Creating multiple user accounts to reap the benefits of Seasonal Events

[Paul Tracy]

I think people get too worked up over the exploit term and tend to assume it means the same thing as cheating which it most definitely does not.

Exploiting is not a bad thing. It just means you are taking advantage of something such as using 2 psn accounts which is requires you to do nothing other than sign into the other account. Psn is designed to work this way and they knew it. If the developers had a problem with this they would have done something to prevent it. I really doubt they care what people do with their game as long as they enjoy it.

Cheating on the other hand is frowned upon and requires irregular activity on the user's part. Such as the changing of save files to make hybrid cars. Things like this are dishonest, and can negatively effect others if it were possible online. However many people seem to think anything other than how they feel it should be is cheating, i.e. using skid recovery and active stability. Those people don't know what the hell cheating actually means and or they just want to feel superior.

Exploits = not bad
Cheats = bad
People's own definitions = retarded

Well said.

 

[ucwepn]

OK I did this last night with the express purpose of having a GTP_ tagged psn account that I can use for online. Sent my spare citroen c4 wrc to this account, did the seasonal event gained much dollars and went through and did the rest of the events. Was level 24 in 3 hours with over $4 million. I have mixed feelings about this, My main account is all legitimate never duped or cloned level 33 and have over 440 cars but all thats left for me to do is seasonals and endurances. I started the new account and was immediately level 17 after the first seasonal with the wrc, I did unlock events etc but I did not recieve any level tickets which is fair enough and I'm not really bothered as I have acheived my purpose of a dedicated online psn that has its own earning capacity and a different day UCD is a bonus.

 

[nocoolname]

I did this with another account. Bought a Miata in the UCD, raced until I could buy a Prius, did the Prius race, and that funded the money for everything else. currently at a little over 4 mil credits and lvl 23, although I've got a couple of seasonals left to do. I did this to get more rotations in the UCD. If I do the races, earn the cash, and buy the cars, does it matter which account I use it on? My main account is lvl 28 in a-spec, The only thing my other account can do that my main can't is buy cars at a 'different' UCD so to speak.

 

[gslooney]

If you want an exploit I think it would be duping..

i.e. buy the first car from your main account win the race then gift to the secondary account, Dupe it to your third account, then dupe from third to fourth, then dupe from fourth to fifth!!

Do this with each race a day at a time(not much racing I admit, and not much cash gain on the main account because your spending your winnings on cars for the events.)

each of your accounts will now have about 7mill credits after a couple of weeks (assuming you can win the races)..

Now each day you can exploit via the save game restore i.e buy a car with your duping accounts and gift it to the main account, then restore the savegame and be back with the cash you originally had in the duping accounts!!

You can buy just about any 4 or five cars a day from the dealerships..

Did I just kill trading in premium cars!!!!

Of course if you do this, you will have a fine garage but will miss the fun you could be having online or with other players, or in the challenges..

then again once you have every car you want, take your time and go through the challenges.

The real test of achievement remains in my opinion your license status!
and the seasonal events should be more like these challenges imho.

e.g.
you cannot pick or modify the car etc.. it's a pure driving challenge, or you can only adjust the car setup to win the challenge (develops understanding if you don't just copy another setup) and perhaps you don't even need to buy the car for the challenge, it's a loaner.. or a B spec bob challenge?

next change, you can only receive one car a day ... what do you think?

 

[dekciw]

In my opinion gifting a car to your friend, means his cheating.

yes, i was cheating too.

regards

 

[Evillseed]

Making seperate accounts to farm cash is no differnet then doing grinding at Indy. I see nothing wrong with it

This.

There is functionally no difference in how you choose to acquire a resource that is unlimited.

In a sense, you're 'selling' your daily trade instead of grinding Indy races. PS-Because of the time involved, running Indy may actually make the dough almost as fast anyway.

After reading the above quote on multiple accts. it's obvious you can abuse it to earn more cash quicker, but still mostly ok since grinding Indy is 1 mil+/hr. making virtually any streetcar available and tuned in 1/2 hr or so.

 

[iainn]

I've just done this over the last few days, gifted some cars and bought some and have ended up with 5 million credits and enough xp to get to level 24 just by doing the last 2 sets of seasonal events.

Have now bought the FGT and gifted it back to my main account.

