Civic Type R- Review

[rollazn]

Its a huge video. Its a 5th gear video they review the CTR. check it out.

http://www.roughriderz.com/og350/5th%20Gear%20-%20Civic%20TypeR.wmv

 

[rollazn]

I just watched it. It is a 20 min video about the incredible Honda Civic Type R. They compare it to the Clio 172 and the Toyota Corolla T. They test it out on the street and track. Civic Type R win undoubtly.

The Honda Civic Type R faces the Honda S2000 on a curcuit, to my surprise the CTR wins. I say its the driver. They arent professionals.

Later the girl from top gear testes it out on the track. Had alot of good comments from her. From what i saw she was a way better driver than the other guys.

 

[toyomatt84]

Just watched it as well. I need to go get me one of those. Civic type-r hatch is a fast little machine.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by toyomatt84
Just watched it as well. I need to go get me one of those. Civic type-r hatch is a fast little machine.

Couldnt agree more. I rather have an Integra Type R tho. Its faster than a Civic Type R both 1/4 and circuit wise. Both DC2 and DC5 Integras are faster than the Civic Type R.

 

[toyomatt84]

Originally posted by rollazn
Couldnt agree more. I rather have an Integra Type R tho. Its faster than a Civic Type R both 1/4 and circuit wise. Both DC2 and DC5 Integras are faster than the Civic Type R.

We could be the resident New Type-R people. J/K I think there is already a bunch of people who have those vehicles here at GTP. I would still take that Civic Type R, because I love Hatch's.

 

[Race Idiot]

Originally posted by rollazn
I just watched it. It is a 20 min video about the incredible Honda Civic Type R. They compare it to the Clio 172 and the Toyota Corolla T. They test it out on the street and track. Civic Type R win undoubtly.

The Honda Civic Type R faces the Honda S2000 on a curcuit, to my surprise the CTR wins. I say its the driver. They arent professionals.

Seen that before.

Beh, topgear tested the Civic R, Focus RS and the old crappy lookin WRX. The Focus owned all and it was the same driver.

Those new Civic Type R's are common as muck over here. But they are quite cheap for the spec you get.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Race Idiot
Seen that before.

Beh, topgear tested the Civic R, Focus RS and the old crappy lookin WRX. The Focus owned all and it was the same driver.

Those new Civic Type R's are common as muck over here. But they are quite cheap for the spec you get.

Well, yeah its common over there, but in the USA there is no such thing as Civic Type R's. There are Civic Si which is 160hp but its no type R We have heard rumors of new Type R's coming to the USA. Including Acura RSX Type R and Honda Civic Type R. Both rumors that was suppose to come true in the summer of 2004. Lets just wait and see.

 

[Race Idiot]

Originally posted by rollazn
Well, yeah its common over there, but in the USA there is no such thing as Civic Type R's. There are Civic Si which is 160hp but its no type R We have heard rumors of new Type R's coming to the USA. Including Acura RSX Type R and Honda Civic Type R. Both rumors that was suppose to come true in the summer of 2004. Lets just wait and see.

I think the main reason they are so common here is because they are built over here. Same with some of the other Type R models (not the Tegra).

Just be happy, Honda haven't given us the new Integra (RSX) this time around. I mean at least you guys get the RSX.

 

[19xx]

Originally posted by rollazn
Well, yeah its common over there, but in the USA there is no such thing as Civic Type R's. There are Civic Si which is 160hp but its no type R We have heard rumors of new Type R's coming to the USA. Including Acura RSX Type R and Honda Civic Type R. Both rumors that was suppose to come true in the summer of 2004. Lets just wait and see.

