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I mean the great thing about Seaside is overtaking oppurtunities, BUT if you don’t complete the move or start to try but don’t quite have it you gotta back out.
You can overtake on any corner there under the right conditions.
On NA below level A if you choose a power car, and prioritize exit speed, NEVER NEVER NEVER missing braking NEVER!
Always brake early enough to get exit then you’ll be A soon.
Even turn 1-brake too late to get tight around it and you can’t open up turn two for full throttle.

B players on NA are HORRIBLE at racing Seaside, they always miss brake points and compromise exit speed.

On those turns you MUST slow enough to hit apex perfectly then go full throttle at apex.
That’s where you get better times, trying to achieve maximum speed on the straights by getting those exits.
You only need worry about entry in Q if you want to get say within 2-2.5 of the best possible time.

In race it’s about staying in control staying calm never messing up exits.
Look above at me on video frustrated and battling.
Nev passed 4 cars just by not compromising exit COD and not battling.

I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo
 
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Groundfish
B players on NA are HORRIBLE at racing Seaside, they always miss brake points and compromise exit speed.

On those turns you MUST slow enough to hit apex perfectly then go full throttle at apex.
That’s where you get better times, trying to achieve maximum speed on the straights by getting those exits.
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Yes, yes and yes. I briefly gave thought to making a cut-up from this past week's alt get rammed, spun, t-boned and pit-maneuvered by B level racers not understanding that concept.
 
Some good racing here, thought i hung in there well given I simply was not fast enough to beat these guys. Groundfish is right, the last 2 laps Vs the GTR, that guy is plenty fast but he never lined me up properly and kept getting sucked into a half move, either commit or focus on exit so you can commit at the next big stop. You can see my defense tactics, they work for the most part but you gotta trust the beetle brakes vs the bigger cars.

On the Larini right, yeah a lot of folks bomb in through there so it's a guessing game, do i stay wide or defend? If i defend do i get punted? Likely. Cross fingers and hope.

I have huge issues scrubbing speed through the esses, beetle is slow anyways but i scrub way too much, costs me 3 to 5 tenths lap.


 
Is “random” supposed to work as some form of insult in the vein of “you’re a noname noob”? That’s where my deciphering attempts lead me. Had a Portuguese dude say that after he was unhappy with getting raced the way he was racing. :lol:
 
Groundfish
I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo
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The last corner is pure genius and T2/3 plays into this. You can attack or defend into the last turn, you can take a narrow or wider line and exit is VITAL so it opens opportunities up into T2/3 which is not too fast or to slow for racing.

There was a guy last night, faster than be a margin, took REALLY high and late line through the last corner. I can understand that for passing into T1/2 but he did it every lap. Stop watch says he may be right.
 
NAXEHT
Is “random” supposed to work as some form of insult in the vein of “you’re a noname noob”? That’s where my deciphering attempts lead me. Had a Portuguese dude say that after he was unhappy with getting raced the way he was racing. :lol:
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Hehe tbh certain guys, if they start getting mad-it means you’re doing right.
Tbh there’s problem players that don’t mess with me anymore just as I don’t mess with them anymore because we know we will take each other out.

NevilleNobody
There was a guy last night, faster than be a margin, took REALLY high and late line through the last corner. I can understand that for passing into T1/2 but he did it every lap. Stop watch says he may be right.
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On q final turn first lap I brake straight way down the left side to the end of the last curb then floor it.
On the last turn of a good q lap going for time just to the line I take it more like in race, much tighter.
I tend to get better times to the line taking the short route, but starting a lap I always go super deep then turn and floor it...
It’s a close call to the start finish, but faster overall to go super deep late apex maximum early throttle.
Really if you get the line right you can straight punch it AT apex at Seaside on many turns...
But, genius design, it’s SO hard to hit the lines perfectly