 

[reverand33]

i was doing this as i stated before. two days ago i tried logging into my only other account to send a car back to my main account and my 2nd account is gone. so i lost all my non-duped cars used for farming money from the seasonals. ex: c4 wrc, ford gt, gtr v-spec and about 1mil credits. oh well. it was fun while it lasted. at least i got a few cars out of it.

 

[Kwicko]

n/m - Already posted.

 

[VQuick]

I do a lot of 2P Battle with friends. I'm the only person in the group with the game and console, so everyone is building their cars in my garage. When the first friend picked out two cars awhile back and they were 120k before mods, I knew I was going to need some help. Now I'll be dealing with three car classes(according to p/w ratio) for each person, so there was a dire need for some cash.

I started doing the seasonal events on two other accounts so that I could make enough money for my friends to get their cars. I had the pre-order NASCAR from Gamestop, so it was easy to start out and get a cool million for that seasonal race. I also gifted over cars that I had already used for the other seasonal races. This helped me economize a bit, kinda like how you would put your B-Spec driver in the same car you used for the A-Spec version of an event.

I now have around 7m in my 'big cash' account, which is a big deal for me. Before the seasonal races, I was lucky to have more than 100k or so. I'm not looking to use this extra cash in the career mode, so I don't really consider it to be much of an exploit.

 

[shepzki]

I did this, gifted myself a Supra to do one of the more profitable seasonal events and did the rest from there. Also did all the AMG special events to get more cash, now starting to wonder why really as I already have all the really expensive cars in the game. Still will probably keep that account and keep plugging away at it when I get bored. Like people have said, something may show up in the UCD I don't have on my main account which will be handy.

 

[supermacintyre]

You can save yourself alot of TIME and MONEY by sharing cars online for the seasonals. There is no need to use up you "Gifting" slot as if the car is set to online then all friends can access it. I share my cars with friends for all seasonals so they do not need to payout for a particular car. I only have one account but if I had two then this is what I would do.

 

[lochness_bandit]

You don't need to gift, just put it online for anybody to use and then add your alt account as a friend on psn surely?

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

It certainly is an exploit = use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.

Then giving Bob an X1 for 24 hours endurance is an exploit. You are suppose to use a compatible car, watch him for the whole 24 hours, every race all the way up to level 40. But I am sure you are already doing that.

 

[jaycee_xr3]

Yes sir, from SE5 and above I has a second acount... SE7.5 has made my life easier because I don't need to pass one car by day to my second acount.
I don't dupe because I don't see it right ... and I'm lazy too... but my secondary acount buy me nice cars

 

[jaycee_xr3]

Then giving Bob an X1 for 24 hours endurance is an exploit. You are suppose to use a compatible car, watch him for the whole 24 hours, every race all the way up to level 40. But I am sure you are already doing that.

The X1 itself it's a exploit the far-most-irreal car of the game.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

The X1 itself it's a exploit the far-most-irreal car of the game.

Grinding Indy is also an exploit. I am sure you don't do that either.

 

[jaycee_xr3]

Grinding Indy is also an exploit. I am sure you don't do that either.

No I dont. I don't have need to grind, I'm still very busy trying to complete races in A-Spec and collect cars is not in my mind.

 

[lochness_bandit]

To be honest I set up a second account and what I do is buy all the seasonal event cars there then transfer them over one by one each day to my main account. I then use the other 2 days to transfer cars as gifts, like the SLR today :-)

I'm doing this because I don't have time to grind and I want to buy the 20mil classic race cars.

 

[Kwicko]

To be honest I set up a second account and what I do is buy all the seasonal event cars there then transfer them over one by one each day to my main account. I then use the other 2 days to transfer cars as gifts, like the SLR today :-)

I'm doing this because I don't have time to grind and I want to buy the 20mil classic race cars.

See a few posts above; now, with the new online sharing feature, you don't need to transfer your cars one by one. Buy 'em on one account, tune 'em up, run the events, then put them into "Online" shared status, and any account you've friended can then use the cars as well.

I don't think they can do any extra tuning or mods, so you need to have them tuned from the first account.

 

[spapadillion]

Grinding Indy is also an exploit. I am sure you don't do that either.

Grinding Indy is NOT an exploit. No explanation required.

 

[DA__dogg]

I'm guilty of this

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

Grinding Indy is NOT an exploit. No explanation required.

You sure that's how PD intends you to play the game? If Skid Force recovery is cheating, duping is stealing, redoing seasonal with a second account is an exploit, then grinding Indy is taking advantage the high payout/time ratio. Grinding Indy with an over powered car is an exploit.

