corvettes

[icandriftbetter]

is it just me or is the zo6 a lot more mild in gt4. it was one of my favorite cars in gt3 and in gt4 it sounds weak and its not as fun to drive

 

[Robot]

To me it's been getting easier and easier to drive with each version.

 

[FAOLIU05]

is it just me or is the zo6 a lot more mild in gt4. it was one of my favorite cars in gt3 and in gt4 it sounds weak and its not as fun to drive

This time around the Z06 isn't some 13 to high 12 second car, like it was in GT3. I test drove one in the Arcade Mode, and it ran pefectly. Actually, it ran more than perfect - hitting a top speed of 180mph+ (I can't really remember how high it was into the 180mph range), and finishing the 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds at 117mph (but it averages out between 12.6 - 12.5). So thats a little better than stock. I ended up buying a Z06 for my first car, and for the longest time I kicked major ass with it, using only upgraded sports tires.

However, I don't like the way it sounded stock. The real Z06 has quite a throaty V8. I hope in GT5 that they fix that.

 

[Physics]

To get a good V8 sound out of the Z06 put the Stage 2 exhaust on it, its sounds a lot similar to the Stage 3 sound it had in GT3. The thing growls pretty good, stage 1 and 3 exhausts sound like crap though.

If anything the 2005 Mustang is very very underrated. I raced the 97 Z28 vs that new Mustang and it killed it. Wtf? That shouldn't happen, it should at least be close to the 02 SS or beating it.

Althought I kind of figured this was going to happen, but they also didn't underrate the 69 Z/28. It's literally 296 hp instead of the close to 400 the car really had. They really need some kind of American representative and a European representative to help make this game right.

 

[icandriftbetter]

hmm, i havent tried out the 05 yet, is it worth fully modding?

 

[Chris Criswell]

The 05 Mustang GT sounds like a Model T on Steroids with a Racing Exhaust, I highly recommend lsitening to it.

 

[Zardoz]

hmm, i havent tried out the 05 yet, is it worth fully modding?

Yes, its surprisingly good.

 

[Supren]

Wow, someone actually made a thread on this, a while back when i first got GT4 inoticed the same thing. I was pretty disoppointed when i heard the sound of the modified exhaust on the Z06. But o well and ever since that day i last used it i never got back on it again cuz of that same reason.

 

[Joecool593]

They really need some kind of American representative and a European representative to help make this game right.

Yeah, I think so too, but personally, I could argue all day about how there are a multitude of NSX's and Evo's and Skylines and not NEAR enough classic muscle machines ...but I'd never win in this forum, many have tried.

 

[FAOLIU05]

IMO, if they're going to release this game in America, you'd think they better damn well make sure that they don't half ass the American car selection so that they can appeal to the public and attract more sales. But seeing as how people (producers/consumers) overlook American cars any how, I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference, allowing PD to get away with half assed POS American cars that sound like 4-bangers. Most people are in it for the imports and other reasons not revolving around American cars.

 

[Slicks]

^^^Unfortunately, yeah.

It seems that PD screws up all the latest versions of the 'Vette that are in-game. They screwed over the ZR-1 in GT2, but made the GranSport sound good in GT3 and GT4. So if the pattern continues, in GT5 the C5 Corvette will sound right, and the C6 will sound like crap.

It seems as though PD need a lesson in V8's. They haven't gotten one single torque/power curve right, and almost always manage to screw up the sound.

 

[63AvantiR3]

Did someone call for an American representative? I'll volunteer for that position gladly. I'm 27 years old and know my American muscle. I like other cars too, but I am partial to the American cars. My dad ruined me; I got to drive his 1963 Studebaker Avanti to High School. Ever since then I haven't been able to really enjoy anything that isn't torquey by nature.

I daily drive a Rabbit GTi, but that's because I also like to carve canyons in the asphalt and my Rabbit isn't stock either.

I fit the bill for the representative because if I don't have the answer, I know where to find it. I could also aid whomever wants to be the European representative. I know a little bit about those cars too.

 

[UnlimitedZero]

American and European cars have had the lowest numbers since GT1. But it seems that they make it up by killing every single Japanese car stock. The only car that Japan has that can stand a chance stock is the R390, even then the Ford GT, Cien, SLR, etc...just kills every thing. I think that PD is scared of American cars taking over the market. It's funny to see a stock corvette take out most the Japanese market. I also hate PD for this, but have you notice that they will put in an American car or European car in with 4 other very high HP Japanese cars, i.e. Corvette raceing car vs. Nissan R92, Ford GT vs. 787B, '63 corvette coupe vs Skyline, Buick Special vs LM race cars, Shelby Mustang vs Evo VIII, etc... I've every race where American and European cars get "jumped" by Japanese cars. I guess that's PD's way of keeping control. You can go to Like the wind, GT all-stars, GT world cup, and even arcade mode to see this. I guarantee that they will try to throw in the worst American car they can find for the HP value and the best Japanese car they can use. It's like PD is saying FU Americans, and Europeans.

