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hi, i hope i'm not the first to ask this because i looked in the forum and found nothing, anyway, when i'm on the 24 sarthe II in B-SPEC with my mercedes sauber c9 then sudenly on the straight it starts to brake and stops, WHY? i could use the settings for this race (if anybody wants to give it to me) but i want to know what the reason is for this time to time problem: is it the brakes, the height of the car,... i don't know.
cheers
 
I've had a similar problem (with a bunch of other cars) -- my brakes will suddenly start to "catch" the wheels a bit (the brake indicator will be slightly up) and slow me down. I've also stalled at the beginning of a few races.

I think PD's trying to imitate "real life problems" or something. *shrugs*
 
Sounds like you may have just discovered a new and rare GT4 glitch. If you're the first, well, congratulations, I guess...

But first, give us some more details. Did it just stop dead for good, or did it get going again? Did it creep slowly around to the pits and go in for fuel? Please tell us as much as you can.

(This reminds me of an AI glitch I saw in the Sarthe II 24-hour, in which an R89C acted like it was having ignition or fuel feed problems for a couple of laps, then suddenly got better and continued on normally.)
 
Sage
I've had a similar problem (with a bunch of other cars) -- my brakes will suddenly start to "catch" the wheels a bit (the brake indicator will be slightly up) and slow me down. I've also stalled at the beginning of a few races.

I think PD's trying to imitate "real life problems" or something. *shrugs*
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Are you using the wheels and pedals to race with, or are you using the DS2? Cause i've heard of the brake pedal becoming loose, and the sensor catching it, thinkin that your brakin, therefore, applyin brakes to the car...

And Harold, is that the race with the chycannes (sp?) or without? If its the one without, maybe its thinking they're there, but really they're not, and its just a glitch? Whats your B-Spec levels, possibly its the driver not knowing the course, and thinkin he has to stop?! Just a couple ideas.
 
We can call this the Nigel Mansell Bug...

I had this happen to me just today during the F1 Championship. Good thing I was WAY ahead in points, so I could basically not run the last few races and still win.

The car would just stop on the straightaway and accelerate to like 55 mph, then stop again. It would do this for 3 or 4 laps (thus putting me 3 to 4 laps down) and I came in 6th.

Good thing it happened after I had the championship locked up.
 
harald
hi, i hope i'm not the first to ask this because i looked in the forum and found nothing, anyway, when i'm on the 24 sarthe II in B-SPEC with my mercedes sauber c9 then sudenly on the straight it starts to brake and stops, WHY? i could use the settings for this race (if anybody wants to give it to me) but i want to know what the reason is for this time to time problem: is it the brakes, the height of the car,... i don't know.
cheers
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That reminds me of a medicine commercial I see on TV where female backup singers sing, "And I don't have to go right now!"

It's most likely a bug in the game, or your B-spec driver needs to stop taking those meds ;). I don't think ettings will affect what the driver does, because he'll always brake and stop. Try another car with similar settings and see if he stops braking. If that works, just don't use the car again.
 
sarthe II guys means without the chicanes, i modified settings about that problem, got the car a little higher and i just think that maybe some extra weight for the car could be usefull if the reason of that stopping has to do with the bouncing of the car( because of the speed or some dirt on the track). the car continious after the incident but look, has anybody see already in reality brakes that block because of the temperature... when it happens i feel like this is it but whatever, who's got good settings for this race 24houres of sartheII(notice the plane of some airshow when you start the race, right in front of the start)
 
SRV2LOW4ME
Are you using the wheels and pedals to race with, or are you using the DS2? Cause i've heard of the brake pedal becoming loose, and the sensor catching it, thinkin that your brakin, therefore, applyin brakes to the car...
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DS2. I'll admit it's a well-worn DS2 though -- I played GT3 almost to 100% with it, and now the same one for GT4. It lost its shininess a long time ago.

The stalling really bugs though, especially in the middle of a championship series.
 
I've had that problem. On La Sarthe II during the 24 hour race. I was B-Speccing in my Mobil 1 NSX and every time it got to the very bottom of the main straight, once it had turned through the 90 degree right-hand turn it would slow down to 11MPH for about 10 seconds, then suddenly speed up again and carry on.
 
Matty Ryan
I've had that problem. On La Sarthe II during the 24 hour race. I was B-Speccing in my Mobil 1 NSX and every time it got to the very bottom of the main straight, once it had turned through the 90 degree right-hand turn it would slow down to 11MPH for about 10 seconds, then suddenly speed up again and carry on.
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Is that not the car and lack of low-end torque? I recall one of the Nissan's was decidely slow from 0-30, i.e. at low rev's, but once you got the thing into 2nd gear, it would pick up no problem.... ?
 
Maybe PD's attention to detail; something causes cars to do this at Sarthe? Maybe there is something drivers in real life do to combat this problem....Or maybe just a bug.


Screwtape
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that all of the above posts refer to incidents in the Sarthe II (no chicanes), 24-hour enduro, right?

If so, then we can pretty much come to the conclusion that somehow, in some way, these are random B-Spec programming glitches that only happen in this one event. Remember, this is the race in which some cars suddenly just turn left or right while blasting down the long straight, and slam into the wall.

Sounds to me like the Sarthe II track is just borked in B-Spec. I don't think there's anything we can do about it.
 