Funny when you do it, it's okay. And how does other people play their game affect you?

 

[tezster]

Another benefit of a 2nd account is using it as a host to remote-race all your bobs from your primary account. The usefulness of what I like to call a 'helper' account seems to grow with each update

 

[Kwicko]

Another benefit of a 2nd account is using it as a host to remote-race all your bobs from your primary account. The usefulness of what I like to call a 'helper' account seems to grow with each update

Yup, each new update seems to offer us new and exciting reasons to have more than one account. And still, nothing's been done to stop "duping". Most people seem to agree that PD staff watches at least some of the forums, so it's not as if they're unaware that such "cheating" is going on. As I've said before, rather than try to curtail it, they seem to be taking strides to make it EASIER to dupe/gift/glitch.

Why would they do this? WHY make it easier to "cheat"?

Well... if you have more than one PSN account, Sony gets to boast about how many new accounts were set up, and PD gets to take credit, too, since so many of them were set up after GT5 went on sale.

Also, if it's EASIER to get your hands on the really "kewl" cars, that's just one more selling point of the game - it makes it MORE desirable for a large percentage of the casual gamers out there.

Third, many people suppose that PD *wants* to make it hard to collect the best cars in the game. Why is that? They want you to get the cool cars, but why would you think they want it to take forever to do so? Hell, it would make more business sense to have everybody get all the best cars fairly early on (like, say, three to four months in), because PD have already been paid for the games they sold, AND we've all played the hell out of the game, AND they've had time to work on NEW cars and NEW tracks that they can then SELL US - which both puts more money in their pockets AND revitalizes the game and gets you playing it yet again...

Am I claiming this is what's happening? Nope. I'm just saying there's a case to be made for such thinking on PD's part.

But it IS pretty clear that they don't consider duping/gifting/glitching and multiple PSN accounts to be cheating, or they'd have done something about it by now.

And from the last update, it's pretty clear they don't consider Skid Recovery to be "cheating", either.

 

[drivingmeinsane]

If PD hadn't created this ridiculous levelling system and had kept it like it was in GT4 where you HAD to pass the licenses in order to race the higher events and progress in the game unlocked later events, and also not removed multiple car trophy's for grinding, people wouldn't be trying to exploit the game as much as they are (me included prior to the "gifting" patch)....


Just MHO.

 

[spapadillion]

You sure that's how PD intends you to play the game? If Skid Force recovery is cheating, duping is stealing, redoing seasonal with a second account is an exploit, then grinding Indy is taking advantage the high payout/time ratio. grinding Indy with an over powered car is an exploit.

Funny when you do it, it's okay. And how does other people play their game affect you?

I take it you feel PD intented for us to stop playing the game after completing the career mode. If so, why make some events repeatable and not others? The existence of $20,000,000 cars in the game would suggest otherwise.

 

[Kwicko]

I take it you feel PD intented for us to stop playing the game after completing the career mode. If so, why make some events repeatable and not others? The existence of $20,000,000 cars in the game would suggest otherwise.

Yes, but the existence of $20,000,000 cars coupled with the continued existence of the ability to save/gift/reload says that PD realize that grinding Indy 250 times each time you want a "rare" car is a bit ridiculous...

Heck, the mere fact that you can't buy the X2010 until you've "completed" at least one half of the career mode (either A-spec or B-spec level 40) says that PD expects you to keep playing after you've hit L40.

 

[spapadillion]

It is my opinion that PD did not intend for the user to do anything other than backup their save files on a USB drive. Anything beyond that is exploitation.

Honestly, if a game included a feature that required you to save your game, log out, log in to another account, log out, reload your game and log back in to your original account once a day, would you accept that? I very, VERY highly doubt it.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

It is my opinion that PD did not intend for the user to do anything other than backup their save files on a USB drive. Anything beyond that is exploitation.

Honestly, if a game included a feature that required you to save your game, log out, log in to another account, log out, reload your game and log back in to your original account once a day, would you accept that? I very, VERY highly doubt it.

And it's my opinion that you don't push your "opinion" on other people. How other people play their game or what they do is no one's business but their own. Would I accept what? I don't care.

Should people play the game the way that they want to or the way PD wants them to? Or preciously, according to your opinion?

Does PD intend for you to drive in circle for days and days? I very, VERY highly doubt that too.