Cars that became completely different beasts from GT5 to GT6

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With the new physics of tires and suspension, some, if not many cars changed drastically between the two games.

The one more noticeable to me is certainly the Lotus Evora. It was my favorite car in GT5. I loved lapping a "replica" of the Evora S I made around Nordschleife in Comfort Softs. The car was so neutral, so precise, it would go where I wanted it to go when I wanted it. I didn't see a wheel in my hands, it was more like telekinesis.

On GT6, I just can't control it for nothing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the people complaining about MR cars being uncontrollable. I lapped the McLaren F1 on CS around the Green Hell much easier than I did on GT5. But for some reason it took me several tries to manage to do one lap in the "Evora S".

I'm not saying it's wrong now, because I've never driven an Evora. But it seems strange that Lotus being an expert in suspension tuning, would sell a car that handles that way.

Well, I'm waiting for the community's thoughts on the subject.

PS: I searched the forums and didn't find a thread about this subject. If it already exists, please point me to it and close this one.
 
Formula Gran Turismo. I was concerned I'd wasted my money, considering it was rubbish in pretty much every way in GT5 (wheelspin, crazy handling, oversteer). Now, it's pretty much one of the best cars in the game. Everything about it excellent now - the acceleration, the controllable way it puts power down, the fantastically stable handling, with no oversteer or understeer (unless you drive it like a complete idiot).

As a bonus, it's been remodelled and looks tons better, and comes in a number of new colour schemes.
 
chzsln485
Formula Gran Turismo. I was concerned I'd wasted my money, considering it was rubbish in pretty much every way in GT5 (wheelspin, crazy handling, oversteer). Now, it's pretty much one of the best cars in the game. Everything about it excellent now - the acceleration, the controllable way it puts power down, the fantastically stable handling, with no oversteer or understeer (unless you drive it like a complete idiot).
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I thought it was robbed of a personality. The difficulty of the car was what made the car, and something that took time to learn and eventually know it to be fast with it. Formula type cars arn't easy to drive, and I thought it defined that well. It offered a challenge & extremely fun in GT5 without a tune.

Now in GT6 it's just too easy. Sterile. I'm sure PD just moved the physics model from the F2007 over, and it made me very sad. And it's worse that you've stated it's purely more enjoyable when it's extremely easy. :(
 
Squach240
I thought it was robbed of a personality. The difficulty of the car was what made the car, and something that took time to learn and eventually know it to be fast with it. Formula type cars arn't easy to drive, and I thought it defined that well. It offered a challenge & extremely fun in GT5 without a tune.

Now in GT6 it's just too easy. Sterile. I'm sure PD just moved the physics model from the F2007 over, and it made me very sad. And it's worse that you've stated it's purely more enjoyable when it's extremely easy. :(
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I do like cars with personality that
are challenging to drive, but I didn't really feel that in the same way I do when using things like the F40. I simply found the FGT bad. I find there's a difference between challenging cars and ones which are prohibitively difficult to drive, and I feel the GT5 FGT fell into the latter category.
 
Well they could move the physics from the F2007, but I think that they just carried the FGT physics over, but with the FGT physics under the new GT6 engine, it performs much better. The only thing I have to get used to is taking corners at faster speeds than usual because the downforce doesn't really work if you go too slow.
 
Squach240
Now in GT6 it's just too easy. Sterile. I'm sure PD just moved the physics model from the F2007 over, and it made me very sad. And it's worse that you've stated it's purely more enjoyable when it's extremely easy. :(
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Given the car's description, the GT5 version was abysmal. The FGT should sit midway between the Ferrari's and the full on X1. I also kind of liked how it drove in GT5 despite being unrealistic because it was fun to reign in. On the other hand, I didn't like that it was so ridiculously handicapped.
 
The Audi '01 R8 LM car was a blast to drive in GT 5 and in GT 6 it has become a monster that's all over the place and even when it is tuned is rather twitchy......makes this Audi fan a bit sad. On the bright side the Audi Rally cars are some of the funnest cars I have driven.....they may not have great top speed but the handle the twisty parts of the track quite well......
 
Lets see.. Ford Mustangs in general. TK ZZ-II. RUF CTR2.. And many others.
 
psavi
With the new physics of tires and suspension, some, if not many cars changed drastically between the two games.

The one more noticeable to me is certainly the Lotus Evora. It was my favorite car in GT5. I loved lapping a "replica" of the Evora S I made around Nordschleife in Comfort Softs. The car was so neutral, so precise, it would go where I wanted it to go when I wanted it. I didn't see a wheel in my hands, it was more like telekinesis.

On GT6, I just can't control it for nothing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the people complaining about MR cars being uncontrollable. I lapped the McLaren F1 on CS around the Green Hell much easier than I did on GT5. But for some reason it took me several tries to manage to do one lap in the "Evora S".

I'm not saying it's wrong now, because I've never driven an Evora. But it seems strange that Lotus being an expert in suspension tuning, would sell a car that handles that way.

Well, I'm waiting for the community's thoughts on the subject.

