the forza2 lap time penaltie system worked well! On GT5 u can take a kerb one lap get a penalty then not get one the next lap
Or Get rammed by the AI in a race and get a penalty for it lol. inconsistent at best.......
the forza2 lap time penaltie system worked well! On GT5 u can take a kerb one lap get a penalty then not get one the next lap
Wow thats even worse. Hopefully ,hackers get banned for pulling off otherwise unfair tactic. If they could do that to that car, would do you think they could with the other cars? Looks like another reason to be nervous about online. And I believe the car you are reffering to is the Ford GT Test Car. For some reason, everyone seems to mistake with the GT40 despite their being a huge difference.Cheaters? Try hackers! Don't believe me?
Go to the P650 online time trial for Daytona. Now look at the guy in second place. He's got a time of 43 seconds with a Ford GT40 Test car (he's only two seconds behind the F2007 BTW!), Not too shabby... Now look at his setup.
He's got R3's front and back! Now I'll be damned if I can get anything more than sports tyres on the GT40, and that's after adding maximum weight, lowering the HP considerably, and lowering the aerodynamic to the absolute minimum!
Honestly, by the time you shoe-horn the GT40 into the 650 point limit (it starts off with circa 750 points!), its so gimped out, that it can do nothing but waddle around the track like a fat old tart! So what gives?
Someone might correct me if i am wrong.. But I don't think there are records for ANY events.. The leaderboards are purely for the Time/Drift trials under the 'arcade' mode....
There may be other leaderboards in the game, but I don't think they are as thorough..
So for the 'trial mode', where you simply set your fastest lap in a session, it goes into the leaderboard against the track/car you were using.. If its in the top 10, your 'video' is saved too.
Can anyone confirm if this is right? Are there any other records/leaderboards in the game??
Jon
Oh, oh. I'm back to worried again, since I'll definitely be racing Professional mode, not Standard (ie Arcade mode). I'm willing to live without online times counting towards the leaderboards, but please don't tell me, the leaderboards don't separate Arcade times from Professional Times... Crap!.
I think you are confused.. Again, I could be wrong, but this is how I see it...
When you go into the 'rankings', there are 71x12x2 leaderboards (71 cars, 12 tracks and 2 modes (Drift and Time))...
Each of these leaderboards are populated based on what car you are driving and what track you are on.. But it has nothing to do with 'setup'...
So, no matter if you are running ABS, TCS, Standard/Pro physics, its makes no difference.. All laps for a given car on a given track go into the same leaderboard.
The times are taken from sessions that you play (Time and Drift) under the Arcade menu.
As I said, there could be other leaderboards and stats in the game.. But the only on-line rankings I am aware of are the ones I have talked about above.
Jon
Thanks Jon, since I don't have it yet this helps. The quanity of leaderboards sounds excellent, it's the filters and what modes which are captured, I'm concerned with since I won't race in arcade mode...
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Where do you live, because I didn't know Gamefly shipped outside North America and the NA version won't be available until April 17th. So, if you are in NA you won't be able to download before then either.I'm so close to downloading off PSN, because Gamefly is going to take another 3 weeks at least!
You know, I quit playing Monopoly with certain people because they acted like this. I don't want to start cheating and lower my personal standards just to try to prove to myself I can be better than a cheater. The fact that I don't cheat already proves to me that I am better than a cheater.lol, who cares...It's not cheating...If they do it and you want to be on top, do it back. It's all about who does it better.
Where do you live, because I didn't know Gamefly shipped outside North America and the NA version won't be available until April 17th. So, if you are in NA you won't be able to download before then either.
If you are not in NA, and Gamefly does ship outside, then I think the delay is that Gamefly is US based so they won't have the game until the North American version comes out.
I may of read the posts wrong, but I just want to say that standard and professional have separate boards in the time trials, which are located in the arcade section, at least thats the way it is in the JPN copy.
Chronos, that's what I was asking. Jon thinks the Professional mode, doesn't have it's own leaderboard, but you say it does. If it does, them I'm fine with doing Time Trials using Professional mode assuming the Standard physics don't have all the top times.
In Forza the top times generally had maybe ABS (sometimes not even ABS), but often none of the other driving aids. There wasn't really an arcade mode online. People just chose whether to use AT, ABS, STM and TCM. You could be just as fast without any aids, so it didn't matter, because the physics model was always the same.