Well, I've never had it happen at Sarthe II. I've had it at several tracks (off the top of my head, I can remember Midfield and one of those stupid Fuji tracks). Granted, I've never had a full-on stop in the middle of a race, but I've stalled in the beginning of a race.
 
Well, now I think of it. Didn't have this myself, but I think the AI in the Formula GT had it sometimes. For example, in Monaco, suddenly an AI car drives very slowly for a couple of laps and after a while he continues like nothing has happened. That happened on another track as well, dunno anymore which one.

Weird bug this is.... :scared:
 
i think lots of people have that problem, maybe they just don't know it, the thing is that the circuit of lemans is on a public road, you know, so you can have some defects. I was doing 24sarthe II but quited due to that problem again, sniff, i landed second while i wasn't in front of tv, i hate it.
 
Uh, depends on the car... for higher-powered cars I'll usually launch at around 3000rpm (fast enough to "blip" the tires, but not so fast that I needlessly spin them, since I go without TCS). So in the few seconds before the race I'm usually fiddling with the gas to get the needle where I want it to be.

I think I even stalled during a license test once, which struck me as really odd.
 
To those who have had this problem - does it happen where the chicanes are in Le Sarthe I.

It could be that II is an after thought and did not have a lot of testing - I found it strange that it is labelled II when it is the older track formation.

edit - also what are B-Spec Bob's stats for those with the problem - is it Bob staining his undies due to the speed he is being asked to go ?
 
When the car "stalls" at the begining of a race, does the tachometer drop to 0 rpm, or does it just stay at Idle and not rev when you give it gas?

Also, does the problem solve itself after a bit, or do you just have to exit the race?
 
I'm sorry....this is way off topic.....

Sage: I had to read that book (in your sig) in high school, and I really didn't want to. But once I opened it up, I could not put it down......

amazing how literature can open your mind.....
 
jimihemmy
I'm sorry....this is way off topic.....

Sage: I had to read that book (in your sig) in high school, and I really didn't want to. But once I opened it up, I could not put it down......

amazing how literature can open your mind.....
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You HAD to read this book in high school? I'm guessing you are from the U.S. - here in Canada, Ayn Rand is looked upon as some sort of anti-Christ by the socialist education police.

For my part I also read this book and loved it. Another great book is "The Power of One" - it too underscores the importance of the individual and how each person can make a huge difference, it is also a terrific fictional read.

Again - sorry for being off topic - but on topic, I too have had some mystery experiences with B-spec although I can't be too specific. I was B-spec'ing the 'ring and was well ahead, put it on 3X and did something else. When I came back I was about 2 laps back! I took over control of my B-spec driver and managed to work back in front.

I have no idea what happened to my driver during that interval but it was certainly weird.
 
harald
hi, i hope i'm not the first to ask this because i looked in the forum and found nothing, anyway, when i'm on the 24 sarthe II in B-SPEC with my mercedes sauber c9 then sudenly on the straight it starts to brake and stops, WHY? i could use the settings for this race (if anybody wants to give it to me) but i want to know what the reason is for this time to time problem: is it the brakes, the height of the car,... i don't know.
cheers
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Are you watching when this happens or in the 3x mode screen? Most instances of similar "bugs" turn out to be a ride height issue.
 
What's up with this stalling at the beginning of a race? :odd: What happens to the car?

I'm not aware of any way to restart the engine once it has died.

How do you continue with the race once your car has stalled on the start line?... :confused:
 
inferno
When the car "stalls" at the begining of a race, does the tachometer drop to 0 rpm, or does it just stay at Idle and not rev when you give it gas?
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It'll let me rev before the start of the race, but once the race starts the tach will drop to 0, and will just shake a little if I try to give it gas (and the engine will sort of "mumble").

Also, does the problem solve itself after a bit, or do you just have to exit the race?
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During one race, I waited it out for about one minute (of course, the rest of the field was already nearly completing a lap at this point), and then it suddenly worked again. Every other race though I didn't even bother waiting to see if it'd work; I just went ahead and quit.0

jimihemmy
Sage: I had to read that book (in your sig) in high school, and I really didn't want to. But once I opened it up, I could not put it down......
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Oh, definitely – I read it for a week straight, like 10 hours a day. Most life-changing literature I've ever read.

Anyway, this (as you've conceded) isn't the place to talk about it, but if you meander over to the Opinions forum you'll find several other Objectivists. ;)
 
Well chump, I do do the races on my own... I've never touched B-spec.
 
I had this happen to me in the NISSAN R92CP Race Car on the Le Sarth II endurance race... the car would slow down to about 11 mph on the straight. I found that if I changed the pace setting it would rectify itself. For instance, if I turned 'overtaking' on or off... it would speed up again. Thankfully, it only happened on a a couple of laps. Same race with the Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car however, and there were no problems... but I see from this thread that even that car is getting this bug.

However, I CANNOT get a decent race with the Formula 1 car on this circuit... with or without the chicanes.. it will just turn into the barriers for no reason, on any pace setting. I have adjusted the downforce, played about with camber, ride height, turned all driving aids off... but nothing helps. Even in in the 24 hour endurance races were the F1 car is the class of the field, it will usually trail about in 6th place. In fact, the F1 car also does this on the long straight at Nurburgring, but not to the same disaterous effect. You need to be getting ahead of the feild in this car because you will pit more often for tyres.
 

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