Component to DVI cable?

[Danoff]

I'm thinking it doesn't exist, but just in case I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of a component to DVI converter so that older hardware with only a component out can use a DVI connection.

 

[Event]

edit, nvm. I thought you said VGA to DVI.... my bad.

 

[the Interceptor]

I've never heard of one, but it may well be that some scaler that's normally used to convert signals for a beamer might do the job. That'd be a few hunrded bucks though, so I guess there's no affordable way to convert component to DVI.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[VT]

Aparrantly they do make them. Atleast according to Google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=comp...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

 

[Danoff]

Aparrantly they do make them. Atleast according to Google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=comp...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Not seeing it.

 

[VT]

:shrug:

 

[Danoff]

I see composite to DVI, but component isn't in the list.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I'm thinking it doesn't exist, but just in case I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of a component to DVI converter so that older hardware with only a component out can use a DVI connection.

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dvtohdcoad.html

This adapter will convert component to DVI-I. Most sets have DVI-D, which might not be compatible with DVI-D inputs. I'm not sure, because I have no experience with DVI. DVI-I is both analog and digital content compatible, which is what you need. Remember, component is analog. DVI-D is digital only. There's also a DVI-A which is analog only.

EDIT: Wait, that's DVI to component! Sorry, I misread it. I guess it's hard to go from component to DVI because DVI is digital, most of the time, while component is analog only. Not many people need or want to go from component to DVI, anyway. I suppose a audio receiver, with component video outputs, with DVI output might do it for you.

If not, you can buy a scaler. They take image sources, like composite to whatever, and convert them to either component, DVI or HDMI. They ain't cheap. At least several hundred dollars. Buying a new audio/video receiver sounds like a better idea.

 

[Danoff]

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dvtohdcoad.html

This adapter will convert component to DVI-I. Most sets have DVI-D, which might not be compatible with DVI-D inputs. I'm not sure, because I have no experience with DVI. DVI-I is both analog and digital content compatible, which is what you need. Remember, component is analog. DVI-D is digital only. There's also a DVI-A which is analog only.

EDIT: Wait, that's DVI to component! Sorry, I misread it. I guess it's hard to go from component to DVI because DVI is digital, most of the time, while component is analog only. Not many people need or want to go from component to DVI, anyway. I suppose a audio receiver, with component video outputs, with DVI output might do it for you.

If not, you can buy a scaler. They take image sources, like composite to whatever, and convert them to either component, DVI or HDMI. They ain't cheap. At least several hundred dollars. Buying a new audio/video receiver sounds like a better idea.

Solid,

Do most high def. receivers use line doublers when they're outputting standard defintion signals - so that they always give the TV the same number of lines to draw regardless of the signal. I ask this because my cable company is about to supply me with a receiver for their high def. signal and I'm wondering if it's going to flip back and forth between the number of lines it feeds the TV as I change channels.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Solid,

Do most high def. receivers use line doublers when they're outputting standard defintion signals - so that they always give the TV the same number of lines to draw regardless of the signal. I ask this because my cable company is about to supply me with a receiver for their high def. signal and I'm wondering if it's going to flip back and forth between the number of lines it feeds the TV as I change channels.

Digital Satellite TV receivers will output whatever the signal source is. They don't have scalers. They're mostly source dependent. But, I'm sure some higher cost receivers might have them, but I'm not sure who does.

What brand of receiver is it? What model? It might come with a DVI ouput, especially if it's a free receiver. Is it free? Remember, digital sateliite service provides use HDCP material.

If it does switch back and forth it wont do any damage to the TV set. I hear a lot of people getting worried about having their HDTV set switching between digital material, and standard material. There should be no worries. I've had my HDTV set for 4 years now, and I always switch between standard and digital channels on a frequent basis. So far, so good.

 

[Danoff]

Digital Satellite TV receivers will output whatever the signal source is. They don't have scalers. They're mostly source dependent. But, I'm sure some higher cost receivers might have them, but I'm not sure who does.

What brand of receiver is it? What model? It might come with a DVI ouput, especially if it's a free receiver. Is it free? Remember, digital sateliite service provides use HDCP material.

If it does switch back and forth it wont do any damage to the TV set. I hear a lot of people getting worried about having their HDTV set switching between digital material, and standard material. There should be no worries. I've had my HDTV set for 4 years now, and I always switch between standard and digital channels on a frequent basis. So far, so good.

It is free. The problem is that my composite in only accepts HD signals... so I don't know what will happen if the receiver/DVR thing they're giving me switches between standard and HD as it outputs. I don't know which receiver they're going to give me.

 

[Solid Lifters]

It is free. The problem is that my composite in only accepts HD signals... so I don't know what will happen if the receiver/DVR thing they're giving me switches between standard and HD as it outputs. I don't know which receiver they're going to give me.