With "GREAT" news such as this, wouldn't you think Honda will make an offical announcement by now? Honda already has a successful business in the US market, however this is because the majority of the buyers are for economic reasons. Things can go more complex than you think, such as:

1) Risk of lawsuits from street racing with CTRs and ITRs
2) How to appraise costs with RSX-S and Civic SI, their next to best models
3) Don't forget insurance! You own a car that demographically will be more likely to crash, you pay insurance. And when you do crash, you can pay up to about 300% more

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by 19xx
With "GREAT" news such as this, wouldn't you think Honda will make an offical announcement by now? Honda already has a successful business in the US market, however this is because the majority of the buyers are for economic reasons. Things can go more complex than you think, such as:

1) Risk of lawsuits from street racing with CTRs and ITRs
2) How to appraise costs with RSX-S and Civic SI, their next to best models
3) Don't forget insurance! You own a car that demographically will be more likely to crash, you pay insurance. And when you do crash, you can pay up to about 300% more

Just like i said... its a "rumor" that i found on www.vtec.net I dont know if it is going to come true, just like most rumors its false. You never know though, lets just wait and see if Honda will make an offical announcement.

 

[lil_antonv]

hi i am planning to buy a honda civic year model 92-96 or something i need some help which do you guys recommend i get a vti civic or a si and could you tell me the power of them like horsepower and kilowatts and which is more recommended then later on what can i purchase to give it somepower without puttin in a turbo and spending too much money i was planning to find a spoon engine but cant find one and too rare and expensive what do you think of an honda integra type r engine i am also going to put a air filter extractors and high performance exhaust if i leave the engine like the vtec one it came with what else can i put in it to add more power please reply or email me with information my email is lil_antonv@hotmail.com

 

[ShobThaBob]

Originally posted by lil_antonv
hi i am planning to buy a honda civic year model 92-96 or something i need some help which do you guys recommend i get a vti civic or a si and could you tell me the power of them like horsepower and kilowatts and which is more recommended then later on what can i purchase to give it somepower without puttin in a turbo and spending too much money i was planning to find a spoon engine but cant find one and too rare and expensive what do you think of an honda integra type r engine i am also going to put a air filter extractors and high performance exhaust if i leave the engine like the vtec one it came with what else can i put in it to add more power please reply or email me with information my email is lil_antonv@hotmail.com

Holy crap. I wouldn't trust anyone behind the wheel of a car that doesn't have any clue how to use punctuation in a sentence...much less a paragraph/sentence. So...try to work on that before you post again. Thanks!

And as far as I know, there is no Si civic on/before 1996.

 

[RoxxorJoorSoxxo]

1) Risk of lawsuits from street racing with CTRs and ITRs
2) How to appraise costs with RSX-S and Civic SI, their next to best models

1) ITR's already roam the streets of the US
2) They would simply sell them as RSX-R
and Civic Type R, being more expensive than the Type S and Si.


Although I agree that we will probably never see them.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by 19xx
1) Risk of lawsuits from street racing with CTRs and ITRs

Hey, Um... Risk of lawsuit from street racing in CTR and ITR. I know alot of street racers use modified Civics and Integras, but there are other cars that people use to street race too. Such as Mustangs, Accords, Preludes, Maxima, Camaros, etc.... I dont get your statement about risk of lawsuit from street racing in CTR and ITR other than that i 100% agree with you. Why would Honda get a lawsuit from someone else street racing? Even if they dont bring the CTR and ITR over, if they would get a lawsuit for people street racing wouldnt they still get a lawsuit for people racing in civics?

 

[Hero1]

yes they are both Awesome, but the new NSX type R own them all, I can't belive just how fast that car is, there is really only a few cars in the world faster than that. The NSX type R is officially my favorite car ever. now if only some people weren't idiots calling a NSX type R a ricer and thinking it can't kill a Ferrari 360 or the Lambo Murcielago on a track... the world would be a much better place

Originally posted by rollazn
Couldnt agree more. I rather have an Integra Type R tho. Its faster than a Civic Type R both 1/4 and circuit wise. Both DC2 and DC5 Integras are faster than the Civic Type R.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Hero1
yes they are both Awesome, but the new NSX type R own them all, I can't belive just how fast that car is, there is really only a few cars in the world faster than that. The NSX type R is officially my favorite car ever. now if only some people weren't idiots calling a NSX type R a ricer and thinking it can't kill a Ferrari 360 or the Lambo Murcielago on a track... the world would be a much better place

