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I want to start doing the C races but what's a typical equation for determining fuel mixture and pit stops? I'm sure it depends on the course and the car but is there general rule of thumb that can be initially applied as a starting point?

I'm more of a consistent clean lap driver than a hot lap driver so I'm hoping I'm better off in the mini endurance races.
 
I've run a couple of race C today with the 4C. This car is definitely the best here. I had a 28.6 in my hands for Q but I crashed. So I decided to stick with a 29.2.
My strategy is to race cool in the 1st stint, saving fuel with extreme short shifting (between 1/2 and 3/4 of the rev limiter). The best I have done was to go to pits end of lap 6 with 49% remaining. I don't change my tires, I just add 1 or 1.5 segment bar of fuel that should provide a good place at the end. Nuschel01 was very surprised to see me so far ahead after my pit ahah.
 
I was breezing past 4Cs in the Megane on the straights at Brands in Race B last week, and they can't overtake if you get the corners right. Tyre wear will further increase the 4C's advantage in the corners though. Should be fun today.
 
Finally some good races today... did 3 races on Interlagos and scored 2 easy wins, however, the third game was a bit dirty since I was placed 4th and finished 6th due to some guys being overly aggressive, but anyhow - they weren't divebombing at least...still think the penalty system has to be revamped because it is ridiculous to get 1 to 5 seconds of penalty for the slightest taps - at least I managed to get back to SR S and started climbing towards DR S again, was almost 42K, then dropped to 32K and now slowly but steadily I'm almost 37K :)
 
The NSX is really competitive against the 4Cs but I just can‘t get any race together with one error costing me anything. Already lost 1500DR :ouch:
 
Nuschel01
The NSX is really competitive against the 4Cs but I just can‘t get any race together with one error costing me anything. Already lost 1500DR :ouch:
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When I started playing GTS the 4C was the hardest car to drive for me (no assists except for ABS), I ditched it and didn't use it for 3-4 months, the other day I decided to give it a try and I was significantly better and yet far from being comfortable using it - it is just a high-risk high- reward car, especially on some tracks, the mid engine is what makes it good and bad at the same time because if you lose the control - it's over :)
 
ststav01
When I started playing GTS the 4C was the hardest car to drive for me (no assists except for ABS), I ditched it and didn't use it for 3-4 months, the other day I decided to give it a try and I was significantly better and yet far from being comfortable using it - it is just a high-risk high- reward car, especially on some tracks, the mid engine is what makes it good and bad at the same time because if you lose the control - it's over :)
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After practicing loads when I got a wheel with no assists in GR3 any GR4 now feels like it’s on rails in comparison, was the same with the 4c no problem now though.
 
Venster
After practicing loads when I got a wheel with no assists in GR3 any GR4 now feels like it’s on rails in comparison, was the same with the 4c no problem now though.
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With me it's the opposite - I play mostly GR4 (even though I have most wins in GR3) so you can imagine how frustrating it is when going "pedal to the metal" from GR4 to GR3 :) but I agree with you totally playing a lot with the faster cars (GR1/2/3) and going lower (GR4) will make the car feel like it's on rails :)
 
Started 4th in race B, first lap 123 collide, guy from 3rd ends up 1st with me waiting for his mistake. Well not long after that he did make mistake.. to brake check me on last chicane.. Up until then I had clean race, got 4s instantly.
Managed to scrape them off till the end and win tho :cheers:

Still, got out of sr S zone again :banghead:🤬
 
Had some fun racing on Brands today, seems that the 4C is the popular car for qualifying but not as a popular in the race. Probably because of the risk factor associated with it.
 
Lellep
Had some fun racing on Brands today, seems that the 4C is the popular car for qualifying but not as a popular in the race. Probably because of the risk factor associated with it.
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It's just faster than the other cars, so you're probably better off qualifying in it but in the race it can be a little tricky to run consistently so using something else there is probably a good idea for most, unless you are confident in the 4C and/or proper fast.

Or you can turn on CSA, I actually didn't use CSA here myself but looking at other fast-ish laps maybe I should have just turned it on but I thought it'd mess with the handling too much with this car.
 
ASH32
It's just faster than the other cars, so you're probably better off qualifying in it but in the race it can be a little tricky to run consistently so using something else there is probably a good idea for most, unless you are confident in the 4C and/or proper fast.

