 seconds to find. You would be surprised how much cardomain.com helps.