"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Groundfish]

@05XR8
Shutting the door when required is tough love. After the race just tell them you were saving them from themselves.

 

[RACECAR]

Race B is proving to definitely be the cleanest possible race. I'm thinking its because the first turn prevents any silly divebombs and if anything, punishes you for trying to be a hero (as I've witnessed multiple times).

 

[05XR8]

I'll have that. Now, hop into my Tech 1 RC F, for Race C.

 

[Leftcurl]

I have no clue what you're talking about. Are you on acid? Maybe you're doing that thing I like to do, where I send random messages to people I don't know in the pre-race that has nothing to do with anything. I told one guy "My mom made soup. Where were you?" Messes with their heads.

I did something similar... it was only when i realised my Aunt hadn't been to Cancun before that i decided not to renew my mobile phone contract. Sheesh, the things we have to put up with

 

[tariklehaine]

I have no clue what you're talking about. Are you on acid? Maybe you're doing that thing I like to do, where I send random messages to people I don't know in the pre-race that has nothing to do with anything. I told one guy "My mom made soup. Where were you?" Messes with their heads.

I did something similar... it was only when i realised my Aunt hadn't been to Cancun before that i decided not to renew my mobile phone contract. Sheesh, the things we have to put up with

You guys clearly watched the Psychology (mind games) episode from @Tidgney on YouTube!

 

[MattWang]

Just completed race C this morning, tried to do it with out changing the mediums on my GTR, the understeer was horrific by the end. Not a clean race, my DR and SR have both taken a hit. Some driver swerved across to block me on the straight despite me going way faster, surprise surprise no penalty!

Going again, but going to try the F-Type.....

 

[05XR8]

Dangit. Got 3 consecutive 1.5 second penalties for T1. This , after a VAntage swerved off road in front of me and I took evasive action. It then swerves back onto the track, catches my right rear(it hits me, I didn't swerve into it), goes off again and I get 2.5 seconds!

RC F is a weapon. It has 1hp more than the M6 and weighs the same. Epic brakes and handling. Fought with a GT-R for 3rd, until I got that first penalty.

At DTG, this Huracan seriously rage quit on the last lap. It was ahead all race. I got FL and right at the Fourth Brother curb, got a 0.5 second penalty. It gets to the PZ and just spins the car and quits. Might have had a chance if it kept racing. Oh well. I'll have that.

 

[RZQSPEED]

I had a seriously crap day for racing yesterday....BUT had this gem of a start on the first race. It threw me off so much I never recovered. Too funny....



Might do some Big Willow with Team Lexus tonight. If not, more Monza!!!!!

The catalyst of that bug was a car that was stuck in the pits.

Speaking of Monza, here's a stream by @CapraKiwi, but I'll give you a bit of a lowdown of what's happening here.



I did a 1:46.959 in the GT-R, then headed for the race in the Mustang, which allowed me to start on pole. L1 T1 we go and I and a B/S Kiwi in a Mercedes outbraked the corner to save ourselves from the typical carnage that happens there. The Kiwi however got a 3 second penalty, while I got away without one. More intense fighting ensues as I try to lead the way onto L2 T1...aaand I ended up getting spun by @CapraKiwi in the F-type, which meant a big recovery to do, plus a 3 second penalty for Cap. I'm sure that I ended up turning into him somehow since I ended up not minding my left side. As I recover, I ended up seeing Cap twitching to a Japanese guy in a white Aston and ended up getting a 4 second penalty. Strategy used here for me is a 4M/5M strategy with refuelling. Got held up by a McLaren F1 on the outlap, which costed me a fair bit of time. Finished in P6 with a blue S. Capra wasn't that lucky as he finished a fair few places down with a red A to his name.

 

[tariklehaine]

Dangit. Got 3 consecutive 1.5 second penalties for T1. This , after a VAntage swerved off road in front of me and I took evasive action. It then swerves back onto the track, catches my right rear(it hits me, I didn't swerve into it), goes off again and I get 2.5 seconds!

RC F is a weapon. It has 1hp more than the M6 and weighs the same. Epic brakes and handling. Fought with a GT-R for 3rd, until I got that first penalty.

At DTG, this Huracan seriously rage quit on the last lap. It was ahead all race. I got FL and right at the Fourth Brother curb, got a 0.5 second penalty. It gets to the PZ and just spins the car and quits. Might have had a chance if it kept racing. Oh well. I'll have that.

It surprises me that there are only 2 Huracans in your race! So not the meta car for the race itself? Didn’t had any time to race except qualify until tonight so that’s why I’m surprised.

