crappy intercooler placement?

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how is the intercooler placement?

  • Horrible! The guy's an idiot!

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  • It's perfectly fine! (if so why?)

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I'm having an argument with some idiots online and want your opinions, look at the placement of the intercoolers on this Diablo, is't it terrible? It's right behind the rear window, at high speeds air will blow over and miss it and also create a vacuum making the situation worse. True there are vents on the sides but look at the pic , they lead to the air intakes, not the intercooler. What do you guys think?
 

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I;m guess the guy knew what he was doing, plus were would you want them to put it?
 
Originally posted by BlazinXtreme
I;m guess the guy knew what he was doing, plus were would you want them to put it?
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I think the guy put them the only place they would fit there really isn't anywhere else and that he had no idea what the hell he was doing putting a turbo on in the firstplace. In order for the intercooler to do it's job it need air to flow through it that is clearly not the case in this pic. He might as well get rid of the intercoolers altogether.
 
Well, it would be a great location due to the shorter length of hosing needed to put it there, making the air the coldest when it comes into the engine. It probably has a roof scoop forcing air into it. It's actually a great place to put it, because you get more windforce/air speed on the top of the vehicle, versus the lower front.

I say, it was a great idea.
 
Originally posted by toyomatt84
Well, it would be a great location due to the shorter length of hosing needed to put it there, making the air the coldest when it comes into the engine. It probably has a roof scoop forcing air into it. It's actually a great place to put it, because you get more windforce/air speed on the top of the vehicle, versus the lower front.

I say, it was a great idea.
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Except it doesn't have a scoop. It's just a regular SV.
 
I just read your post and it makes even less sense, that is, what you say.

First of all, you want air to hit the intakes, that is called forced induction, you need air to supply into the engine through the turbos. If you don't have enough air fed to the intake, you get high wear problems. So that is fine.

Then you say that there is a problem with having an air vaccum above the car. It doesn't make much a difference. The intercooler just dissipates the heat from the air inside it, which then heads to the engine. More air flowing over the intercooler, just causes it to cool off a little quicker, not lose air pressure. So, that's fine as well. That, and like I said before, it probably has a roof scoop feeding the intercooler.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
Except it doesn't have a scoop. It's just a regular SV.
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Okay, but it doesn't make that much of a difference. The placement is the best for the vehicle. The other guy is correct.
 
Originally posted by toyomatt84
I just read your post and it makes even less sense, that is, what you say.

First of all, you want air to hit the intakes, that is called forced induction, you need air to supply into the engine through the turbos. If you don't have enough air fed to the intake, you get high wear problems. So that is fine.

Then you say that there is a problem with having an air vaccum above the car. It doesn't make much a difference. The intercooler just dissipates the heat from the air inside it, which then heads to the engine. More air flowing over the intercooler, just causes it to cool off a little quicker, not lose air pressure. So, that's fine as well. That, and like I said before, it probably has a roof scoop feeding the intercooler.
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I'm not saying it wont work I'm saying it's not effective, if air flowing over it creates a vaccum (meaning the faster air moving over the car is sucking air away from the intercooler) it's bad. you wait air flowing towards it not being sucked away. If he had a scoop it would be great but he doesn't so it sucks.
 
The only reason that a vacuum on top of the inter cooler sucking air from the interior of the car is any worse than air blowing into the car is that that latter will have high velocities in most cases and that the hot of of the interior will pass over the intercooler and heat rather than cool the air flowing through in the IC... It is better to get as cold as possilbe air from the environment which makes the placement of the filters good... The intercooler is secondary, and while its placement is not ideal i think a more important ? would be to ask what is it sitting above. If that is the engine and the IC is not recieving that lots of cold air this design would have been better off with something else... like liquid heat exchangers... or even something as simple as angling the IC in the direction of flow...

BTW that makes for one fatty intercooler.
 
Originally posted by bengee
The only reason that a vacuum on top of the int cooler sucking air from teh interior of hte car is any worse than air blowing into the car is that that latter will have high velocities in most cases and that the hot of of hte interior will pass over the intercooler and heat rather than cool the air flowing through in the IC... It is better to get as cold as possilbe air from the environment which makes the placement of the filters good... The intercooler is secondary, and while its placement is not idea i think a more important ? would be to ask what is it sitting above. If that is the engine and the int is not recieving that much air this design would have been bettwe off with something else... like liquid heat exchangers...

BTW that makes for one fatty intercooler.
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just shoot some Naws on it!
 
if he doesnt have a roof scoop then the guy is stupid
 
Originally posted by Monster7
Wow, that is a ton of plumbing..
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My first reaction as well... look at how the pipes bend around at least twice to get to the IC and to the engine intake...
 
I'm wondering if all the extra weight of the turbo(s, is it a twin or single turbo?), intercooler, and tubing is worth the extra hp gain... unless the owner is modding it for drag racing. Even then, it would still hurt low end acceleration.

And the owner of that car needs some Aerodynamics 101. Hardly any air will hit the intercooler.

And lol @ monster's av
 
you can see from the pic it is twin turbo + twin intercoolers, and yes that extra weight would easily be worth it. that lambo would be pumping out some serious hp

also skylineGTR_guy i would like to see some more pics of that car, i am really suprised that it doesnt have roof scoops
 
Ev0, the twin turbo idea is actually a smart one for the Lamborghini, due to it's amazing torque curve. It could easily benefit from turbos, and since the RPM's are on the lower side, twin smaller turbos work better than one huge one, because it takes less to get them spinning.
 
Originally posted by Ev0
And the owner of that car needs some Aerodynamics 101. Hardly any air will hit the intercooler.
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I forgot what the Diablos looked like (not a big fan of Lambo...) but I'm purdy sure the air gets to the ICs just fine even at high speeds, but it depends on the design of the rear of the car.
 
Show us some other pictures of the car. You said it wasn't turboed, it obviously is, or those are superchargers, either way, it's got forced induction (obviously) so who's to say it doesnt have air feeding into the engine compartment? If it doesnt have any other scoops, please show us pictures of the SV to prove it.
 
He could have re-routed them to the side intakes, but that wouldn't leave place for the radiators. He might have a custom hood with vents, however.
 
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
Show us some other pictures of the car. You said it wasn't turboed, it obviously is, or those are superchargers,
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they are turbo's

i think skylineGTR meant that "standard" diablo didnt comeout turbo charged, although i do know that lamborghini has made turbocharged diablos (eg Diablo VTT, and prototype VTTTT which is quad turbo)
 
Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
they are turbo's

i think skylineGTR meant that "standard" diablo didnt comeout turbo charged, although i do know that lamborghini has made turbocharged diablos (eg Diablo VTT, and prototype VTTTT which is quad turbo)
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yeah, he asked if diablos came turboed and I said no (with the exclusion of the VTT and VTTTT) that glass is the rear window as you can see the intercollers would be right behind the glass and right above the engine.

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The two pics look like different cars to me... I mean you can see the sides slant down from teh top of hte engine and stuff... Unlike the above car... so it sould be another diablo model could it not... I really do not know enough about lambos
 
the diablo with the turbo would have to have a custom lid over the engine, there is no way you can fit those intercoolers onder the standard recessed lid
 
I'm pretty sure they thought of the ventilation, That pic is from the nomad diablo.

[edit] dammit i'm trying to find the article, read it just a cpl of days ago...
 

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