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sturk0167
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I will always upvote The Goonies!
 
Just tried my first A race of the week from the back. My best Q time on my other account was way faster than the pole-sitter, so I figured I should at least be able to get an easy podium finish..... Uh, no. :ouch:
Blasted off the track on lap 1, and on lap 2. Finished 10th. :dunce:
It always take me a while to forget about my Q lines when I start entering the races. :lol:
 
challenger001
Penalties are back in force, at least in Race B.
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I think they may have update the SR system ninja style. This morning Race C, half the field had red SR me included! I rear bump a car not and got 1sec and also got 2-3 pens for track limit and ended up SR.87

RacingGrandpa
I am still having great races, and a lot better than before they changed the penalty system last time.
I do mostly C, maybe that's why it's mostly clean.
There's a dirty or borderline dirty driver in most races, but usually you can get away from them and then the racing is good
The trick is to not stoop to their level, if you do the whole race will be a slugfest.
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Exactly, mistake happens and I will not retaliate at every contact. At least, if I finish a race angry it's because of someone and not PD with a undeserved penalty!
 
crusselz
Hadn't noticed any changes. Racing has been clean, and very competitive in the lobbies I've been matched in. Just the annoying curb glitch.



To add insult to injury. I also got a .5s penalty for track limits.
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Is that a glitch? I've hit it a time or two and just thought it was my mistake... I feel better if it's just a glitch! I struggle enough at that track...
 
BigSarj
I'm not that good but my best times in quali have been with the C7 and the Vantage. 1:29.7xx (so far), I believe. I can't remember which one put that time up but they were both fast for me.

I have my brake balance at +2 on the Vantage. I think I will move it to 0 and try again.
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Why +2 on this FR car? I find it rotates plenty...too much at times. I have mine at -2 to prevent some oversteer in a couple of corners (mostly turn 2). I notice one of the you tubers had +2 as well.. I usually only go into the + BB in the FF cars.

Is it likely that my skill level (I need smoother inputs) is preventing me from getting the most out of the Vantage at an optimum setting of +2?
 
newb1017
Why +2 on this FR car? I find it rotates plenty...too much at times. I have mine at -2 to prevent some oversteer in a couple of corners (mostly turn 2). I notice one of the you tubers had +2 as well.. I usually only go into the + BB in the FF cars.

Is it likely that my skill level (I need smoother inputs) is preventing me from getting the most out of the Vantage at an optimum setting of +2?
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On the Vantage at RBR I put mine at -1 or -2. Same with the Vette. I like mine there for the same reasons you mentioned with oversteer.
 
newb1017
Why +2 on this FR car? I find it rotates plenty...too much at times. I have mine at -2 to prevent some oversteer in a couple of corners (mostly turn 2). I notice one of the you tubers had +2 as well.. I usually only go into the + BB in the FF cars.

Is it likely that my skill level (I need smoother inputs) is preventing me from getting the most out of the Vantage at an optimum setting of +2?
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just different driving styles that's all. One BB setting might work for some people and not work well for others. In races where tire wear is a factor, it's good to learn to drive with positive BB on FR cars. Typically if the BB is too far to the rear for your driving style, you can work on lifting off the brake more smoothly. The lift-off oversteer occurs when you have too much steering input as you release the brakes. So if you work on releasing the brake more gently, AND modulating your steering input differently, you should be able to work it out and handle the more positive BB. If you're only racing in races with no tire wear....then who cares, just use whatever setting suits you best.
 
Going through my first funk on this game over the past few weeks, pace and consistency not quite there and neither is my concentration. Thought i'd do spa to avoid potential chaos at RBR. Grabbed the mazda vision as i did a few months back and qualified within a tenth of that race but it felt sloppy. In the race, last time i remember gaining spots by pounding out consistent laps as folks ran each other off the road or made errors etc, this time i made an average of a solid mistake per lap. Even a half second penalty is heavy as it's on kemmel, so i finished where i started which was discouraging.

Half heartedly tried RBR and qualy was pretty average, 29.7, i can do better but just wasn't feelin git. Gained 6 spots but in clear air was not gaining on pace alone.

Something is amiss.
 