 

[05XR8]

It surprises me that there is only 2 Huracans in your race! So not the meta car for the race itself? Didn’t had any time to race except qualify until tonight so that’s why I’m surprised.

It's really not. The Genesis was quick. However, put that Megane is some fast hands and it's certainly the META. Nothing. not even a Bugatti in my last race, can touch it. I walked the "OyVey"ron from the last corner to the line.

 

[Illum_Concept]

@tariklehaine I'm not sure if you know it, but I'm in a furious battle with you for race B qualifying time. I keep shaving mine down bit by bit, but can't catch you. Great lap!

Had some good races on DTG last night too. Qualy of 1:37.950 good enough for top 4 starts in a low SR room (I'm still struggling to repair the SR damage from LeMans), but no pole positions . Mostly good battles and podium finishes, one victory, and one catastrophy which wiped out the entire evenings good work from a DR/SR perspective. Standard.

 

[El_Beardo]

Had a quick qualifying session at Monza before I left for work. Best lap, 1:47.771. 0.001 seconds off my current qualifying time.

Optimal was 47.069. I might skip race B tonight, and try and break 47.500, instead.

Whether I'll race Monza tonight is another matter. I'm enjoying the DR boosts. But SR is far more important to me.

 

[Veinz]

Best time at Monza for me is a 47.2 with the GTR on tuesday. I practiced for like an hour and a half with the Mustang yesterday and I could not beat that time. The Mustang feels easier to use, but I'm not sure what it's like in the race with fuel and tire wear.

Not feeling race a or b, so I'll probably stay away from those for the rest of the week.

 

[Melbourne Park]

I have no clue what you're talking about. Are you on acid? Maybe you're doing that thing I like to do, where I send random messages to people I don't know in the pre-race that has nothing to do with anything. I told one guy "My mom made soup. Where were you?" Messes with their heads.

My eyes must have acid in them I guess!

The quote I mean't to talk about was this one:

Look who's back in the races. P1

I mistakenly used your quote .... .

05XR8, or Spacedustdaddy, who races in the Asian circuit, mentioned his race (coming third and being held up by an Audi TT who came second, namely "Sunfungusdave"). I said that Sunfungus Dave was a good driver and a good defender - who had managed to defend against 05XR8 in the race he mentioned.

My main interest though was MiorHafiz - who 05XR8 said is was back ... I started driving again in September or so ... and I don't know the driver ... I just wondered why SpacedustDaddy mentioned him, that's all. I have seen 05XR8 a couple of times only, but I think if we do the same races we tend to race the same people. So I am curious about that guy. I guess I'll look him/her up on Kudos.

Spacedust you're making a heap of DR this week ... wish I could race, daaarrnnn it.

 

[tariklehaine]

@tariklehaine I'm not sure if you know it, but I'm in a furious battle with you for race B qualifying time. I keep shaving mine down bit by bit, but can't catch you. Great lap!

Had some good races on DTG last night too. Qualy of 1:37.950 good enough for top 4 starts in a low SR room (I'm still struggling to repair the SR damage from LeMans), but no pole positions . Mostly good battles and podium finishes, one victory, and one catastrophy which wiped out the entire evenings good work from a DR/SR perspective. Standard.

Haha, tbh I am able to race this evening again so I will take a look at the Qboard. But thanks man I still think I can polish my Q on race B especially on the chicane and last turn. Tonight will be my chance and will be racing allot on race B so maybe we will meet each other!

 

[BjoBosUndies]

My eyes must have acid in them I guess!

The quote I mean't to talk about was this one:


05XR8, or Spacedustdaddy, who races in the Asian circuit, mentioned his race (coming third and being held up by an Audi TT who came second, namely "Sunfungusdave"). I said that Sunfungus Dave was a good driver and a good defender - who had managed to defend against 05XR8 in the race he mentioned.

My main interest though was MiorHafiz - who 05XR8 said is was back ... I started driving again in September or so ... and I don't know the driver ... I just wondered why SpacedustDaddy mentioned him, that's all. I have seen 05XR8 a couple of times only, but I think if we do the same races we tend to race the same people. So I am curious about that guy. I guess I'll look him/her up on Kudos.

Sunfungus is a good bloke and racer just takes some time to get on his good side. He’s the eye for an eye type.

 

[ASH32]

Best time at Monza for me is a 47.2 with the GTR on tuesday. I practiced for like an hour and a half with the Mustang yesterday and I could not beat that time. The Mustang feels easier to use, but I'm not sure what it's like in the race with fuel and tire wear.