The 360 is a fast car no doubt, but the NSX-R did beat the Ferrari on NURBURING track with an amazing 7:56 The Porsche GT3 and 2004 Corvette Z06 ran a 7:56 also. Its amazing how fast the NSX-R is. Its 2800LB and very quick. MR great handling. Its a stripped NSX. Its a pure RACE CAR. Just like any other car there are always something faster. Lambo Murcelego was faster on the Nurburing circuit, i think. On a track with small and tight turns the NSX-R will beat the Lambo. It depends on the track really. NSX-R runs 12.8 easily, with a 290hp engine, there is just so much a 290hp engine can do. With great aerodynamic and gear ratios it has a great top speed.

There are alot of cars faster in the world. TONS. Mclearn F1's, F40, F50, Enzo, TVR 6, Super 7, Zonda, ETC.... There are tons of car that could whoop the NSX-R. The NSX-R is in my top 5, but even i got to admit that its not the fastest car in the world. With 290hp 2800lbs there is only so much it can do. Its not undefeatable. Great car but there are alot of cars that would kill it.

 

[Hero1]

yeah but look at the horsepower differences in these cars compared to the NSX. and the NSX R is based on a 12 year old design. and by the way TVR 6 will not beat the NSX R, I'm sure the F50 will kill it, but I don't think the F40 can.

Originally posted by rollazn
The 360 is a fast car no doubt, but the NSX-R did beat the Ferrari on NURBURING track with an amazing 7:56 The Porsche GT3 and 2004 Corvette Z06 ran a 7:56 also. Its amazing how fast the NSX-R is. Its 2800LB and very quick. MR great handling. Its a stripped NSX. Its a pure RACE CAR. Just like any other car there are always something faster. Lambo Murcelego was faster on the Nurburing circuit, i think. On a track with small and tight turns the NSX-R will beat the Lambo. It depends on the track really. NSX-R runs 12.8 easily, with a 290hp engine, there is just so much a 290hp engine can do. With great aerodynamic and gear ratios it has a great top speed.

There are alot of cars faster in the world. TONS. Mclearn F1's, F40, F50, Enzo, TVR 6, Super 7, Zonda, ETC.... There are tons of car that could whoop the NSX-R. The NSX-R is in my top 5, but even i got to admit that its not the fastest car in the world. With 290hp 2800lbs there is only so much it can do. Its not undefeatable. Great car but there are alot of cars that would kill it.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Hero1
yeah but look at the horsepower differences in these cars compared to the NSX. and the NSX R is based on a 12 year old design. and by the way TVR 6 will not beat the NSX R, I'm sure the F50 will kill it, but I don't think the F40 can.

Im sure it will. I know what a NSX-R is capable of. There is no way it can handle either F40 or TVR 6. On drag or circuit either way both are too fast. There is a Power difference but there is also a weight difference. The Honda NSX-R is a stripped car. No AC. Its 2800lbs. The S Zero weights around 3000lbs.

 

[Hero1]

yeah but the next NSX type R will kill them. isn't the 280 hp limit in Japan been thrown out?

Originally posted by rollazn
Im sure it will. I know what a NSX-R is capable of. There is no way it can handle either F40 or TVR 6. On drag or circuit either way both are too fast. There is a Power difference but there is also a weight difference. The Honda NSX-R is a stripped car. No AC. Its 2800lbs. The S Zero weights around 3000lbs.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Hero1
yeah but the next NSX type R will kill them. isn't the 280 hp limit in Japan been thrown out?

No NSX-R will not kill them... anyways yeah the 280hp agreement between the manufactor is now gone. That is why we will be seeing more power from the japanese supercars. The GT-R will have around 400-480hp, at least rumor around there. The said to be new NSX the HSC has more than 300hp so yeah.