 

[Dave A]

Going back to PD needing representatives, yeah they do. Peter Wheeler would be a good one.

 

[95GTIVR6]

American and European cars have had the lowest numbers since GT1. But it seems that they make it up by killing every single Japanese car stock. The only car that Japan has that can stand a chance stock is the R390, even then the Ford GT, Cien, SLR, etc...just kills every thing. I think that PD is scared of American cars taking over the market. It's funny to see a stock corvette take out most the Japanese market. I also hate PD for this, but have you notice that they will put in an American car or European car in with 4 other very high HP Japanese cars, i.e. Corvette raceing car vs. Nissan R92, Ford GT vs. 787B, '63 corvette coupe vs Skyline, Buick Special vs LM race cars, Shelby Mustang vs Evo VIII, etc... I've every race where American and European cars get "jumped" by Japanese cars. I guess that's PD's way of keeping control. You can go to Like the wind, GT all-stars, GT world cup, and even arcade mode to see this. I guarantee that they will try to throw in the worst American car they can find for the HP value and the best Japanese car they can use. It's like PD is saying FU Americans, and Europeans.

Not that they are scared, its just that in Japan, your insurance for your car depends on the number of cylinders it has. Thats why you dont see many V8 powered vehicles rolling off the line in Japan. I dont think they are "Scared" of American Cars, they really just dont have an equally matched motor. In the game, i see the American cars as just being misrepresented. I would say that PD has done a pretty slack job in choosing American cars for their game, European cars as well, but not as bad. A good example of this would be the used car lots. If they were accurate you would see more American cars along with a few more European cars, but I think that Europe overall is represented quite well in the used car area.

 

[FAOLIU05]

You know... Come to think of it... I was racing at in Arcade Mode at the Test Tack with a Z06. I was going up against a Supra, RX-7, 3000GT, WRX STi, Skyline R34 GTR, and BMW M3. I was going around 180mph coming out of the first turn - and the Supra, RX-7, and Skyline GTR passed me up.

 

[2005mustang]

If anything the 2005 Mustang is very very underrated.

That's for sure. I compared the times i got with it to the ones in real life.

____________GT4___________Real life

0-60 mph____6.3+ __________5.1

1/4 mile_____ 14.7+ ________ 13.5

But what i dont understand is how PD could have messed up the times,making the car slower, if they had actually driven the car?

 

[FAOLIU05]

That's for sure. I compared the times i got with it to the ones in real life.

____________GT4___________Real life

0-60 mph____6.3+ __________5.1

1/4 mile_____ 14.7+ ________ 13.5

But what i dont understand is how PD could have messed up the times,making the car slower, if they had actually driven the car?

Wait a minute... Try running a stock Mustang GT in Arcade Mode under Time Trial at the Test Course.

Under Gran Turismo Mode, I bought a Z06 which averaged out in the 13 second range, stock. I then went into Arcade Mode to confirm this so that I can rant about it here, but I saw that it actually ran better than stock a few times.

But sometimes I'd get so fed up. I sometimes think that a lot of American cars are just generic models with horsepower thrown in them. I had to put every sport modification on my Z06 to get it to run 12.6 - and even then I couldn't get 12.5 or lower.

 

[2005mustang]

Wait a minute... Try running a stock Mustang GT in Arcade Mode under Time Trial at the Test Course.

Under Gran Turismo Mode, I bought a Z06 which averaged out in the 13 second range, stock. I then went into Arcade Mode to confirm this so that I can rant about it here, but I saw that it actually ran better than stock a few times.

But sometimes I'd get so fed up. I sometimes think that a lot of American cars are just generic models with horsepower thrown in them. I had to put every sport modification on my Z06 to get it to run 12.6 - and even then I couldn't get 12.5 or lower.

if you mean going up to the start line and stopping in front of it and then going off full throttle, than you are right. it is a bit faster, but I dont see how it can be. It really should be faster in the first place anyway.

 

[FAOLIU05]

My theory:

In GT Mode, a stock 2000 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 does around 13.2 seconds, even when I have the TCS up at 7 (which for me is the ideal placement).

It was only after I put on sport modifications that I finally got it running 12.6 seconds in the 1/4 and got it handling like it should.

You might also want to go hard-sport tires because the Z06 uses Goodyear F1 Eagle high-performance tires. So also keep that in mind also.

But like I said man, they're just harsh renderings with a fixed amount of horsepower over generic rolling gear and transmissions.