I'm using the Aston Martin Vantage GT3 with a TCS of 1 and BB of -5, but I cannot manage a better time than 1:29.683 - how are so many players getting below 1:29, both with the Vantage and seemingly a variety of other cars? I'm a bit frustrated because I'm trying not to incur any penalties while qualifying, but I tried entering an actual race and I started in last! (Granted, I moved up a few positions - due to a combination of one person spinning out, and a few others incurring notable penalties for ramming me off at the second turn after the first checkpoint - but still.) Even doing half a second better would be a great improvement for me, and I don't think it's the choice of car that's at fault.

I even beat the suggested time listed on my KudosPrime profile, so I'm almost tempted to believe that everyone faster than me is using some sort of exploit with the track, or something. I barely managed to get the time I did, so I cannot see how I can improve even further - though I do wonder if it has something to do with that hairpin that's right after the first checkpoint. I do usually downshift to first gear through there, but I wonder if staying in 2nd would be better, if only for the sake of traction.
 
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MIE1992
I'm using the Aston Martin Vantage GT3 with a TCS of 1 and BB of -5, but I cannot manage a better time than 1:29.683 - how are so many players getting below 1:29, both with the Vantage and seemingly a variety of other cars? I'm a bit frustrated because I'm trying not to incur any penalties while qualifying, but I tried entering an actual race and I started in last! (Granted, I moved up a few positions - due to a combination of one person spinning out, and a few others incurring notable penalties for ramming me off at the second turn after the first checkpoint - but still.) Even doing half a second better would be a great improvement for me, and I don't think it's the choice of car that's at fault. I even beat the suggested time listed on my KudosPrime profile.
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Your brake balance is way too far forward, you could try with brake bias 0 or +1 instead.
 
Yuji Ide
Your brake balance is way too far forward, you could try with brake bias 0 or +1 instead.
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Good to know, I'll experiment a bit with that sort of BB. But I thought that when a car is FR and tire wear isn't enabled, you'd want something more forwards - and especially for turns that come after large braking zones like that first turn and the hairpin after the first checkpoint. Is your suggested BB because of the car, or the track? Or perhaps both?
 
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MIE1992
Good to know, I'll experiment a bit with that sort of BB. But I thought that when a car is FR and tire wear isn't enabled, you'd want something more forwards - and especially for turns that come after large braking zones like that first turn and the hairpin after the first checkpoint. Is your suggested BB because of the car, or the track? Or perhaps both?
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Yes, but the Aston is quite stable. You can get away with a more neutral BB with it.
I would say, use -5 brake balance only with very twitchy cars, like the Audi R8 or the Huracan, more stable cars understeer like hell with a BB -5.
 
MIE1992
Good to know, I'll experiment a bit with that sort of BB. But I thought that when a car is FR and tire wear isn't enabled, you'd want something more forwards - and especially for turns that come after large braking zones like that first turn and the hairpin after the first checkpoint. Is your suggested BB because of the car, or the track? Or perhaps both?
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refer to my previous comment about BB....2nd to last entry on the previous page of this thread. Typically, people like positive BB for FR cars to provide more rotation under braking. Negative BB is usually used on MR cars to prevent excessive oversteer under braking/turn-in. If you feel like you need negative BB in an FR car to prevent the oversteer, then try releasing the brakes more gradually and making sure the wheel has less rotation on it before releasing the brakes. The lift-off oversteer in FR cars is caused by a combination of lifting off of the brakes all at once while your wheel is turned too much. Most of your front grip is being used for braking initially, but as soon as you begin to release the brakes that grip is transferred to being used for turning, so it's too much turn-in all at once while the weight has already shifted to the outside wheels.
 
Stephan
I just wanna say....I'm not usually the type of dude who would take it personally against others or at least do some trash talking/taunting post races but this dude seems to be wanting to bring out my very aggressive side/R4M side because of this guy's taunting. Oh and also in the gif you're seeing, he squeezed me on the last lap and had the audacity of doing a taunt. I just replied with that's all I needed.

I wasn't able to be queued with that dude again but the next time I get queued with that minions dude, I'll probably won't hesitate to go very aggressive at him.

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I've had lots of racing with him and never seen anything I was thinking was dirty, that just looks a bit more like he would have thought he left room. He has always been pretty fair with me, even at the Lago Maggiore race A a while ago where he had lots of chances to rub me off or nuke me.
Might pay to give him the benefit of the doubt unless you get a second run in. Just my thoughts. It wasnt like he ran you wide or off earlier when there were a lot of easy chances to do so.
 
