Chrysler to get rid of some models

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Some? They should get rid of like half or more. xD

It's their fault for following GM... Even Ford wasn't as stupid.
 
Good. Ax these: Pacifica, Durango, Sebring (barring a complete facelift), Crossfire, and the PT Cruiser. Give the Mitsubishi Raider a V8, and call it a day.
 
I can count one my nose the number of Mitsubishi Raiders I've seen with my own two eyes. It's a white one in the architecture parking lot at NDSU.

Why not nix the raider?
 
Because the Raider looks cooler. Advertise for it, give it the new 4.7 Liter V8.
 
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Auto industry analysts predict the Chrysler Pacifica, Dodge Dakota, and Jeep Commander and Compass could face elimination. A company insider included those vehicles among a list of vehicles facing review. The source and another familiar with Chrysler's design pipeline also questioned the future of the Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Durango.

I'd say that they're all fair-game to be cut. Generally speaking, I'd rank most of those vehicles at the bottom of their respective classes, although I'd still say that the Sebring and Durango could be saved with more clever design to start. A refresh on the Sebring will be needed, both inside and out, but otherwise most of it is still good. As for the Durango, they may as well make it a full-size SUV based on the Ram and call it a day.

...Cut the models that don't sell and you're bound to make more money...

While they're at it, design a new PT Cruiser and make a few people happy...
 
I'm liking the proposed vehicle axe's. I would also like to add to axe the the PT Loser and the Avenger.
 
Heck, why don't they scrap every Chrysler but the 300 and maybe the van. The Sebring can probably be saved and an updated PT might sell, along with some others being totally rethought. On the Dodge side, keep the Charger, Magnum, maybe the Caliber and Nitro, for sure the Ram and the Viper and make the Durango and Dakota appealing again.

I seem to remember these cars selling somewhat decently. If Chrysler could update their lineup to be more attractive, they could easily save themselves like GM has done and Ford is thinking about. Easier said than done though.
 
The only thing on the face of the planet that would make the Durango or Dakota any good is the engine from the Viper.
 
The only thing on the face of the planet that would make the Durango or Dakota any good is the engine from the Viper.

I quite liked the older ones. But that was before I was very aware with what was going on in the market. If they used to be decent, who says they can't be again?
 
They could "fix" the Durango by making it seem like a separate entity by comparison to the Ram, furthermore, actually pushing the fact that its a pretty good truck for those who actually need to use one... As I recall, the Durango is more capable than the Colorado/Canyon, not to mention the Tundra and Frontier.

...Only way they could get me in would be a lowered one with 20" wheels, the 5.7L HEMI, and a six-speed manual...
 
-> It has been confirmed, Chrysler LLC is getting rid of the stupid Pacifica, the aging PT Cruiser, and the marvelous Magnum:

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Detroit News
Chrysler to dump three slow-sellers
Pacifica, PT Cruiser, Magnum expected to get axed as automaker realigns product lineup.
Bill Vlasic / The Detroit News

The board of Chrysler LLC is expected to decide today to kill at least three slow-selling models as part of a sweeping strategic realignment of the newly private automaker.

People close to Chrysler said the board, in its initial meeting under new Chairman and CEO Bob Nardelli, likely will approve plans to discontinue the Chrysler Pacifica crossover, the Dodge Magnum wagon and the PT Cruiser hatchback.

Scaling back products is expected to be the first of several major initiatives at Chrysler as it takes shape under the ownership of private-equity giant Cerberus Capital Management LP.

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A Chrysler spokesman declined Monday to confirm the board meeting or its agenda.

But people familiar with the situation said that after three months on the job, Nardelli is ready to put his stamp on Chrysler to make it leaner, quicker and more disciplined.

Nardelli said Monday that Chrysler is now "laser-focused" and committed to making decisions "with a bias toward speed."

"It's either a yes or a no, but not a slow maybe," he said during a question-and-answer session at the American Magazine Conference in Boca Raton, Fla.

Since Cerberus bought Chrysler in August, Nardelli and his top executives have been poring over the product portfolio with an eye toward cutting underperforming or overlapping models.

That effort has accelerated since Chrysler hired veteran Toyota Motor Corp. executive James Press last month as its vice chairman and chief product strategist.

The first models to feel the ax will be the Pacifica, Magnum and PT Cruiser, according to people familiar with the situation.

Sales of all three vehicles have tumbled sharply this year. While Chrysler's overall U.S. sales were down 3 percent through September, Pacifica sales have fallen by 30 percent, Magnum by 32 percent, and the PT Cruiser by 27 percent.
Jeep Commander sales fall

The company also may cut its Jeep Commander full-size SUV. Its sales are down 23 percent this year.

Chrysler spokesman Mike Aberlich declined to comment on any plans by the board to slash products. Industry observers, however, were not surprised to learn that Nardelli is eager to downsize Chrysler's lineup.

"This is a company that obviously needs strong medicine," said Joseph Phillippi of AutoTrends Consulting Inc. in New Jersey. "But the bigger question is, what do you do long-term to fix the portfolio?"

The review of the product plan has been extensive, including critical discussions of the future of the Dodge Dakota compact pickup and the midsize Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Avenger cars.

Nardelli said the company needs to take a dispassionate look at its products with a view to ensuring that they appeal to consumers.

"I'm not a designer, but I'm a consumer," he said. "Rather than deny some of the (negative) reports that are out there you kind of embrace them and say, what do we want to do to take our vehicle from where it is to where consumers want it to be?"
Nardelli pushes change

Nardelli, a longtime General Electric executive and former CEO of Home Depot, is moving to change the culture inside Chrysler at the same time he refocuses the lineup in its showrooms.