Not feeling race a or b, so I'll probably stay away from those for the rest of the week.

No where near as good as the GT-R, it uses a lot more fuel losing you too much time in the pits. Don't think its any better on tyres either, not worth using over the GT-R.

Oh and I think the GT-R is slightly easier to use and the Mustang ever so slightly quicker but it's very debatable, the margin is so small, well before add in the fuel use anyway.

But anyway none of that matters much when this happens.



Of course because I'm then in mid pack I spent half the race avoiding dive bombs and getting pushed about by slower drivers. Only the last three laps did I have space but the gap was too big by then and even though I ran three fast laps (including the fastest of the race) I could still only finish 4th around 7.5 seconds back.

 

[Veinz]

Oh and I think the GT-R is slightly easier to use and the Mustang ever so slightly quicker but it's very debatable, the margin is so small, well before add in the fuel use anyway.

Im unsure about the GTR, I thought it felt really loose but I might have been going too far down with the gears in some corners.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

No time to race this morning, so I squeezed in two more races last night hoping the 10 and 10:30 pm races would be clean ish. Not.

10pm third attempt in the Porsche, Another chaotic mess. I stayed behind at first to watch the cones flying around but quickly got into traffic from all the cars flying off and serving penalties. I managed to avoid it all until I was chasing a GT-R. We were approaching T1 when a car came out of the pit. That car didn't not pay attention and lazily drifted over the line in our path. The GT-R first tries to go more to the left edge in my path then swerves right, the car coming from the pit keeps moving left into my path now so I have to quickly move right not to rear end him. All the movement is not good right at the brake marker, and there is some small contact between me and the GT-R while trying to avoid the car coming from the pit. The GT-R goes slightly wide at T1, recovers, yet 3 sec penalty for me while the GT-R is still ahead. The car coming from the pit takes advantage and cuts me off at corner exit.

Sigh, don't cross the effing pit line into traffic, what's so hard to understand about that. It didn't end there. After serving the 3 sec penalty in that terrible spot to Ascari, I hug the left edge to let traffic pass. A car driving in the middle goes past, then another GT-R comes flying to overtake me and the car in the middle and decides to attempt to overtake through me. I guess I unghosted right in front of him, got punted off into a spin and end up with another 3 sec penalty Great job PD!

At the end it seems I'm racing a sensible driver. He comes on my inside for Lesmo1, annoying move but valid, we go side by side through Lesmo1 without a problem. My faith is restored. I'm slightly ahead into Lesmo2 and his car bumps me off at corner exit, into the sand, no penalty for him, I lose more spots I called him out after the race, but was really more pissed at the one that crossed the pit line and started the whole mess sending me back into the chaotic backfield. On review it might have been a lag spike plus GTs silly physics that spoiled our side by side Lesmo2. It was a clear hit on my side, yet since he didn't get a penalty, might not have happened on his client. We both had 4 bars at that time but that doesn't mean anything.

-17 SR for that race, from 99 to 82 sigh.

Next race I take the ultimate defense approach for dirty Monza, no stop.

FM2 with short shifting until the last 2 laps. 1:55 laps at first, 1:53 for the last couple laps. The medium tires lasted all race no problem. +11 SR for a clean race. I though it would be more, but 93 is good enough to be back in the top destruction derby rooms tonight.

2 necessary improvements for Monza, penalty for crossing the pit exit line and move the penalty zone to after Ascari.

 

[ASH32]

Im unsure about the GTR, I thought it felt really loose but I might have been going too far down with the gears in some corners.

Yes it was too loose in race at +5 but I switched to +3 before the last race and that was much better and quicker too. If you use the Mustang you are going to have to short shift a lot just to match a normal shifting GT-R for fuel and if they short shift too you've got no chance and will lose seconds in the pits. Probably best to practice with the GT-R until you get used to it, unless there is another quick car around that isn't as bad as the Mustang is with fuel.

 

[TurboTacho]

Did a few Race C today, not a very good one.

Race 1 - Grid P11 Race P11: Chaotic start at the front, got thrown off the chicane and pretty much kept my pulse in check. But the next couple of laps were just carnage, lots of hitting and scratching among the midfield. After a slow pitstop, I ended up running as low as 17th, but eventually made my way up to 11th in the final 4 laps. It's a little sad situation since the race was just unclean with 'fake' S players.

Race 2 - Grid P10 Race P7: Last minute call to try the Hard tyres for the whole race. Good battle with the 6th place until a slide made my car go stale. Respect that and moved ahead, the degradation wasn't bad until the final stint in which I'm lapping 2-3 seconds slower than everyone while running a strong position. The Parabolica was a notable approach to the flag, when I got a player trying to shunt me off the track while we're dragging through the straight. Earned him a 2-second post-race penalty which he deserved for scratching me off the track.