Hero, dont be so iggnorant. The NSX-R even though really fast will not beat a F40 or TVR 6. ITs a great car, and can really fly but its no where to compete with the F40. Give me the keys to TVR and F40 or the NSX-R and ill choose the NSX-R. Its in my top three favorite car, but even i wont be biase and say its faster than the TVR or F40. Great car but not undeafeatable. The GT2 will simply roast it. It ran the same time around the famous Nurburngring circuit as the Porsche 911 GT3. Quite an impressive title if you ask me. Even the 2004 Corvette Z06 with alot of power still could not beat the NSX-R, it simply ran the same 7;56. Thats fast! All three car ran 7;56, the GT2 ran a 7;49 very fast car.

 

[Hero1]

wait I'm not being ignorant, I thought you were a JDM car fan too. first of all, I did not say it is the fastest car in the world. what I meant is that it is the fastest car in the world with that kind of horsepower. you said you wanted an integra Type R instead of civic type R, I said I rather have an NSX type R and it'll own them both. you seem to misunderstood that as I am saying it would own any car in the world. that's not what I meant, but I did mean that there are very few cars in the world that can beat it in on a race track. Don't you think it's amazing how fast the car is with only 280 ps? the NSX is not geared towards the same audiences as other supercars are. the NSX is not so rare that only the ones reserved will be sold like the ones you mentioned. the NSX will actually be in showrooms. also it is the only exotic that I know that is so cheap. those muscle car meatheads that look at the horsepower to cash ratios are idiots. they should look at performance and quality to cash ratio. and keep it in mind, the HSC is not the next NSX type-R, it is close to the next NSX, and I'm sure when it turns to type R it'll be even faster. please don't look at the horsepower numbers too much. after all, it's Honda horsepower we are talking about. not the 500 hp muscle cars that get 100 hp to the rear wheels to the ground kind of power. trust me the next NSX type R will be the most high tech and fastest car in the world for its horsepower range and will compete with much higher powered cras. but of course, there is a new batch of super cars that are just crazy fast, including my favortie, the Porsche GT, the insanely fast Enzo, the FordGT. Koenisegg, Zonda. But the NEXT NSX type R will be competing with them in Best motoring and costing much less and killing less trees.

Originally posted by rollazn
No NSX-R will not kill them... anyways yeah the 280hp agreement between the manufactor is now gone. That is why we will be seeing more power from the japanese supercars. The GT-R will have around 400-480hp, at least rumor around there. The said to be new NSX the HSC has more than 300hp so yeah.

Hero, dont be so iggnorant. The NSX-R even though really fast will not beat a F40 or TVR 6. ITs a great car, and can really fly but its no where to compete with the F40. Give me the keys to TVR and F40 or the NSX-R and ill choose the NSX-R. Its in my top three favorite car, but even i wont be biase and say its faster than the TVR or F40. Great car but not undeafeatable. The GT2 will simply roast it. It ran the same time around the famous Nurburngring circuit as the Porsche 911 GT3. Quite an impressive title if you ask me. Even the 2004 Corvette Z06 with alot of power still could not beat the NSX-R, it simply ran the same 7;56. Thats fast! All three car ran 7;56, the GT2 ran a 7;49 very fast car.

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Hero1
wait I'm not being ignorant, I thought you were a JDM car fan too. first of all, I did not say it is the fastest car in the world. what I meant is that it is the fastest car in the world with that kind of horsepower. you said you wanted an integra Type R instead of civic type R, I said I rather have an NSX type R and it'll own them both. you seem to misunderstood that as I am saying it would own any car in the world. that's not what I meant, but I did mean that there are very few cars in the world that can beat it in on a race track. Don't you think it's amazing how fast the car is with only 280 ps? the NSX is not geared towards the same audiences as other supercars are. the NSX is not so rare that only the ones reserved will be sold like the ones you mentioned. the NSX will actually be in showrooms. also it is the only exotic that I know that is so cheap. those muscle car meatheads that look at the horsepower to cash ratios are idiots. they should look at performance and quality to cash ratio. and keep it in mind, the HSC is not the next NSX type-R, it is close to the next NSX, and I'm sure when it turns to type R it'll be even faster. please don't look at the horsepower numbers too much. after all, it's Honda horsepower we are talking about. not the 500 hp muscle cars that get 100 hp to the rear wheels to the ground kind of power. trust me the next NSX type R will be the most high tech and fastest car in the world for its horsepower range and will compete with much higher powered cras. but of course, there is a new batch of super cars that are just crazy fast, including my favortie, the Porsche GT, the insanely fast Enzo, the FordGT. Koenisegg, Zonda. But the NEXT NSX type R will be competing with them in Best motoring and costing much less and killing less trees.