PS: I searched the forums and didn't find a thread about this subject. If it already exists, please point me to it and close this one.
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I very much agree with you on the evora, was really easy to drive hard in GT5 and now I have to drive it carefully so that I don't crash. I thought the evora is supposed to be easy to drive for everyone
 
The r8 LMS in gt5 was my favourite car and It was fun to drive around the ring but now in gt6 it is messed up and it is harder to drive and enjoy
 
Tier 2 Racing
McLaren 12C.

In GT5 in stock trim I just could not turn consistent laps. Even with a good suspension tune it would bite me if pushed too hard or didn't do my job.

Now in GT6, it's one of the fastest MR's in the game. No tuning, sport hard tires, it's just awesome.
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I will have to test that one. I know I didn't like it much on GT5.
 
All of the RUFs. They're not absolutely crazy anymore, the oversteer doesn't come right when you turn anymore. It's a bit delayed.
 
Tier 2 Racing
McLaren 12C.

In GT5 in stock trim I just could not turn consistent laps. Even with a good suspension tune it would bite me if pushed too hard or didn't do my job.

Now in GT6, it's one of the fastest MR's in the game. No tuning, sport hard tires, it's just awesome.
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Agreed!
 
Ferrari F40

GT5 - Horrible understeer on entry and mid-corner. Poor traction leading to snap-oversteer on exits.

GT6 - Great balance, tricky under braking though. Good bite on turn in, with a nervous balance to oversteer but great traction when you catch it. Exciting and hugely better plus faster lap times than GT5. One of GT6 physics success stories I think.
 
DrPuppetwarrior
The r8 LMS in gt5 was my favourite car and It was fun to drive around the ring but now in gt6 it is messed up and it is harder to drive and enjoy
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Go here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/praiano-gt6-tunes-audi-r18-tdi-anniv-ed-11-650pp.291084/
Praiano's tune might change your mind about the Audi, it did mine. Although the GT-R is more comfortable to push hard, with that tune the R8 LMS is the fastest GT3 car for me. Just mind the curbs, she can get unsettled pretty quick.
 
Even with Praianos tune (and as always his work is top-notch so it's certainly no reflection on his tuning skills!) the R8 LMS is still not a patch on how it was in GT5. It was a beast, so planted, perfectly judged and nearly always predictable but now it's just a mess. It's easier to predict the lottery than what that car might do next!!
 
Motor Sport Elise 99 & Audi R8 LM/GT3 have gone from brilliant in GT5 to just bad in GT6.

McLaren MP4 12C & Ford GT40 Mk1 have gone from terrible in GT5 to brilliant in GT6.
 
From a personal point of view I never got along with the Lotus Elise, any of them really! But now the 111R (premium version) is right up there with my favourites and is my Bathurst beast!
 
I think its hilarious how everyone says "this car is broken/undrivable" yet when you ask for more realism you trash it as soon as you try it....


Some of you need to realize not all cars handle like you moms wagon...
 
In defence of myself (38, no mum) I used to have an Elise that I enjoyed driving 'enthusiasticly' so to have the chance in GT5 to drive one was great - except I just couldn't get along with it! It was absolutely nothing like in real life, an insult to Lotus's handling gurus but now in GT6 it feels just how i remember it and that's why it's become one of my favourites. Makes me want another in real life again now!
 
chzsln485
Formula Gran Turismo. I was concerned I'd wasted my money, considering it was rubbish in pretty much every way in GT5 (wheelspin, crazy handling, oversteer). Now, it's pretty much one of the best cars in the game. Everything about it excellent now - the acceleration, the controllable way it puts power down, the fantastically stable handling, with no oversteer or understeer (unless you drive it like a complete idiot).

As a bonus, it's been remodelled and looks tons better, and comes in a number of new colour schemes.
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Disagree... the FGT was great in GT5 as long as you set it up properly. Maybe not as smooth as the Ferrari F1 cars but still great and crazy fast.
 
NixxxoN
The FGT was great in GT5 as long as you set it up properly.
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Exactly. This is the key bit - tuned properly, it was actually a very good car. When completely stock, however, it was extremely difficult to drive well. In GT6, it handles very similarly stock to how it did when tuned properly in GT5 (or at least the tune I used, which I found somewhere on GTP).
 
Swagger897
I think its hilarious how everyone says "this car is broken/undrivable" yet when you ask for more realism you trash it as soon as you try it....


Some of you need to realize not all cars handle like you moms wagon...
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i think this comment that shows up in every thread is hilarious!
If you know anything about the human mind you know why so many want to say this all the time!

The people finding these troubled cars are people that KNOW how to drive! Thats how they know they are wrong! If it wasnt for these people the rim bug would not have been found, and hopefully fixed soon.
 
I'll have to go with the F40 and the Yellowbird.

I GT5 they were barely drivable now they are challenging but ultimately rewarding.

The Countach 88 seems to have loosened up a bit.
 
Swagger897
It is for almost any car in GT6, which is how it should be...
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. That's not how it should be, at least not always.

Not every car should have to be tuned to become a very good car. A lot of cars leave the factory with amazing handling. That is what I expect of the Lotuses at least. As I said I never drove a Lotus Evora, but every review I read says that it handles like a dream and that it is one of the better driver's cars in the world. The Evora on GT6 just isn't.
 

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