Create thumbnails for all cars - How is it working for you?

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I have a bit of a query about the thumbnail thing, nothing major, but I was under the impression when you regenerated a thumbnail for the car, as mentioned above in a previous post, if it is lowered, the pic should reflect that, but it doesn't! It's mainly with the standard cars, for example one of the gazillion mx5's/miata's, if I lower it as much as poss, then redo the thumbnail, it is still at standard ride height. Anyone else experience this?
 
It worked fine for me too, it was saying uploading for about half an hour for about 900 (standard) cars more or less.
 
powerdrome
@GT_johan
@sdf

... what about your gamesave file? Did it increase?
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My game save has increased a tiny bit from 3.56- 3.60, but I also recieved some gifts and purchased various things which could account for some or possibly all of that. Another thing to remember is that the 2.0 update reduced the size of save's, mine went down by 1 MB.


For those folks having problems with thumbnails that have been regenerated but arent showing up try the following. Cycle through all of the different thumbnail veiws by pushing the square button, this should bring all of the newly regenerated thumbnails back. It workeed for me in the past, I havent tried it recently though.

To the comment above, yes these thumbnails are used online as well.
 
powerdrome
@GT_johan
@sdf

... what about your gamesave file? Did it increase?
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The game save, i dont think so, but I have an old game save back-up, before Spec-2, i'll check it and come back to you.

The normal thing would be, the game data to increase size, this is were thumbnails are stored after all.

awr117
Are thumbnails available while viewing your garage in an online lobby?
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Yes as grog said, in upper right corner in car settings.
 
The normal thing would be, the game data to increase size, this is were thumbnails are stored after all.

... mhh, I noticed the increase in filesize after the recreate thumbnails thing, after that i purchased the new DLCs, so i have new tickets in the garage still to redeem, and other giftd from online players.

What should be the cause of the size increase?
What is saved on the Gamesave?
Is there anyway to clean and decrease the file size?
 
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No mate the game save size haven't increased, actually was decreased now about 800kb.

powerdrome
What is saved on the Gamesave?
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I know for fact cause i have deleted the game data, but before spec 2 update (i dont know if that makes any difference) that Game save contains:
Game Settings (controller button layout, music settings, Units etc etc)
Home settings (Top screen background photo, color)
and the rest of the obvious things,
Garage (and what ever comes with it)
Suits, Helmets. Tickets, Horns,Paints.
It doesn't contains your replays, photos, (if you delete the game data you also loose the profile pic).

powerdrome
What should be the cause of the size increase?
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Pretty much everything that you get (cars, suits etc etc) and is stored to Games save.

Long time ago there was an issue that browsing the Museum Gallery was increasing the game save size, i dont know if the Museum cards are stored in your game save or on-line cause without the latest update you cant go on-line so i couldn't check the Museum, but it was fixed.
News Article
https://www.gtplanet.net/this-gran-turismo-5-bug-can-kill-your-game/

powerdrome
Is there anyway to clean and decrease the file size?
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No as far as i know. If anyone knows anything about it, i would like to know also.

Here is my save (if that helps)
Days: 2918
Cars: 1115
Helmets:115
Suits:112
Special Outfit: 12
Horns: 97
Paints: 1852
Tickets:5
Museum Cards:1090
Size: 3443kb
 
I think I found the reason; i tried this:
1.
I loaded an OLD save when I had 800 cars; in the garage some thumbnails where messed up (picture of several cars on other model/make) and only few missing at all; i did the recreate thumbnails thing; i got a small increase in filesave size, 100kb or so.

2.
Loaded my newest savefile with 1111 cars; in the garage some thumbnails where messed up (picture of several cars on other model/make) and MANY missing at all; i did the recreate thumbnails thing; i got a BIG increase in filesave size, from 1.8MB to 4.3MB.

CONCLUSION
The thumbnails themself are contained in the savefile; you don't get big increase in the savefile because you don't have any missing (or few missing) thumbnails in the garage; i formated and reinstalled my ps3 earlier in february 2011 therefore something screwed my garage (thumbs missing), now recreating everything my savefile increased.
Infact having 1111 cars and a savefile of only 1,9MB... wasn't it strange.

That's my thoughts anyway...
 
Hmmm, then it seems your issue is related to the thumbnails... interesting. And I find it interesting 'cause, in a way, it doesn't make any sense. If you format your HDD today, after saving a backup of your 4.3MBs file, and then reinstall everything and copy your backup save to the system, once you load the game, the thumbnails glitch will happen again, but your save file will still be 4.3MBs...
So unless it shrinks back, which I doubt, 'cause of the missing thumbnails, it doesn't make any sense, 'cause, if it doesn't shrink, then your 4.3MBs file will be 6.8MBs once all the thumbnails are restored again ? Unless the game doesn't do this exponential increase everytime one uses the thumbnails restore feature (meaning, in your case, it will always be around 4.3MBs as long as you keep 1.111 cars in it, therefore, restoring the thumbnails again, in case of need, wouldn't increase the file to 6.8MBs).