I think you meant component. I hope you did!

OK, the component output of a HD reciever is all "digital TV", (Red Green Blue), but the signal is sent out in analog via a component connection. So, there's no need to worry about your component input not displaying your receivers images. Are you sure your input wont display non high-def material? I've never, ever heard of that before, especially for a component input. I have one non-high-def sat receiver connected to my HDTV set with component cables, so all is good.

What brand and model is your TV set?

 

[a6m5]

I've never, ever heard of that before, especially for a component input. I have one non-high-def sat receiver connected to my HDTV set with component cables, so all is good.

What brand and model is your TV set?

I've never heard of that, either.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I've never heard of that, either.

I've heard of the opposite way, though. Some component inputs are not "Wideband" or are "narrowband" inputs. They only take 480i and 480p. But never the reverse.

 

[a6m5]

I've heard of the opposite way, though. Some component inputs are not "Wideband" or are "narrowband" inputs. They only take 480i and 480p. But never the reverse.

Component inputs been around long before the progressive scans, so I guess that has something to do with that, but I don't know how that is. I'm confused again.

How do you know so much about this stuff. You work at Circuit City or something?

 

[Danoff]

I think you meant component. I hope you did!

OK, the component output of a HD reciever is all "digital TV", (Red Green Blue), but the signal is sent out in analog via a component connection. So, there's no need to worry about your component input not displaying your receivers images. Are you sure your input wont display non high-def material? I've never, ever heard of that before, especially for a component input. I have one non-high-def sat receiver connected to my HDTV set with component cables, so all is good.

What brand and model is your TV set?

Ok, their receiver works just fine with my set. I guess I have one digital component and the other is analog? All I know is that if I hook up my older DVD player to the compenent input marked "HDTV" it comes out garbled. Anyway all seems to be good at this point with their receiver and my set working together.

Except...

Their receiver seems to be set up to display 1080i and I have an LCD TV, so I wanted to switch it to 720p - but I can't manage to do that. I'm going to look into it some more, find the brand of the receiver and see if I can get into the nitty gritty to switch modes. As it is now I know something is just a bit off with the image because my TV is a 15:9 television but the image fills the screen, so it may be just slightly stretched. Also, 4:3 images are not centered on the screen, so the black band on one side of the screen is bigger than the other - which is odd.

Anyway I'm still working on getting to the bottom of this. Originally I just wanted the component-to-DVI cable so that I could hook my older DVD player up to the DVI input instead of the crappy (analog?) component input. But it's ok because I can keep using my computer as a DVD player.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Ok, their receiver works just fine with my set. I guess I have one digital component and the other is analog? All I know is that if I hook up my older DVD player to the compenent input marked "HDTV" it comes out garbled.

No, both are analog. Remember, component is analog only. But, one is most likely HD only, and the other 480i only. The component output of your DVD player might be 480p and you connected to the HD only input. Or, your DVD player doesn't have component outputs at all and you hooked it up wrong. He-he. Sorry, didn't mean to poke too much fun at ya.

Anyway all seems to be good at this point with their receiver and my set working together.

Excellent.

Except...

Uh oh...

Their receiver seems to be set up to display 1080i and I have an LCD TV, so I wanted to switch it to 720p - but I can't manage to do that. I'm going to look into it some more, find the brand of the receiver and see if I can get into the nitty gritty to switch modes. As it is now I know something is just a bit off with the image because my TV is a 15:9 television but the image fills the screen, so it may be just slightly stretched. Also, 4:3 images are not centered on the screen, so the black band on one side of the screen is bigger than the other - which is odd.

It will take some tweaking around to find out the correct way to view content from your receiver. Check the video display output setup of the receiver like, 720p, 1080i, wide screen, full screen, etc. You might be able to change it around. That is odd about 4:3 problems. Never heard of it.

Anyway I'm still working on getting to the bottom of this. Originally I just wanted the component-to-DVI cable so that I could hook my older DVD player up to the DVI input instead of the crappy (analog?) component input. But it's ok because I can keep using my computer as a DVD player.

If you still remember it, give me the exact model number of your LCD and DVD player, so I can see the best possible way to connect each other.

 

[Danoff]

No, both are analog. Remember, component is analog only. But, one is most likely HD only, and the other 480i only. The component output of your DVD player might be 480p and you connected to the HD only input. Or, your DVD player doesn't have component outputs at all and you hooked it up wrong. He-he. Sorry, didn't mean to poke too much fun at ya.

