Component Cables for GT4

[BlackZ28]

I use crap generic component cables and they look gorgeous on my 55" Mitsubushi HDTV

 

[nicefrog]

I use S-Video but it's still 100 times clearer than AV, the difference in the Speed and Tacho needles and dials are worth its weight in gold

 

[Buck-O]

quick question!
I've a standard PS2 cable (yellow, white & red) leading out to a receiver with dolby pro-logic II capable (also with another optical cable to receiver). From there the image goes from another output with a S-cable to my 32" wide TV, while the sound is handled by the receiver.

Question is does this connection alter the clarity 4 the game or should I just purchase another cables that lead from PS2 to TV alone on a s-Video / Componet cable? will there be significantly improvement with such connection? I tried the 1080i option but the games just revert back to default setting after that. Pls Help!...

First, tell us what brand and model of TV you have, this solves TONS of prablems when it comes to trying tohelp you out.

Your best bet would be to buy a set of component cables (provided your TV supports it), and run them to your TV, then you can run in 1080i mode (again, provided your TV supports it). Then, get an optical cable, and run that to your reciever (im assuming that since it supports DPL-II it should support DD5.1 via toslink). That way you dont have to run audio extensions to your reciever, from your TV's location becuase the wire outs on the component cables are only about 6 inches long.

 

[Buck-O]

By the way, it should be cleared up.


Composite < S-Video < RGB (SOG) < Compnent < RGB(HVS)

 

[the Interceptor]

Where's the difference between RGB (SOG) and RGB (HVS)?

 

[Messiah]

Picture quality is better using RGB than S-video. That's theory, and that's what I have seen in every TV I have tried. Something may be wrong with your TV set, or you just plugged your RGB SCART cable in a RGB-non-capable scart plug (the usual thing is only one of your TV scarts can manage RGB, in SONY models with 2 scarts, it's only ->[]1 the one that works. But you'll still get composite video if you attach to ->[]2, maybe you had it there and didn't notice)

S-Video uses RGB.

I tried my old SCART in the RGB enabled socket on my TV as I thought that was what was giving me the problem - but no. You're right what you say about using AV1 on the TV, as usually it's the only one to be RGB enabled, but more and more TV's are now getting at least 2.

The best SCART sockets you can buy for Home Cinema purposes have NO audio capabilities at all - because the wires that carry the sound interfere with those carrying the picture - this is OK for Home Cinema use as most people use a Dolby Digital Amplifier which makes use of an optical cable, so sound from the TV isn't needed.

I've currently got Sat into AV1 (RGB), DVD into AV2, XBox into AV3 & PS2 into AV4 (RGB S-Video)

I'd recommend the following as the best way to connect your PS2 to a TV

1. Component
2. S-Video (Although I can't tell the difference from Component)
3. RGB SCART.
4. Standard PS2 AV Connections
5. Standard PS2 SCART Connections.

No's 4 & 5 are what you normally get in the PS2 box. I'd recommend buying the best you can afford - there's no point in spending a lot of money on expensive equipment and then connecting it with cheap rubbish. Remember - A chain is only as good as it's weakest link.

One more thing, if you decide that SCART is best for you, make sure you get one that is RGB enabled because not all of them are. Also, if can have a look at the end of the socket itself, you should see 21 pins in it (The standard one doesn't). Another thing to look out for is to see if the cable is quite fat and chunky - this indicates that the wires inside are shielded from each other.

Hope all this helps.

 

[SucaScr]

Thanks for the information...

i´m wondering where to buy those components cables here ir argentina...

how much does it cost in our country??

 

[Buck-O]

Where's the difference between RGB (SOG) and RGB (HVS)?

3 Wire RGB = Sync On Green
5 Wire RGB = Horizontal & Verticle Sync in a white and black wire.


RGB(SOG) causes dot crawl and jitter problems on some TV's, and the PS2 doesnt like it much.

Plus RGB can be degraded more by outside EMF, as each color channel is carying its own luminance data, as well as scan data.

Component has VIdeo, Chrominance, and Luminance on seperate wires.

S-Video has a seperate video, with Chrominance and Luminance sharing the same feed.

Composite is ofcourse a composite of all three, all fighting for wire time, which casues dull color, dot drawl, jitter, and generally looks like ass.

 

[Messiah]

Plus RGB can be degraded more by outside EMF, as each color channel is carying its own luminance data, as well as scan data.

Knew there was something I forgot - The longer the SCART lead, the more the picture will degrade so try to keep as short a cable as you need.

What connections do you use Buck-O?

 

[Buck-O]

S-Video uses RGB.

*snip*

Another thing to look out for is to see if the cable is quite fat and chunky - this indicates that the wires inside are shielded from each other.

Hope all this helps.

1: S-Video DOES NOT use RGB. It uses a video signal on one carrier, and Chrominance and Luminance share the other.


2: Fat and Chunky cables does NOT mean extra sheilding, it means extra insulation. And extra insulation doesnt mean squat. Most monster cables are basic grade bulk wire with thick insulation...rubber coating...gooped on around teh cables to make them look like heavy gauge pieses of kit. WHen in reality its crap.