(4.3 - 1.8 = 2.5MBs, so 4.3 *with thumbnails missing or wrong* + 2.5 = 6.8MBs... really puzzling, 'cause I don't think a savefile shrinks back due to the thumbnails glitch being triggered again and again and again, 'cause it's weird if everytime one restores them, that the save file increases exponentially like this). It's also weird that the thumbnails go missing. If they were really saved in one's savefile, why do they get glitched once we restore our systems then ? That's why, in a way, I still don't think it should increase your file by such a huge amount of bytes like this.
 
No, I did a backup in february when my garage was 220 cars.
I raced till may --> garage 1111 SAVE 1,9MB
Restored the february backup, and copied the actual save
restored thumbnails
gamesave increased....
does it make more sense?
 
Yes, now it does.

It's weird though, that such a glitch happens, when the thumbnails are "stored" in one's save file. Why do they go missing in the first place then ? (if they are supposedly "saved").
 
this is correct too.
the important thing is to listen from other "big-garage" guys that their savefile is more than 5MB and my 4.3MB is not so strange.
Am i right?
 
Yes you're right. Like I said before, I thought your 1.8MBs were with no thumbnails missing and/or wrong, and that the file increased exponentially once you restored the thumbnails when the glitch happened. If this was the case, it would mean that the file would always increase by 2MBs or more everytime one needed to restore the thumbnails, which could easily make files go up to 10MBs or more. I guess this will not be the case then.
It's still weird that they go missing if they're saved on the save file though.
 
this last puzzle maybe depend on the fact that i backed up on february, continued to play, but i already got all the cars in february; only after the gamesave bug came out, you remember there was an update mybe the 1.06, that changed the way gt5 manage the thumbs on the gamesave; also some missing thumbs should be explained with the trading movements give, receive, restore gamesave... a big mess...
 
powerdrome
this last puzzle maybe depend on the fact that i backed up on february, continued to play, but i already got all the cars in february; only after the gamesave bug came out, you remember there was an update mybe the 1.06, that changed the way gt5 manage the thumbs on the gamesave; also some missing thumbs should be explained with the trading movements give, receive, restore gamesave... a big mess...
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@ChloeSMV
i did one last try, and i wanted to know what do you think...
once recreated and saved my last gamesave 4,3MB i tried to reload my savegame prior to spec 2.00 1,9MB, i loaded the game i saved in game without going in the garage or doing nothing with the thumbnails, i switched off the game and the gamesave increased to 4,3MB...
how should it be now? is like the gamedata is updated with the new thumbs and when you save gt5 puts it in your gamesave?
 
That only adds to the puzzle. lol
I don't really think the thumbs are saved in our save files, 'cause if they were, there would never be this glitch, unless GT5 is a serious bad programmed software (and we know how buggy it is, not only regarding thumbnails, but a lot of other stuff). They have to be saved somewhere though, maybe the gamedata, or maybe they are indeed saved on our files. Nevertheless, whichever they are saved to, they shouldn't go missing or get wrong data from time to time when the triggers for this glitch, well...trigger it. All we can know for sure is that PD knew since the beginning the thumbnails had this glitch, as the restore function came with the disc version of the game. The only difference now is that they added a "restore to all cars" feature, but the "core" feature was present all along, since day one. It was annoying to do it one by one though. I guess we'll never really know everything about this bug, powerdrome.

Sometimes, when I send gifts to friends, I delete my save and replace it, so everything that I sent is there again. Several times, I went to my garage and all thumbnails were alright. That's what leads me to think they're not saved in the saved game data, 'cause, if I restore my original save after sending gifts or whatever other operations I want or need to do, the thumbnails are fine, but if I loaded an old save to do some operations (or if one creates a "new game save", it's the same as loading a different file than your original), and then replace with my original save, then the thumbnails get glitched. So, how come they get glitched sometimes, and not at other times ? This is why I think they're not saved in our files, but it's just a guess though.

My save file is currently at 2MBs, and I only have 200 cars I think. So, with 400 cars, assuming it's 1MB per 100 cars (in my case at least), my file will be 4MBs. You have 1.111 cars, so a save file of 4.3MBs... wow, you should consider yourself lucky, really! lol! xD
 
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ChloeSMV
This is why I think they're not saved in our files, but it's just a guess though.
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When I did a full reinstall of GT5 (throwing away all gamedata, initially from within the game itself, next from XMB) most of them were gone after reinstall. I used the exact same savegame, so the pictures are not in your savegame (or they would all be still intact). I suspect they are stored in the same way as photos and replays before you export them: somewhere internally. Gamedata is most likely, because my replays and photos were all gone after doing the full reinstall.

Anyway, restoring them all for 720 cars took less time than I expected: an hour or so. With 5-10 seconds per car, I expected it to take a bit longer.
 

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