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NevilleNobody
Ok you guys ha e the map but do you know the story behind the names? Best ones are conrod and forests, any takers? No aussies allowed.
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I thought Hell's was the best one cos it aint what you would think
 
Norrin Radd
Mine is close but not exactly the same, if I meet someone from here I usually don't realise unless they say. But even doing the same races as people I know are about the same rating doesn't mean you'll be in the same game.
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I think I saw you last week at Leguna but couldn't be sure. I'm the same though, I wouldn't realise unless they said.
 
Aaaannnddd the standard of racing has deteriorated rapidly. I’ve been brake checked at skyline, had people trying to out brake me through the esses??? and so much weaving on the straights. I don’t know why it takes until Thursday but it’s almost inevitable. One thing I have noticed is that the number of terrible drivers with high grid spots is increasing. If I’m 2 seconds a lap faster than someone in race, how on earth do they have a qualifying time better than mine?

It’s all compounded by the ridiculousness of getting a 4s penalty for tapping someone who’s just hit a wall and is on their way to hit the other wall leaving you nowhere to go.

I do think I’ve settled on the Vantage though. The Corvette and Mustang are both great, but I just feel at home in the Aston. It is so precise.
 
Norrin Radd
I thought Hell's was the best one cos it aint what you would think
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We used to have a section of 2 lane highway called "dead mans curve" for obvious reasons... Take it too fast in the fog and you ended up going over a cliff. It's long gone with a replacement 4 lane highway.
 
Did a Race B and two Race C’s last night, resulting in my SR dropping to 71. Terrific.

In Race C, what didn’t help was getting both two second penalties and SR downs combined for “ignoring track limits”. Apparently, the game takes extreme offense to not driving through the pit entry perfectly at Mt. Panorama. Guess I need to be more careful. Drove the McLaren F1 and Corvette so far.
 
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C_Raccoon23
Did a Race B and two Race C’s last night, resulting in my SR dropping to 71. Terrific.

In Race C, what didn’t help was getting both two second penalties and SR downs combined for “ignoring track limits”. Apparently, the game takes extreme offense to not driving through the pit entry perfectly at Mt. Panorama. Guess I need to be more careful. Drove the McLaren F1 and Corvette so far.
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I am in S/B rooms right now (yes back to S just 6 races after a reset, what a stupid system) and picked up a couple wins as I am paired with low B drivers (I am a higher B/low A on pace). ANyways there is usually a couple guys that make it interesting in each race.

Race 1, one guy was faster but I had him licked on strategy, came in for second stop and damn well failed on the in road, cue 1.5 sec penalty and I lost 1st place on the 2nd last lap after being all set to appear in front of him. Seriously annoyed as I ran hard laps on fresh softs to get in that position.

Race 2, I catch 1st on pace, then i make a small error and I am back in 3rd. I re-catch them and I am 1st again, I pit, come out and I am 2 stopping so in a hurry. I trip over a guy in the chase, i go into outer space ...... then he pits. I finish 4th 4 seconds off first when i lost like 10 seconds in the sand. Dang it.

Mountain punishes you for stupid.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I've just done another race from the back, you can add the pit entry to that list 👍.
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What does the pit entry overtake look like when done properly? I have had two attempts made on me this week that didn’t work out for the overtaker.

In the first, I immediately went to the entry while the driver ahead stayed on track and then made a hard left onto the lane at the 100m board. I was already under full braking at that point and booted them off for a 2 second penalty and they reset and missed their stop.

In the second, we both went to the entry, but the car behind tried to outbrake me and go two wide on the outside through the curves. They side swiped me and got a two second penalty as they hit the wall. I made the entry with no penalty.

Your Forrest’s Elbow overtake video is cool. Do you have one of this move you mentioned?
 
slthree
Qualifying 4th is an accomplishment in itself. Podium finish is fantastic.

I would be tempted to retire from gaming if I ever achieved a podium spot.

Much Respect
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It was a slow lobby, it looks better than it is. My qualy time is still far short of my K speed goal. (My alt's also about 5k lower DR than my main acct.) But yeah, it was huge accomplishment for me. Just keeping on track with only minor wall scrapes here and there is a big deal. Next time we do Bathurst, my goal will be to get some actual speed into the thing.
 