A properly sheilded cable wont jump in gauge more then .5. So a sheilded 13 guage wire, or Super 13, comes out to a little bit smaller then 12 gauge.

Dont get taken into the marketing scheme of fatter cable = better cable, becuase its not true. Especially when it comes to brands like Monster.

 

[Buck-O]

Knew there was something I forgot - The longer the SCART lead, the more the picture will degrade so try to keep as short a cable as you need.

What connections do you use Buck-O?

Component.


OUt of necesity becuase i run an Component Video/Digital Optical switcher, that also has my DVD player, my Xbox, and GCN attatched to it. And my TV doesnt support RGB.

It all works out nice.

I hardly ever have to touch a remote, i just turn on what i want to play, the switcher auto detects and switches, and i go about my business. No bounding around for the right input. No switching audio settings ont eh reciever. And it sure as hell cuts down on wire tangle.

Best $200 i ever sepnt on my system.

 

[Messiah]

Nice one!

All my SCARTS are switched so it automatically changes channel when I switch something on, except the PS2, but then I sit so close to the TV that I can reach the button anyway!!

 

[Buck-O]

Thanks.


This is the unit im currently useing.

THe Audio Uthority 1154A

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/1154detc.html

Full wideband support for HD signals (thouhg i have my HD box going straight to my TV), and it also does Coaxial to optical digital conversion. WHich is great, becuase my PS2, XBOX, are toslink, and my DVD player is coaxial.

But on my reciever, my toslink is occupied with a direct cable to my transport. Leaving only my coaxial open, so i run a coaxial to my reciever from my switch box.

And becuase the box also does stereo audio switching, i also have my GCN running through it, and to my recievers aux analog inputs.


Its such a versitle little box. I love it.

 

[Messiah]

Looks like a very handy bit of kit.

Still got plenty of free phono sockets on the back of my Amp, although I am getting low optical inputs so I might be looking at buying one of those before long...

 

[Buck-O]

Looks like a very handy bit of kit.

Still got plenty of free phono sockets on the back of my Amp, although I am getting low optical inputs so I might be looking at buying one of those before long...

Instead of going all out for a big component switcher like that one.

Save yourself $60 and get somthing like this instead.

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/1177detc.html

 

[maxi]

I would like to know if a normal LCD tv with composite video in and a maximum resolution of 1280x768 would be able to display GT4 in any higher resolution mode like 480p or 1080i, or it would be at the same resolution as a basic tv?

Thanks

 

[ChristmasGTO]

I think you could do 480p But im not 100% sure, I have an LCD also 19inches, 1080i is most likely A no go, Im waiting on my New VGA Converter to show up, I have a spare VGA monitor Im probably going to use though, I can't wait to get that thing! Just picked up some monster componant cables for my PS2, Have my Componant Cables for my cube on the way also should be here the same day


On a COMPLETELY differant Subject RE4 is amazing, Played it for an entire 16 hours...so addicting!

 

[FRST]

I'd recommend the following as the best way to connect your PS2 to a TV

1. Component
2. S-Video (Although I can't tell the difference from Component)
3. RGB SCART.
4. Standard PS2 AV Connections
5. Standard PS2 SCART Connections.

No's 4 & 5 are what you normally get in the PS2 box. I'd recommend buying the best you can afford - there's no point in spending a lot of money on expensive equipment and then connecting it with cheap rubbish. Remember - A chain is only as good as it's weakest link.

One more thing, if you decide that SCART is best for you, make sure you get one that is RGB enabled because not all of them are. Also, if can have a look at the end of the socket itself, you should see 21 pins in it (The standard one doesn't). Another thing to look out for is to see if the cable is quite fat and chunky - this indicates that the wires inside are shielded from each other.

Hope all this helps.

thanks for the info I'm looking for a LCD tv...

 

[f_klo]

PLease help me people.....im getting so frstrated im about to throw out my component cable i bought today!! I have a SONY tv set "KV-ES34M31" and it has "DVD somponent input" and yes at the back it has the "green,blue,red" holes....so doesnt this mean i can use my component cables and use 480p or 1080i?? but ive tried it and it doesnt work, my tv just goes all wiggly....any solutions people?? would you guys recommend me use S-video instead (becauese i have that input hole as well) or stick with my component cables and be happy with it?? im a noob so please be nice....ive tried searching too

 

[KoukiFC3S]

PLease help me people.....im getting so frstrated im about to throw out my component cable i bought today!! I have a SONY tv set "KV-ES34M31" and it has "DVD somponent input" and yes at the back it has the "green,blue,red" holes....so doesnt this mean i can use my component cables and use 480p or 1080i?? but ive tried it and it doesnt work, my tv just goes all wiggly....any solutions people?? would you guys recommend me use S-video instead (becauese i have that input hole as well) or stick with my component cables and be happy with it?? im a noob so please be nice....ive tried searching too

you have component input but your TV does not support 480p or 1080i.