Or you can turn on CSA, I actually didn't use CSA here myself but looking at other fast-ish laps maybe I should have just turned it on but I thought it'd mess with the handling too much with this car.
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I wouldn't even dare to take 4C out without CSA :D

To me it's like betting on premade games and you're the only one that doesn't know the score lolol
 
Baliwa
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real reason why I stop racing today, this one is too stupid even for shake the penalty time he can do in straight area. Not saying I totally right tho since I little bit late turn and give little space to him for turn. Well I wouldn't to turn right at that moment cause I already experienced at same area when I evade that I'll spin out and get penalty for out the track.
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damn. yeah, signed up to say this was me. Sorry about that - but lol yes, I slowed for a penalty! I think I quit the race not long after this.

Result being a huge loss of DR/SR and a run of boring races at the front in the lower SR events.

The penalty system is it stands is just too ridiculous sometimes. Nudged = penalty, try to serve a penalty = penalty. Why do they think serving penalties on track is the right thing to do?

The real penalty here is having to race against fields that are 2s+ a lap slower until your SR gets back up to where it was before. Complete snoozefest. It guess it also penalises those who are genuinely 2s+ off the pace because they'll rarely get wins with this penalty system.
 
sundaydriving
damn. yeah, signed up to say this was me. Sorry about that - but lol yes, I slowed for a penalty! I think I quit the race not long after this.

Result being a huge loss of DR/SR and a run of boring races at the front in the lower SR events.

The penalty system is it stands is just too ridiculous sometimes. Nudged = penalty, try to serve a penalty = penalty. Why do they think serving penalties on track is the right thing to do?

The real penalty here is having to race against fields that are 2s+ a lap slower until your SR gets back up to where it was before. Complete snoozefest. It guess it also penalises those who are genuinely 2s+ off the pace because they'll rarely get wins with this penalty system.
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The problem is that usually those 2+ faster racers are also 2x dirtier, which is evident the higher u go up in dr.
Sometimes it's hard for some to distinguish lapping on empty track from racing with other cars in play.
 
No matter how hard I try, I just can't seem to have a pleasant race on Interlagos. It's a wonderful track, but there are bad apples in every SR division that make sure that their rot is spread. I was SR S at the start, qualified 4th in my Corvette. I was looking forward to fighting for the podium. A minor mistake near the end of lap 2 halted that prospect and relegated me to 8th.

Fine, those opponents who passed me, two Ferraris and an AMG, were still in sight. By the end of lap 3, I had passed the Ferraris somewhat cleanly, and was working my way towards the AMG. Approaching Descida do Lago, we were neck and neck, when out of nowhere, he deliberately attempts to smash me off the track. I managed to correct it quickly and homed back in on him. Coming out of Bico do Pato, I managed to beat him out of the corner, but he decided to shunt me, launching me into the 4th placed Viper, and earning me a 5 second penalty, which I had to burn immediately, conceding my position to the AMG driver again.

However, I only served 3 seconds of the penalty. On the final lap, near the same corner, I watched as he pitted the 3rd placed Supra. I managed to get past, and I thought that he got his comeuppance when he went very wide at Junçao, promoting me to second. This is where I crossed the line. My outstanding penalty time pushed me down to 5th, dropping my SR to A. The Supra, being in 3rd for the majority of the race, finished 10th due to penalties. The AMG driver? He finished second and ended up getting an SR boost after incurring NO penalties.

Apologies for the long post. I wanted to get that off my chest. I'm sure I'll get over it. It's an online game, these things are inevitable, no matter how unfair they are.
 
Alpha Cipher
Is this a hasty generalization or do you have evidence to back it up?
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I uploaded few races I think from ABC/S races where I usually wind up. Far from generalizing, but I also think region had A LOT to do with it. Europe is like.. Yeah there's everything.
Like the B race I just did, guy goes out to take me out on 1st corner, full speed, then he ghost and slams the wall :D:D

Now that was B- C/S race, it looked like a bloody Christmas tree when I looked at the back lol.
When I reset and started at D it was like super clean, but of course experience may vary :D

I genuinely wonder though how would Interlagos 1st corner look like without rolling start.
 
sundaydriving
damn. yeah, signed up to say this was me. Sorry about that - but lol yes, I slowed for a penalty! I think I quit the race not long after this.

Result being a huge loss of DR/SR and a run of boring races at the front in the lower SR events.