Anyone else lost for pace on the opening lap or two? I don't know if it is cold tyres or lag or whatever but man, I just get left for dead. I was racing groundfish last night, right up his rear end into griffins then I was bouncing around for a lap and a half, just NO GRIP, like anywhere. When I pit for a fresh set of softs I am fine, which is weird.

Definitely feel the Jag is the sleeper at Bathurst, not a gun on the straights but good enough and lovely everywhere else. Really nice car to drive.
 
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D_Dragline
Aaaannnddd the standard of racing has deteriorated rapidly. I’ve been brake checked at skyline, had people trying to out brake me through the esses??? and so much weaving on the straights. I don’t know why it takes until Thursday but it’s almost inevitable. One thing I have noticed is that the number of terrible drivers with high grid spots is increasing. If I’m 2 seconds a lap faster than someone in race, how on earth do they have a qualifying time better than mine?

It’s all compounded by the ridiculousness of getting a 4s penalty for tapping someone who’s just hit a wall and is on their way to hit the other wall leaving you nowhere to go.

I do think I’ve settled on the Vantage though. The Corvette and Mustang are both great, but I just feel at home in the Aston. It is so precise.
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I wouldnt mind a by race one shot qualifying tbh, would get rid of some of these one lap wonders that can't race.
 
NevilleNobody
I am in S/B rooms right now (yes back to S just 6 races after a reset, what a stupid system) and picked up a couple wins as I am paired with low B drivers (I am a higher B/low A on pace). ANyways there is usually a couple guys that make it interesting in each race.

Race 1, one guy was faster but I had him licked on strategy, came in for second stop and damn well failed on the in road, cue 1.5 sec penalty and I lost 1st place on the 2nd last lap after being all set to appear in front of him. Seriously annoyed as I ran hard laps on fresh softs to get in that position.

Race 2, I catch 1st on pace, then i make a small error and I am back in 3rd. I re-catch them and I am 1st again, I pit, come out and I am 2 stopping so in a hurry. I trip over a guy in the chase, i go into outer space ...... then he pits. I finish 4th 4 seconds off first when i lost like 10 seconds in the sand. Dang it.

Mountain punishes you for stupid.
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raced 1 with you last night I started on pole you 2nd. I made small error I think at chase (terrible at remembering the names different areas of the track) any way went off got reset back on track battled back up for a 2nd place finish. wish I did not make that error we would have had a good race
 
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jad866
raced 1 with you last night I started on pole you 2nd. I made small error I think at chase (terrible at remembering the names different areas of the track) any way went off got reset back on track battled back up for a 2nd place finish. wish I did not make that error we would have had a good race
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Really? What were you driving? You in the Jag? In one race I passed someone, well thought I did, there was the absolute faintest of touched on my rear panel, did not feel it but saw the SR down sign, i look back and he was gone. Was that you?
 
ZiggyS80
What does the pit entry overtake look like when done properly? I have had two attempts made on me this week that didn’t work out for the overtaker.
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Don't know about proper, but I did it when a guy entered really late, he ghosted and I just drove through him.
 
If no one is behind me I enter from waaaaaaaaay over on the right side of the track to take a racing line in. Most common error is to miss the right kerb and lose 1.5 seconds because the angle of entry wants to push you tot he right.

To make you all feel better, former F1 driver and 6 time Bathurst winner Larry Perkins, lost a sure win in the 2001 race because he messed up the pit entry. It was this error that made him decide to retire shortly after.

 
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NevilleNobody
Really? What were you driving? You in the Jag? In one race I passed someone, well thought I did, there was the absolute faintest of touched on my rear panel, did not feel it but saw the SR down sign, i look back and he was gone. Was that you?
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yep just cut it it a little close there i tried to save but got in the grass and that was it...
 
jad866
yep just cut it it a little close there i tried to save but got in the grass and that was it...
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I checked the video for that, it was a 50/50 one, I think we both thought we were clear as I was like, wtf is the SR down for??? Then, what, where is he?
 
ZiggyS80
What does the pit entry overtake look like when done properly? I have had two attempts made on me this week that didn’t work out for the overtaker.

In the first, I immediately went to the entry while the driver ahead stayed on track and then made a hard left onto the lane at the 100m board. I was already under full braking at that point and booted them off for a 2 second penalty and they reset and missed their stop.