First off, i am a JDM car fan, that is why my top 5 favorite cars are japanese... go figure. NSX-R is a fast car, and you are right with 280ps it will beat alot of cars in the higher power range. Just like the Z06 around 405hp and the GT3 with also alot of power. The NSX-R matches it with its lightweight and Midengine advantage. NSX-R is alot faster than the Type S Zero. You want to know why.... no engine modification beside a few tweaks but its stripped, meaning its way lighter around 200lbs stripped. Just like the NSX-R the GT-R also can run with cars with way more power. The NSX-R is basicly a race car.

The HSC is Honda Sport Coupe and it is the replacement for the NSX as far as Vtec.net is concern. I dont mean they will replace hte NSX with the name HSC i mean the concept of the HSC will most likely be what the new NSX will look like. There is no real spec for the new NSX so, we wont know unless honda make an offical statement.

 

[Hero1]

I know but the HSC is not what the next TYPE R , it's supposed to be close to the next NSX, not NSX TYPE R

Originally posted by rollazn
First off, i am a JDM car fan, that is why my top 5 favorite cars are japanese... go figure. NSX-R is a fast car, and you are right with 280ps it will beat alot of cars in the higher power range. Just like the Z06 around 405hp and the GT3 with also alot of power. The NSX-R matches it with its lightweight and Midengine advantage. NSX-R is alot faster than the Type S Zero. You want to know why.... no engine modification beside a few tweaks but its stripped, meaning its way lighter around 200lbs stripped. Just like the NSX-R the GT-R also can run with cars with way more power. The NSX-R is basicly a race car.

The HSC is Honda Sport Coupe and it is the replacement for the NSX as far as Vtec.net is concern. I dont mean they will replace hte NSX with the name HSC i mean the concept of the HSC will most likely be what the new NSX will look like. There is no real spec for the new NSX so, we wont know unless honda make an offical statement.

 

[Hero1]

Originally posted by Hero1
I know but the HSC "Honda Sport Concept" is not the next TYPE R , it's supposed to be close to the next NSX, not NSX TYPE R

 

[rollazn]

Originally posted by Hero1
I know but the HSC is not what the next TYPE R , it's supposed to be close to the next NSX, not NSX TYPE R

First off, the NSX type S Zero and the NSX Type R is almost exactly the same, beside some exterior work it look the same. Its like another "model" of the NSX. There is the BASE NSX, the NSX Type S, NSX Type S Zero, and the NSX-R. There are only two Type R's of the NSX one of them is back in the 1992 or 1993 i think and the new one which is hte 2002 model. Between 1993-2002 there was no NSX Type R's.

They brought the NSX-R back in the year 2002, it was made exactly to be a track performer. Its basicly a stirpped Type S Zero. No A/C and power windows and lock etc... they removed it to lighten the NSX. The only reason the NSX-R is faster than the NSX-S Zero is because it IS STRIPPED!! Meaning it is lighten to be an all track car. The power is exactly the same that is why both run 12.8s in the 1/4. The HSC will be the base NSX. They probably will have different models like Type S, Type S Zero, and Type R.

 

[Hero1]

the new type R kills the type S Zero. yeah they are almost the same except one is stripped. it's like saying an Evolution and Evolution RS is the same or a GT-R and GT-R VspecII is the same.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-37059.html

didn't you say the Speed 6 will kill the NSX type-R? trust me, the NSX type-R is fast. and it does it by high technology and smart weight saving, the engine components are replaced with lighter and stronger alloys like the ones in F-1 and the chassis which was already very light was renforced and lighten. the wheels are also lighter alloys. it saved over 340 lbs over the normal NSX. it's not just stripping a car like the Evo RS.