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Network down ? 22.30 hrs uk time.
Got a message saying update primary account then it won't let me log on.
Bummer because I managed a good win at race C earlier, was hoping to replicate it, ha.
Audi 16 4M 6S. Had plenty of 2nd places with 7S 3M but couldn't quite pull off the win. 👍
 

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Sean YZF
Network down ? 22.30 hrs uk time.
Got a message saying update primary account then it won't let me log on.
Bummer because I managed a good win at race C earlier, was hoping to replicate it, ha.
Audi 16 4M 6S. Had plenty of 2nd places with 7S 3M but couldn't quite pull off the win. 👍
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Down in NA, as well. Something binned real hard, it looks like.
 
Stephan
I just wanna say....I'm not usually the type of dude who would take it personally against others or at least do some trash talking/taunting post races but this dude seems to be wanting to bring out my very aggressive side/R4M side because of this guy's taunting. Oh and also in the gif you're seeing, he squeezed me on the last lap and had the audacity of doing a taunt. I just replied with that's all I needed.

I wasn't able to be queued with that dude again but the next time I get queued with that dude, I'll probably won't hesitate to go very aggressive at him.

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I can confirm the behavior of the Number 1 finisher. Classic door banger. Pull alongside and he tried to aggressively push me off. I called him out on it. He said "Sorry" but it felt intentional. Immature is how I would describe him.

I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as he is fast and has a cool ID and some of my prior experience was quite good. But, he is a door banger in the end.

And now I am trying to remember if I have the right guy... it was at Fuji about two or three months ago.
 
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For Race C/Group-1/Spa, I am using the Audi R18 '16.

What are the recommendations for the BB? I am using BB-0 as I do not know which way to go.

In race trim I used the softs for 5 laps and there is a little more wear on the fronts but not by much. That suggests that I could move it the the back by a bit (+).

It is listed as an MR car and that suggests that I should/could move it forward (-) but I expect front tire wear to worsen.

As a hybrid it appears this this is really an AWD, in real life, as the battery is powering that front tires probably driving more wear.
https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/anatomy-of-a-le-mans-prototype-racer

Any thoughts?
 
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Rexracer702
<...snip...> It's amazing what a good drive out of a corner will do to your laptime. I saw .7 up after the first hairpin once, when my previous best didn't seem that bad coming through there...a bit of slide, but .7 by the esses? crazy!<...snip...>
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For the La Source hairpin the curb acts like a shallow gully and provides great camber. Get as close to the wall as possible. Experiment with a slightly later apex leading to a better angle to get the car straightened and up to full acceleration.

This is one of the places where the Top 10 Ghost works perfectly. Since it is the first corner you can use the ghost as a measuring stick giving you immediate feedback on what is and is not working.
 
I managed Race B three times before the outage. All sorts of penalties going on. I could have had three wins but I guess they were my warm up races because I ended up near the back in each of them. It sucks having a DR down day when I was racing so well for the most part.

How long do you think it will take until SR S is full of better drivers? A day? A week?
 
Got a bit of mojo back tonight. Got my q time at rbr down to a 29.1, can still find a tenth or two I think but it is very much incremental.

So far I think I like the penalty system, not sure where the lines are so to speak but guys being a bit reckless were nabbed and those keeping it straight were not so thats a decent start no? 100pc felt guys were cleaner and no bombers in 5 races. Let's see how it plays out but so far so good.

Racing with the aston but the merc feels GLORIOUS, beat my aston time by a few thousandths but it feels so much more composed both under brakes and on the gas, not quite the same power but its beautiful to drive.

@MIE1992 we have a very similar DR, but rbr is my best track and I am half a second up on you. For reference, sector 1 I do 22.4 to 22.5s. Are you know that ballpark? It's not a long lap but 1 tenth at each critical exit gets you a 29 flat.

Try the merc, it is very easy to drive, less squirrly.
 
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I set a goal for myself to get a 1:29:XXX at RBR for race B this week.

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Pain...

All jokes aside, I’ll get it at some point this week. Also, what’s up with the Huracan? Is it that good at RBR? I think the entire top 10 in the Americas is that car. Yesterday there was a decent mix of cars if I remember correctly. I’ll stick with my old reliable the Vantage for now and see what happens.
 
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