S'ok. The deal with my DVD player is that it doesn't upconvert, and I don't even thing it's progressive scan.... but it does have a standard def component connection. So when I run that to the standard def component connection on the TV I get a pretty bad picture. I had always assumed it was the TV but I guess it's possible that it could be my DVD player.... no I don't think it is actually because I tried lots of different DVD players including a progressive scan one and it still looked like crap - so it's got to be the component connection on the TV that's mucking things up.

But, here's my DVR:

http://support2.charter.com/support/digital-cable/contentredirect.asp

It has an input (though it looks like composite). Perhaps I could use the DVR to upconvert my DVD player and get a good signal. I plan to play with this later.

It will take some tweaking around to find out the correct way to view content from your receiver. Check the video display output setup of the receiver like, 720p, 1080i, wide screen, full screen, etc. You might be able to change it around. That is odd about 4:3 problems. Never heard of it.

I figured out how to make it do 720p and all that stuff (you have to turn on the unit a special way)... but it looks like 1080i is marginally better than 720p... they have different issues. 720p on my screen is ever so slightly pixilated at times. 1080i doesn't have this problem but the image isn't quite as sharp. So it's a trade off between very minor artifacts and a little blur. I'm choosing the blur over the artifacts because it just looks a little better. Either way if you're not right next to the TV (like I was when I was picking between the inputs) I don't think they're noticable.


So here's my setup.

TV
Dell 30" HD LCD
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/3X_lcd30?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

DVD 1
Crappy Non-progressive Scan Sony DVD Player with Componenet Connections.
Connection: Component Standard Def.
I tried to find a better DVD player but the Dell component in for standard signals is too weak.

DVD 2
Computer with a Sony internal DVD player and an ATI (I forget which) video card. With this I have a wireless mouse and keyboard so that I can control it from the couch.
Connection: DVI-PC

The PC is my main DVD player.


VCR
Crappy old 4 head VCR
Connection: Composite.
I try not to use this one.

HDDVR
The DVR is supplied by the cable company. They hooked me up with this guy.
http://support2.charter.com/support/digital-cable/contentredirect.asp
Connection HD Componenet.

The only issue I'm still having with the DVR is that 16:9 signals are still getting ever so slightly stretched to fill the 15:9 aspect ratio of the TV (I don't know how to stop that), and the 4:3 images are off-center (and larger on the digital channels)


...I think that's it. No audio receiver yet. I'm still in an apartment so I'm not ready to upgrade to a really monster set of speakers. My TV has pretty good speakers standard anyway.

 

[Solid Lifters]

The links for the DVR didn't work, but that's OK. I understand it's working. Sorry to hear the image isn't fitting the screen as it should, but that's LCD flat screens for ya. They can be a little touchie. Since this is your only HDTV input on your TV, the DVR is it for HDTV viewing on this TV set.

I read the specs for your LCD, and something sounds odd. It has three component inputs, one for HDTV, one regular component for 480p and 480i, but then it has a "TV IN Component" that I've never heard of. Perhaps you connected the DVD player to the TV IN component, and it didn't like it. Check your TV's owners manual to see what's up. Make sure you connect your DVD to the regular component input.

 

[Danoff]

Perhaps you connected the DVD player to the TV IN component, and it didn't like it. Check your TV's owners manual to see what's up. Make sure you connect your DVD to the regular component input.

Nah it only has 2 componenet connections. The TV IN is the standard component connection. Sorry about the links. The DVR is the explorer 8000HD from scientific atlanta.

 

[ceiling_fan]

Hmm, I thought I would revive this thread, it is pretty similar to my problem.

I'd like to hook my PS2 to my monitor through DVI. My monitor has inputs for DVI, VGA, S-Video, and Composite. Since I already have a PS2 component cable, I was looking for a way to connect that to a DVI cable in my monitor. So basically this:

PS2 > Component Out > ??? > DVI cable > monitor

I looked online but it appears that the adapters have only 3 component inputs, whereas my cable has 5 plugs. So, to put that in question form: Can I buy an adapter that takes a component signal and outputs a DVI signal?

Sorry if this is an idiotic question, I'm an idiot about this.

 

[ceiling_fan]

Can anybody answer this? Does my question even make sense?...

 

[opendriver]

This?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999205

or this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10235&cs_id=1023505&p_id=2859&seq=1&format=2

Maybe this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...d=10203&cs_id=1020304&p_id=561&seq=1&format=2

 

[ceiling_fan]

That third one seems to be the right thing. Thanks for looking. 👍

Actually, it looks like a VGA connection. I've heard that PS2 over VGA looks very bad, can anyone explain/verify this? Thanks

 

[Azuremen]

Umm... you sure two of those plugs aren't audio? That old 5 cable bit in the third one is ancient for hooking up a monitor.

I'm going to be two of the plugs, red and white, are for stereo audo out from the PS2. So I imagine the first 2 linked up there are what you are looking for...