The Ford GT is too thirsty around the track, barely 5 laps per tank. Looks like I've got to look for a new car tomorrow...

 

[Redsea666]

Had a couple good runs last night at Monza after getting disconnected (Comcast + wind + my neighborhood's dying infrastructure) from the qualifying of the Manufacturer's Cup. It was a shame because I was really looking forward to doing the Sweeper at Big Willow flat out in Gr4. Oh well.....

Still a productive evening.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Was planning on doing some early race b since I'm leaving for 2 days later tonight but i got distracted lol.

At least im definitely going to be faster now

 

[sturk0167]

Everytime I'm on the front straightaway at DTG, I can't help but looking up at those mountains. They're really cool looking. Great job by the designers. I wish it was an open world, like GTA 5, so I can take my Raptor up there.

@Stencedaddy I like that helmet. 👍

 

[El_Beardo]

2 necessary improvements for Monza, penalty for crossing the pit exit line and move the penalty zone to after Ascari.

A third may be to start race just before Parabolica/coming out of Ascari. It may cut down on T1 incidents, slightly.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Everytime I'm on the front straightaway at DTG, I can't help but looking up at those mountains. They're really cool looking. Great job by the designers. I wish it was an open world, like GTA 5, so I can take my Raptor up there.

@Stencedaddy I like that helmet. 👍

its the best. Taz is my guy, wish i made it myself. One time when i was trying to drift an f1 car in a drift lobby the host said he was gonna kick me but let me stay because my helmet was awesome lol. told me it looked like taz was driving the car.

 

[watto79]

So me and Race B are still not friends. It seems like I'll make one small mistake and bam I'll finish last or close to last every time.

While I have had a bad Race C (got spun lap 1 turn 1, fought back to 7th then got spun in turn 1 again ) I'm still having loads of fun with it. Below was a fun first two chicanes. Yes the dirty turn 1 dive bomber was yours truly Luckily I didn't murder anyone. The second chicane I made sure I was on the brakes early. The scattering of cones and barriers across the front of my car made me chuckle. Went on to finish 2nd 👍

Everytime I'm on the front straightaway at DTG, I can't help but looking up at those mountains. They're really cool looking. Great job by the designers. I wish it was an open world, like GTA 5, so I can take my Raptor up there.

@Stencedaddy I like that helmet. 👍

Completely agree. Maybe that's why I'm so bad there. Spending too much time admiring the scenery rather than the brake points.

 

[sturk0167]

Although, if was an open world, I'd never get any actual racing done. Me and Pigems would be off-road the whole time, making videos of our jumps.

 

[Loverson]

Never picking the Huracan ever in a race in C.
Miserable race.
I can't take kerbs with the car and having traffic is already stressful. Man what an absolute mistake retrying to race C and just when i finally returned to 20k DR

 

[Sven Jurgens]

A third may be to start race just before Parabolica/coming out of Ascari. It may cut down on T1 incidents, slightly.

Tough call. N24 has that approach to start further back and it just moves the problem to the corners before the straight. Also the longer the run up, the more time for cars to all draft up to each other. Spreading out the field will help a bit.

PD needs to take the chance of success away for dive bombs in T1. Reset backwards if you don't brake on time. Overshoot the corner, reset. Hit a car from behind, reset. The penalty system can't assign blame correctly and without a reset hit and runs will continue to happen. (And often a 3 sec penalty is worth punting through the crowd in T1) Also respawning cars in the middle of the chicane only creates more problems. Before or after (like it was) not in the trickiest part of the corner

It's always a mess that starts with a single collision up front. Car gets bumped wide, recklessly re-enters the track causing a secondary collision that turns into a pile-up in the chicane while the game throws more ghosts into the mix to add to the confusion. My best strategy for surviving T1 (starting at the back) is to lift of the gas at the 300 marker, slow down gradually and wait for everyone to recover. Don't pass any ghosts or resets as the same scenario will repeat at the second chicane, lift off again at the 300 marker, and gently close in on the last cars to still pick up a couple positions from resets and cars in the sand at the second chicane. Lesmo1 and 2 are usually fine, then hold your breath as the penalty zone bunches everyone up again with ghosted and slowed traffic. Lift off early for Ascari, tap the brakes to signal the cars behind and try to follow smoothly behind the wobbly Macs in front. After Ascari the race can begin.