In the second, we both went to the entry, but the car behind tried to outbrake me and go two wide on the outside through the curves. They side swiped me and got a two second penalty as they hit the wall. I made the entry with no penalty.

Your Forrest’s Elbow overtake video is cool. Do you have one of this move you mentioned?
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Mine doesn't sound anywhere near as fun as the attempts on you. The car I passed hit the brakes as soon as I turned towards the pitlane - at about 150m - so it was quite boring (if you're still interesting its at 0:15 in this video). It does look like it's wide enough to get 2 cars side by side up to where the grass starts but anybody who pulls it off is going to have a lot of outtakes.
 
NevilleNobody
I checked the video for that, it was a 50/50 one, I think we both thought we were clear as I was like, wtf is the SR down for??? Then, what, where is he?
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LOL would have been a fun but ohh well I am sure we will race again.

I was in the next race and Nosh was in that one with me and I had a great race led wire to wire no mistakes go figure..
 
D_Dragline
. If I’m 2 seconds a lap faster than someone in race, how on earth do they have a qualifying time better than mine?
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The later in the week it gets the better q time you need. People hit those one off laps who don’t maybe have the racepace. It’s problematic but you just gotta hit practice hard and get that q lap.

NevilleNobody
I was racing groundfish last night, right up his rear end into griffins then I was bouncing around for a lap and a half, just NO GRIP, like anywhere. When I pit for a fresh set of softs I am fine, which is weird.
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I raced a guy last night. I was in the Perrier Mustang he was DBR9.
He pulled a couple low 2:01 in race.
He got penalized though once for a wall hit, and twice when he tried to overtake me.
He two stopped to my one.
He was much faster, but just got bad luck. My point of bringing it up was I watched his in car replay...Guy was smooooooooth. To relate to the tire topic If you go out and minimize sliding on softs for a couple turns, if you can be smoooooth enough you build up some INSANE grip conversely if you overdrive the car the tires get mushy and understeer. Further in draft in some of these power cars there’s a very very fine line on steering angle and grip across the mountaintop it’s very very easy to understeer in draft...You really gotta be able to manage that aspect...
Really over the mountaintop there’s very little steering. It’s set turns you set the car into the arc and slight lift to tighten the arc. Sometimes if you understeer you gotta trust that STRAIGHTENING the wheels will get you turning tighter.
Jerking the steering, too much steering angle equals doomsday over the mountain,
 
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Groundfish
I raced a guy last night. I was in the Perrier Mustang he was DBR9.
He pulled a couple low 2:01 in race.
He got penalized though once for a wall hit, and twice when he tried to overtake me.
He two stopped to my one.
He was much faster, but just got bad luck. My point of bringing it up was I watched his in car replay...Guy was smooooooooth. To relate to the tire topic If you go out and minimize sliding on softs for a couple turns, if you can be smoooooth enough you build up some INSANE grip conversely if you overdrive the car the tires get mushy and understeer. Further in draft in some of these power cars there’s a very very fine line on steering angle and grip across the mountaintop it’s very very easy to understeer in draft...You really gotta be able to manage that aspect...
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agree 100% very tough to follow thru the mountain section it took me several races to learn to give some space thru 3 or 4 left handers before esses. doing that i was able to keep up better speed nail the last left before the run off the mountain and draft up and sometimes past at the end of the straight
 
NSP525
I wouldnt mind a by race one shot qualifying tbh, would get rid of some of these one lap wonders that can't race.
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Or even have a time/race limit on quali. So it counts for 5 races then you need a new one. I don't tend to put in more once I get to within my K speed.
 
Norrin Radd
Or even have a time/race limit on quali. So it counts for 5 races then you need a new one. I don't tend to put in more once I get to within my K speed.
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nah that is clunky. Only way a limit would work is to have an option to practice and then a separate button for qualy with a limit of 10 laps for the week.
 
NevilleNobody
nah that is clunky. Only way a limit would work is to have an option to practice and then a separate button for qualy with a limit of 10 laps for the week.
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The problem with that is I improve over the week, I'm over 2 secs faster than I was to start and that's race pace too. So with a strict limit I would have to start from the back at the beginning of the week to save my Q laps for when I felt I was fast enough. Yes any system will have problems for some, don't know what would be best.
 
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