Edit to clarify the gibberish above on final turn of a lap I want best time on I take the final turn tightly.
Starting a q lap is opposite. Very deep maximum run over greater distance
Typically in gr3 and up I go for less distance covered-get rotation done and full throttle as early as possible versus
Maximum arc plus maximum speed carry. Imo that works best on touring cars that don’t accelerate fast, in racecars I’d rather practice tight inside then getting to guns (full throttle). Early.
Really my main focus is getting to full throttle on exit as soon as possible without running wide and having to lift...
This is why tcs is important, going a nanosecond early isn’t going to slide me or spin the tires only slow me.
Working with the tcs is how I find my own limit on maximum earliest full throttle, also the fastest rate at which to squeeze the pedal down.
Practicing tight lines and rotation serves well in race. In q maybe not but in race if you practice it
it pays big dividends in racecars.
Out in out in a huge arc applies less the more acceleration the car has imo
 
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RX8 Racer
Gr.1 at Autopolis next week? This should be fun.

If pit strategy is involved, hopefully people will actually brake for pit entry and not punt the guy ahead into the pit wall.
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That'll never happen. :lol:

After going through cleanly the last few times I've been to Seaside I've finally been claimed by the COD again. Finished 14th instead of maybe 8th. Sorta cancelled out my 13th to 5th at the Ring.
The Atenza is a very good choice. Started on FM2 until the Nord. Then to FM3 until Bergwerk. Back to FM2 until Stielstrekken. Back to 3 until just before the Dottinger. Could keep it on 2 until the Dottinger again where you could go 1. Crossed the line with 0.1 laps to spare. If you're behind someone on lap 2 you could go 3 for a bit to save a little more. All with short shifting of course.
 
Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to a player no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

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KosmoKazi
Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to a player no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

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I had some problems with that dude about a month ago. I'd still be happy to hit him when I see him. 👍
 
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Obviously, PD still has some work to do.
This was my first penalty of the week.
The white car caused a wreck, then moved into my path, in a 4 wheel skid.
At least one of two things should happen in that circumstance. Either his car should be ghosted, or he should get the penalty for the collision.
 
sturk0167
Here's some help for race A (strategy guide).
I'm gonna show you a clip, then give some insight. You'll see me entering the final turn in last place, which was on purpose.


As you can see, I was not only last, but a good 20-30 meters behind the next car. If you are right on someone's back bumper, and pull out to pass them, it's not gonna work, unless the move positions you behind another car that's further ahead. You need more space to create a good enough speed advantage.
Also, don't allow your front bumper to touch any other cars in the last turn. I had a couple of side bumps there, which didn't hurt me.
However, if I had bumped the back of any cars, I would have lost enough speed that there would have been no chance for me.

I've done the race six times now, and only seen 1 or 2 other people who understood the strategy. Everybody else just mixes it up and battles for position the whole time. :confused: :lol:
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Now watch GOTMAXPOWER replay and see the difference. One is a demolition derby at 245 mph and the other one is a parking lot moving at 245mph!
Well done
 
KosmoKazi
Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to Loopin Jupiter no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

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They just keep pulling out of the line thinking they will pull away when it a ticket to the back once you don't have a slipstream. Last corner is crazy and I have bump-drafted 2 guys to the win as I just couldn't move out as there was no room. Managed to get my win and 5 more pole starts so my time must be better than I thought.
KosmoKazi
Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to Loopin Jupiter no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

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I'm guessing a lot of them don't race as much as we do and don't understand how bump-drafting works, you leave the line only one way your going. I helped 2 guys to wins when I had nowhere in the run to the line and got a 3rd & 4th. Some crazy driving and they just can't start a second line but rather try barge back into the line.

I think I'm up 8 pole positions for the week so my time must be OK and I did get my win last race this evening and got my a.t-acc upto Dr-B as I was doing the daily mileage to see what car I would get. Need to get main acc up now.

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sturk0167
Obviously, PD still has some work to do.
This was my first penalty of the week.
The white car caused a wreck, then moved into my path, in a 4 wheel skid.
At least one of two things should happen in that circumstance. Either his car should be ghosted, or he should get the penalty for the collision.
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Pshaw.
You shoulda seen it comin, man. Plenty of time to back out of that.
I know it can be hard to hear coming from me, but I have to tell you the truth here.
That was a dirty move you pulled. Deserved a black flag.
 