One person close to the carmaker said Nardelli is pushing for leaner staffs and faster decisions. Chrysler is in the process of cutting more than 450 white-collar jobs and another 1,000 contract jobs.

Moreover, Nardelli is stressing global growth rather than holding market share in the United States.

On Monday, Chrysler hired L. John Cataldo, a former General Electric executive, to serve in the newly created job of vice president of business development and mergers and acquisitions.

Cataldo will be in charge of "all major business development activities globally, including alliances, partnerships, joint ventures and key multiregion, product-related programs," Chrysler said.

Industry experts see Chrysler as a major player in the international arena by seeking low-cost suppliers and manufacturing partners primarily in Asia.

"Ultimately, Chrysler may be looking to partner up with a foreign automaker to compete with real global players like General Motors and Toyota," said David Cole of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor.

At the forefront of Chrysler's new direction is Nardelli, whose aggressive leadership style won admirers and detractors alike at General Electric and Home Depot.

People close to the company said Nardelli played a large role in negotiating Chrysler's new four-year agreement with the United Auto Workers. On Monday, he called the contract a "major step forward" in reducing Chrysler's labor-cost gap with Asian rivals.
'Focus on cash'

He has also reached out to mend fences with Chrysler dealers who bore the brunt of overproduction problems last year. "The first thing we had to do is re-establish a partnership rather than an adversarial relationship," he said.

In his appearance Monday, Nardelli reiterated Chrysler's "focus on cash" and said the company is moving to sell off $1 billion in unneeded real estate and facilities. Some of the assets include a vehicle test center in Sterling Heights and a full-size van plant in Windsor.

While Cerberus founder Stephen Feinberg was the architect of the acquisition of Chrysler from Daimler AG, Nardelli said his team in Auburn Hills is firmly in charge of the automaker's operations. "The private-equity guys have entrusted us and delegated to us the day to day operations," he said Monday.

This week, Nardelli is scheduled to make his first visit to Washington, D.C., as Chrysler CEO to discuss fuel economy standards with lawmakers.

^ Looks like there will be no G8 GT Sportwagon vs. Magnum RT mash-up after all. :indiff:

~> America really hates wagons. :grumpy:
 
It's their fault for following GM... Even Ford wasn't as stupid.

I'd love to hear how exactly they've "followed" GM which has put them in this position. Last I checked, the idiots in Deutschland didn't know how to operate a car company, and after getting sick of footing the bill, sold the car company off. Poor management on Chrysler's behalf, more specifically building too many vehicles that people DON'T want and WON'T buy was their problem. This is why you can get a 2007 Chrysler Town and Country for $15K off the dealer lots around here...

We could dig deeper too; Depending on Hyundai and Mitsubishi to develop engines and chassis probably wasn't a good idea... Sharing as much as they do with Mitsubishi seems silly after the "break-up."

At the very least, GM had the foresight to invest in their foreign market vehicles, and furthermore, actually is getting around to selling the good vehicles here. God forbid basic economics dictate the choices a business makes... Furthermore, last I checked, GM was still out-building Chrysler quite handily in terms of reliability, quality, and overall customer satisfaction...

So, where exactly did Chrysler follow GM again? Really, Ford didn't do any better. Mullally keeps making promises he can't keep...

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I know the GM guys are pissed about the Magnum getting cut as many of us really liked it. Without it being there it does leave the door pretty much wide-open for the Commodore Sportwagon (ie the "G8X"), as the Taurus X really isn't too much of a competitor anyway.

As for the other two? Well, its about time. While they're at it they still need to get rid of the Commander and Compass, fix the Sebring, re-launch the PT Crusier on an updated chassis (preferably with a new name), scratch off the Aspen while they're at it... Quite frankly, there is a lot to be done.

The easiest suggestion?

Listen to the customers, see what they want, and deliver. Its worked out pretty good for GM and Ford over the past few years...
 
I know the GM guys are pissed about the Magnum getting cut as many of us really liked it. Without it being there it does leave the door pretty much wide-open for the Commodore Sportwagon (ie the "G8X"), as the Taurus X really isn't too much of a competitor anyway.

Agreed 100%:(

The bright side, of course, is that the G8X will have a quite open market.

As for the other two? Well, its about time. While they're at it they still need to get rid of the Commander and Compass, fix the Sebring, re-launch the PT Crusier on an updated chassis (preferably with a new name), scratch off the Aspen while they're at it... Quite frankly, there is a lot to be done.

The easiest suggestion?

Listen to the customers, see what they want, and deliver. Its worked out pretty good for GM and Ford over the past few years...

Somehow, I don't think I see this as a very good solution now. Chrysler doesn't really have the means to go about developing a whole new line of cars that would make the customers happy. I don't really know what Chrysler's problems are, but I would say that they need to cut whatever is losing money, then start rebuilding by making one or two really good models which might create an income base to update and design more great things.

But then again, I'm not much of an economist.
 
-> I really don't see the point besides lackluster sales on why they're dropping the Magnum. If the 'G8X' arrives, there won't be any competition to keep it going and its going to end up like the Magnum. :indiff:

-> I'd rather see the Compass, PTC, Pasifica, and Aspen drop than the Magnum. The Magnum really sets the standard of full-size, high-performance American wagon. And now Chrysler is going to screw everything up. Its ok, the only two Chrysler LLC products I'll get now are the 5-door Wrangler and the Sprinter (so much for the Challenger and the Magnum). =Sigh= :indiff:
 
Exactly. I could see the Mag appealing a bit more if it were a 300. You could replace the Pacifica with it.

The DUB set would latch on and not let go. Besides, the Original Magnum was a failure...not exactly a well-remembered name.
 

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