Originally posted by rollazn
First off, the NSX type S Zero and the NSX Type R is almost exactly the same, beside some exterior work it look the same. Its like another "model" of the NSX. There is the BASE NSX, the NSX Type S, NSX Type S Zero, and the NSX-R. There are only two Type R's of the NSX one of them is back in the 1992 or 1993 i think and the new one which is hte 2002 model. Between 1993-2002 there was no NSX Type R's.

They brought the NSX-R back in the year 2002, it was made exactly to be a track performer. Its basicly a stirpped Type S Zero. No A/C and power windows and lock etc... they removed it to lighten the NSX. The only reason the NSX-R is faster than the NSX-S Zero is because it IS STRIPPED!! Meaning it is lighten to be an all track car. The power is exactly the same that is why both run 12.8s in the 1/4. The HSC will be the base NSX. They probably will have different models like Type S, Type S Zero, and Type R.

 

[rollazn]

thats about it, they replace it with lighter parts just like you say. I know the NSX-R and NSX Type S Zero runs around hte same on the 1/4 and NSX--R will kill the Type S Zero beccause it is stripped. JUST LIKE I SAID NSX_R IS JUST A STRIPPED VERISON OF THE NSX TYPE S ZERO. Even tho the parts are replace with lighter materials thats what they do to lighten the NSX, making it around 2800 which is 200lbs less than the Type S. The Suspention is tuned also its more of a racing car now .


Oh yeah that race was on tsucbua right, thats a small track tight track so the NSX-R would most likely win but take them to the nurburinring and it will be a better contest the NSX-R still will win most likely. And also the car wasnt a Tuscan S. The one i was talking about is with over 400hp. The one in the video is an Tuscan.

Tuscan

Specification
Engine: 6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3605 cc

Max Power:
350 bhp @ 7200 rpm

Max torque:
290 ft.lbs @ 5500 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
4.2 secs

0 to 100 mph:
9.6 secs

Maximum:
180 mph

Tuscan S.

Specification
Engine:
6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3996 cc

Max Power:
400 bhp @ 7000 rpm

Max torque:
310 ft.lbs @ 5250 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
3.6 secs

0 to 100 mph:
8.0 secs

Maximum:
165 mph


Thats the difference.

 

[BMW POWER]

Originally posted by rollazn
Maximum:
165 mph

i ownded a TVR Tuscan S before the Cerbera, it tops out at 195+mph

 

[Hero1]

the car in the video has 420 ps, watch it again! even if it's a small track it was absolutely killed! it was a tuscan speed 6! and type-R cost much less. what the hell are we arguing about? you really don't think the NSX type-R is fast? I just don't understand why you keep arguing, and lighter weight means better performance and handling.

Originally posted by rollazn
thats about it, they replace it with lighter parts just like you say. I know the NSX-R and NSX Type S Zero runs around hte same on the 1/4 and NSX--R will kill the Type S Zero beccause it is stripped. JUST LIKE I SAID NSX_R IS JUST A STRIPPED VERISON OF THE NSX TYPE S ZERO. Even tho the parts are replace with lighter materials thats what they do to lighten the NSX, making it around 2800 which is 200lbs less than the Type S. The Suspention is tuned also its more of a racing car now .


Oh yeah that race was on tsucbua right, thats a small track tight track so the NSX-R would most likely win but take them to the nurburinring and it will be a better contest the NSX-R still will win most likely. And also the car wasnt a Tuscan S. The one i was talking about is with over 400hp. The one in the video is an Tuscan.

Tuscan

Specification
Engine: 6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3605 cc

Max Power:
350 bhp @ 7200 rpm

Max torque:
290 ft.lbs @ 5500 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
4.2 secs

0 to 100 mph:
9.6 secs

Maximum:
180 mph

Tuscan S.

Specification
Engine:
6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3996 cc

Max Power:
400 bhp @ 7000 rpm

Max torque:
310 ft.lbs @ 5250 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
3.6 secs

0 to 100 mph:
8.0 secs

Maximum:
165 mph


Thats the difference.

 

[BMW POWER]

no, the 420ps model was the Cerbera the 350ps one was the Speed 6