This means you should just keep the component cables (still a little bit better than s video) and play in regular 480i mode.

 

[j8mie]

Not wishing to change the subject, but I'm running my PS2 through my Pinnacle TV Rave card in my PC. I use DScaler 4.1.11 for viewing the game on screen, and I am using the standard cable into the cards component socket, and I have a CRT 21" monitor.

The picture quality I get is okay, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to improve the quality of the image?

I was thinking of getting a LCD display for my PC sometime soonish. If I did, should I make sure I have any other types of connection on the back, which might give me a better signal than I get through the TV card?

Cheers, Jamie

 

[the Interceptor]

Not wishing to change the subject, but I'm running my PS2 through my Pinnacle TV Rave card in my PC. I use DScaler 4.1.11 for viewing the game on screen, and I am using the standard cable into the cards component socket, and I have a CRT 21" monitor.

The picture quality I get is okay, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to improve the quality of the image?

You mean composite, the PCTV doesn't have a component input. Well, you should get an S-Video cable and use the cards S-Video input. This will give you a sharper and clearer image.

I was thinking of getting a LCD display for my PC sometime soonish. If I did, should I make sure I have any other types of connection on the back, which might give me a better signal than I get through the TV card?

Cheers, Jamie

A component input would be ideal, you could connect the PS2 directly. Otherwise, I'd recommend a DVI input (white plug), cause it gives you a superior quality over the standard D-SUB (blue plug) for your PC image. And if you improve your PC image, your DScaler image will improve as well.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[Barbol]

I have a problem with my TV connected with a RBG cable.

The red is so brilliant that hurt my eyes, and i must adjust the colour down.

This don't happens with AV cable.

Nobody have this problem?

 

[Messiah]

Sounds like a setting on your TV.

Is it a Sony TV? A few sets have a problem with red "bleaching" you can fix it yourself but it takes a few button presses to be able to get to the "secret" service menu.

 

[Barbol]

It's a cheap brand , but it happens in the others TV of my home too, that make me think that can be the RGB cable

 

[sinner]

I have a problem with my TV connected with a RBG cable.

The red is so brilliant that hurt my eyes, and i must adjust the colour down.

This don't happens with AV cable.

Nobody have this problem?

Did you change the output setting in the main meun to component output instead of the normal AV setting? as dumb as it may sound, i made that same dumb mistake... changing the output method cleared it right up...

 

[Killg0re]

I GT3 i used just a normal surround amplifier, nog i moved my gameshack upstrairs. On my PC i have SB Audigy2
with creative5100 (in short: surround system) But now i wanna hook up my PS2 to my PC, to use the GT4 surround.

The only way to have full effort of the surround system is by the TOS link. (optical output). Therefor i need a soundcard
wich will be able to process the AC3 signal though to my SBA2. Cause of my recent SBA2 card, i don't wanna spent alot of money
on a SBextigy2. So other options are "trust digital optical"and terratec fun/PCI

Anyone of u guys got experience with these sound cards?
When i read the manuals they me me think that those cards only support stereo and mono signals on the AC3 signal.....

 

[cobragt]

hi, does html on the back of hdtv's support the ps2???? and also do you need the component cables in order to have 1080i??!?thanxs.

 

[Fatsanatas]

S-VHS has two separate cables for brightness and colour. RGB has three separate cables for red, green and blue. It's comparable with YUV, which uses three cables for brightness and colour difference. You must ensure to have a RGB capable SCART input on your TV and that you have the TV (RGB capable SCART input set to RGB) and the PS2 (output set to RGB in configuration menu) set up proberly to get RGB quality. I can clearly see the difference between S-VHS and RGB on my tv.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

Hey there,

I already posted some questions concerning the quality of my PS2 pictures some weeks ago but I still have some questions left. I'd be glad, if somebody could help finding some answers.

What is in general the best method to get the best picture out of the PS2? Tried a lot so far, but I'm quite unhappy with the results.
I tried the PS2 on my PC monitor (17" CRT, 1024x768x32, tried with Dscaler) and a TV card (Hauppauge Win TV with a very common chip (forgot the name)) .

To me, the result is pretty poor, the picture is not the worst, but it could be a lot sharper. So I thought about either the S-Video cable as recommended in the PS2 manual (SCPH-10060 E) or the Component AV Cable (SCPH-10100 E).

Now, what would be better for the quality of the pictures? A TV with a S-Video input or a component video input (are there any???) or buying the SCPH-10060 E for my PC? I really want to get the best out of my PS2 without spending too much. Planned to buy a new CRT monitor but if I can get the best result with a TV (and some components added), I'll buy that.

I'd be really glad, if somebody could tell me what to do, because there are only some days left before the EU release of GT4 .


So long, and thanks,

Fatsanatas

 

[MuSaSh1]

I have a TV that supports both S Video and Component but not hdtv ready. Now my question is, (I currently have S Video setup) how much better does it look with component??? Give me a % number.