 

[2005mustang]

I can get 13.7XX 1/4 mile at 104 mph and 0-60 mph in 5.3XX with nothing but racing super-soft tires, and that's all very well in a straight line but over turns and twists it gives me a great edge over my opponents which I dont want. With Sports Exaust, Racing chip, Sports flywheel,Sports Clutch,Close Transmission and a Carbon Driveshaft as well as a Super-charger thrown in on Road Tires I get 1/4 mile in 14.494 seconds at 112 mph and 0-60 in 6+ seconds. That is still pretty bad though.

 

[63AvantiR3]

My theory: ...
But like I said man, they're just harsh renderings with a fixed amount of horsepower over generic rolling gear and transmissions.

I agree with a lot of what you guys have said. Though Polyphony Digital did actually get the transmission gearing correct.

The Viper, new Camaro SS, and Corvette ZO6 (which should actually be a 2001, as there was only a fixed-roof coupe in 2000) all have their correct Tremec T56 ratios stock. The SVT Mustang Cobra R also has a T56, but I don't recall which version it got. The Corvette and Viper, to meet Corporate Average Fuel Economy (or CAFE) demands, have 0.74 and 0.50 ratios in 5th and 6th respectively. The F-body cars at the time, Camaro/Firebird, have 0.80 and 0.62 ratios in 5th and 6th respectively. Later on, the ZO6 got recurved transmission ratios and it didn't quite need a 0.50:1 6th gear.

I noticed that the ZO6 in the game starts off with 385 HP but you can get 405 HP (the amount it got after 2002) with some simple tuning. I think it was some combination of Port and Polish, Engine Balancing, and Computer Chip; though I don't know exactly how I got it. I believe you could also put on the Sport Exhaust kit.

 

[Emohawk]

I believe I heard somewhere that the tuning to get to 405 hp is exactly what GM did to get the new output as well.

I like my Grand Sport, it's an amazingly grippy car in GT4. I think mine's got about 150hp more then stock, and it still will not loose traction no matter what I do.

 

[FAOLIU05]

I believe I heard somewhere that the tuning to get to 405 hp is exactly what GM did to get the new output as well.

I like my Grand Sport, it's an amazingly grippy car in GT4. I think mine's got about 150hp more then stock, and it still will not loose traction no matter what I do.

My Z06 has about 170hp over stock, and it doesn't lose any grip with the Hard Sport Tires. It does loose grip only off the line with Medium Sport Tires.

 

[Nate14Gt]

I love everything about the Z06 except it's sound. Sounds really crappy in GT4, other then that it'll own any car you put against it thats in it's class.

 

[icandriftbetter]

someone posted earlier to put a stage 2 exhuast on it. it sounds like it does in gt3

 

[2005mustang]

2005 Ford Mustang gt - I had figured out that the launching was the problem and adding excessive mods would lower the 1/4 mile, but not the 0-60mph. So I did the first weight reduction, then I took the same weight back with ballast in the rear. I added a few mods, tweaking , taking out more weight, experimenting. And got these results:

The modifications: Racing Chip, Supercharger, Triple plate clutch, Racing flywheel,
Carbon Driveshaft. Weight Reduction Stage 3, Port Polish, Ballast weight at 200
at 50 (in the rear)

The testing:
COMFORT tires 0-60mph in 5.7 but the 1/4 mile in 13.485!
ROAD tires 0-60mph in 5.183 and the 1/4 mile in 13.067!
SPORT MEDIUMS 0-60mph in 4.6 and the 1/4 mile in 12.576!

I just wanted to post my discoveries for cars that are slow and have the wheelspin problems. Perhaps this will help them.

Disclaimer: If this was posted before I apologize with my utmost sincerity
for I was unaware of them. Once again, hope this helps.

 

[chevguy]

Hasn't anyone informed you that Japanese compacts can blow the doors off of American Muscle?

I'm told all the time how a Civic with an exhaust system and a cold air intake destroys a Z06, or a Viper.. Haven’t you ever seen a stock Lancer, or Prelude go 190 mph?

My favorite story was from a guy in College a couple of years ago. He said that he was participating in a sanction drag race that they hold around here (it's called World War 3, where they put all American Muscle against import cars) and he, in a Prelude with an exhaust system, Air Intake, and an under drive pulley, beat a 69 Camaro with a 396 putting out close to 450 HP "by 5 seconds". Sorry, not going to happen!

Delusional! No offence to anyone here, seriously. But some of these import guys need a reality check.

 

[95GTIVR6]

Hasn't anyone informed you that Japanese compacts can blow the doors off of American Muscle?

Depends on what they have done. Ive seen it happen.

Although, A prelude with just pulleys, exhaust and CAI can NOT beat a 69 Camaro.

 

[chevguy]

Depends on what they have done. Ive seen it happen.

Oh I don't doubt that it's possible. If the mechanic knows what they're doing, you put the right parts in, and have the money, anything is possible. Hell, you could beat a Ferrari on a moped with the right parts.