Spent my time on Race C this week. First race I obviously pitted since there is not enough fuel for one lap! It really came to my surprise that people race without stopping. Now how to make the no-stop work, I went with the WRX my go to gr4, perfectly suited for the ring and had the chance to follow a A+ driver starting from the back for 2 race in a row. On the thrid, he wasn't there and I was on my own.

The "race" teaches a lot about the flow, go off throttle sooner and try to minimize your braking zone, keep a higher gear in turn, short shift A LOT and keeping a car in front of you.

Also tried the Scirroco which is way faster than the WRX, drop my QT by a good margin with it. Now at 8.44.8 Also pretty good in race. Seems to be one of the best car.
Seen a couple of Ferrari finishing well, it is the next car on my list. With its seven gear, I guess it will help on managing fuel.
 
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Mc_Yavel
Spent my time on Race C this week. First race I obviously pitted since there is not enough fuel for one lap! It really came to my surprise that people race without stopping. Now how to make the no-stop work, I went with the WRX my go to gr4, perfectly suited for the ring and had the chance to follow a A+ driver starting from the back for 2 race in a row. On the thrid, he wasn't there and I was on my own.

The "race" teaches a lot about the flow, go off throttle sooner and try to minimize your braking zone, keep a higher gear in turn, short shift A LOT and keeping a car in front of you.

Also tried the Scirroco which is way faster than the WRX, drop my QT by a good margin with it. Now at 8.44.8 Also pretty good in race. Seems to be one of the best car.
Seen a couple of Ferrari finishing well, it is the next car on my list. With its seven gear, I guess it will help on managing fuel.
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Nice and good advice.

I have not figured it out. I have been using my alt and trying some practice runs.

This is a very well written article.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ings-and-other-fuel-saving-techniques.369387/

It gives some good insights along with the hard data, such as, "lifting for 3 seconds provides the same value as going from F1->FM3".

I think I have been shortshifting too much and not doing enough lift&coast.
 
Even if I’m not religious I almost pray that no Spanish turn up in a daily when I race. Video upcoming soon. Got gang raped. Done with this ****.

Edit: TERRIBLE RACE.

 
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MidnightRun85
We really need a thread with the PD tracks with corner names on them, like normal circuit maps... 💡
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We did that months ago.

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Groundfish
I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo
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If we're going on a straight win count, Seaside is only my 2nd best track. But when you get it right, oh man, is it a fun ride. :D

KosmoKazi
@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

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PLEASE have saved that replay. I get the feeling that a donkey laugh will be had when we see the air you caught. :lol:
 
NoStopN
We did that months ago.


PLEASE have saved that replay. I get the feeling that a donkey laugh will be had when we see the air you caught. :lol:
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I'm afraid it's lost and thus far my biggest regret in playing the game. I was WAY up there... unfortunately I was so PO'd after the race that I forgot to save it... I wish it wasn't so.
 
Absolute chaos in Race B tonight. I did three races, and my SR went from 99 to 65! The penalty system was out in full force tonight. I feel that I deserved some penalties like running into the back of people when I could have avoided them. But, when a driver goes off in the Esses, rejoins, and they clip my front bumper, and I get a penalty. Ridiculous in my eyes. Same goes for the times I almost get run off the track, penalty. So, I’m done with Dragon Trail this week.

So, to repair my SR, I run some more Race A. Those seem safe from what I ran earlier in the week. Some jockeying for position in the first race I ran. I mistime the final pass and finish 2nd. Next race same thing except one driver is glued to my door approaching and going up the bridge. They fall in line for the turn. Everyone scrambles during and coming out of the turn. I smack the wall but still have momentum to keep up. Going into the final turn, drivers are colliding and have the P1 car set up to make a slingshot pass somehow. I make the move to the right, and they also go right trying to push me into the pit wall. Well, it’s coming up fast and I shove back to avoid hitting the wall. We start fighting and I perhaps go too far and put him in the other wall. I manage to win by .001. Super dirty win, but I didn’t want to lose an opportunity when I feel had the upper hand. I’ve uploaded the replay just search my PSN name. They gave me a ‘gg’ in the post-race chat, so they weren’t upset, I guess.

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