It seems like there is a big step from Standard to Professional physics in Prologue from what I'm reading. The driving aids seem the same for both Standard and Pro, but Standard has different physics.... Forza just had the driving aids, so the physics stayed the same. If the leaderboards are separate, I wouldn't care because I'd just worry about the professional leaderboard. If they're combined and it doesn't even show what aids were use to set your time or whether you were on Standard or Professional Physics, then it's an issue...
Also, did someone above say you can't race online in Professional mode? That doesn't sound right.
Lastly, on each of those leaderboards can you filter by just your friends. I like to compete with friends and with thousands of people you need to be able to filter by friends? Thanks.
I may of read the posts wrong, but I just want to say that standard and professional have separate boards in the time trials, which are located in the arcade section, at least thats the way it is in the JPN copy.
That's what I noticed too. Right after I installed the JPN download I went out an fooled around at Daytona Road Course in the TT. The rankings had a heading at the top for professional mode.
I don't want to start cheating and lower my personal standards just to try to prove to myself I can be better than a cheater. The fact that I don't cheat already proves to me that I am better than a cheater.
No one has answered this though. Is there a way to see your friends time(s) without paging through thousands of times?
You can't page through thousands of times, all you can see are the top 100 drivers. As for checking your friends times, thats only possible if they are in the top 100 also.
When it comes to to your friends, GT5has to be the most primative online game ever made. I'm still finding it hard to believe that there is no way of finding your mates online, or inviting them into a race. Come on PD those are basic 'gamers rights'!
Cheaters? Try hackers! Don't believe me?
Go to the P650 online time trial for Daytona. Now look at the guy in second place. He's got a time of 43 seconds with a Ford GT40 Test car (he's only two seconds behind the F2007 BTW!), Not too shabby... Now look at his setup.
He's got R3's front and back! Now I'll be damned if I can get anything more than sports tyres on the GT40, and that's after adding maximum weight, lowering the HP considerably, and lowering the aerodynamic to the absolute minimum!
Honestly, by the time you shoe-horn the GT40 into the 650 point limit (it starts off with circa 750 points!), its so gimped out, that it can do nothing but waddle around the track like a fat old tart! So what gives?
👍 I agree with you there. LordofLordz, would you lower your own standards just to be "better"? I would never bring myself to their level just to be "better". Thats just not what a competitor like Foolkiller or me would do(at least I believe so). We don't like to stoop to low levels like that just to win. We would rather do it in a fair and competitive enviroment, which to me is much more rewarding. You might think that doing it back works fine but to be quite honest, how would that make us any better then a cheater if we only did the same thing they did?You know, I quit playing Monopoly with certain people because they acted like this. I don't want to start cheating and lower my personal standards just to try to prove to myself I can be better than a cheater. The fact that I don't cheat already proves to me that I am better than a cheater.
No, no version for NA has come out yet, unless you import.Oh. I'm in the USA. I thought the PSN version was out now, but the disk version was April 17th. I guess I won't be downloading today no matter what. Are people playing the European or Japanese versions?
That's good, then the Professional times will be separate from the Standard times as it should be. That helps.
No one has answered this though. Is there a way to see your friends time(s) without paging through thousands of times?
Don't complain too much as Europe usually gets everything last and it is nice to see them getting something first.
Well, it is an accepted fact that Japan gets nearly all games first. So, any conversation after that purely ignores the fact that the Japanese markets get the early rollouts.If by "first" you mean "only 3 months after Japan" then yeah, I agree.![]()
Now I am confused.. I will need to check this tonight, as I was sure that Standard and Pro were all on the same leaderboard.
When you click on each person, you can see what 'aids' they are using.. And I was pretty sure that you can see that some are PRO and other STANDARD...
I am almost certainly wrong, but this is certainly how I remembered it...
I will check when I get home from work and report back
Jon
If you can slap a barrier in real life then why not in a sim?
funny,am now 3rd in timetrail 650 hsr.......like a few thousands behind nr 2(...damn...just a few more feet!!!)....and 20!!!!!seconds behind nr1 wich is the f1.....so when more people do that track with f1 and take all first places...i have to wait untill i get mine,and thats a few weeks away....hmmmm,maybe there should be a seperate tt for f12007.........!!