The penalty system is it stands is just too ridiculous sometimes. Nudged = penalty, try to serve a penalty = penalty. Why do they think serving penalties on track is the right thing to do?

The real penalty here is having to race against fields that are 2s+ a lap slower until your SR gets back up to where it was before. Complete snoozefest. It guess it also penalises those who are genuinely 2s+ off the pace because they'll rarely get wins with this penalty system.
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Just curious, what were you thinking?! On both those moves! (The massive dive-bomb accompanied by edging Mr. Baliwa off track, and the dangerous brake check). We all make mistakes, I hope you learnt from this because I would not want to be in that race.
 
Suntek
I uploaded few races I think from ABC/S races where I usually wind up. Far from generalizing, but I also think region had A LOT to do with it. Europe is like.. Yeah there's everything.
Like the B race I just did, guy goes out to take me out on 1st corner, full speed, then he ghost and slams the wall :D:D

Now that was B- C/S race, it looked like a bloody Christmas tree when I looked at the back lol.
When I reset and started at D it was like super clean, but of course experience may vary :D

I genuinely wonder though how would Interlagos 1st corner look like without rolling start.
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Ahhh. I now see your point- it's just that I had a different perception of "high ranking drivers"
I don't consider B or A to be high (well, maybe A at ~45k), but the general trend I see is:
C/D are a mixed bag where you see overly cautious but clean drivers, and relatively fast drivers for their rank that makes rookie mistakes
B/A are the dirtiest rankings. They're basically what you describe
S is the cleanest
 
Alpha Cipher
Ahhh. I now see your point- it's just that I had a different perception of "high ranking drivers"
I don't consider B or A to be high (well, maybe A at ~45k), but the general trend I see is:
C/D are a mixed bag where you see overly cautious but clean drivers, and relatively fast drivers for their rank that makes rookie mistakes
B/A are the dirtiest rankings. They're basically what you describe
S is the cleanest
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Id argue that Low S is dirtier than A. I always have great races in A but hardly ever in low S. High S is the best for sure, but something about Low S make everyone think they are entitled whatever part of the track they please
 
Suntek
The problem is that usually those 2+ faster racers are also 2x dirtier, which is evident the higher u go up in dr.
Sometimes it's hard for some to distinguish lapping on empty track from racing with other cars in play.
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They definitely can be dirtier.
Tou2istTrophy
Just curious, what were you thinking?! On both those moves! (The massive dive-bomb accompanied by edging Mr. Baliwa off track, and the dangerous brake check). We all make mistakes, I hope you learnt from this because I would not want to be in that race.
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for your curiousity...

the dive bomb - i dont have the replay - i quit. this race was a mess from turn 1. i must've thought they were going off with the line they were taking though i should've realised the mustang is not great at such a tight line either in my hands at least

penalty/brake check - actually the penalty thing flashed red and by this point figured i'd just stop before the corner rather than in the corner and wait for it to go down. Wasn't looking at the mirrors at all. I thought those serving penalties ghosted now.
 
John Crellin
Id argue that Low S is dirtier than A. I always have great races in A but hardly ever in low S. High S is the best for sure, but something about Low S make everyone think they are entitled whatever part of the track they please
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Seeing as though we're doing anecdotes.

I "just" did a few S SR races, crashed into baliwa, then a bunch of B, A and S SR races in a row. Each with a mix of E to A+ DRs. Ended up with 10 or 11 clean races in a row. But - I didn't notice any difference between the number of players with red dots on them at the end of these races. I doubt many of these penaltys are intentional. The "uncleanliness" seems to be quite consistent across all levels in the daily races if you ask me. Maybe 3 or 4 players without red dots each time and usually only for those at the front end.

Also - The last race of the day I did (SR S) the winner (A+) carried a penalty the whole race until just before the finish line.

Interlagos.
 
I think it’s been mentioned but if you’ve got a penalty are you now constantly ghosted? Although don’t look ghosted.

If this is the case, does this happen at all DR/SR levels?
 
Venster
I think it’s been mentioned but if you’ve got a penalty are you now constantly ghosted? Although don’t look ghosted.

If this is the case, does this happen at all DR/SR levels?
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You're not ghosted until you're serving the penalty, if you have a penalty it is displayed to other drivers by an a flashing red "PENALTY" under your name. This is the same for ALL DR/SR levels.
 
How come I keep getting hit, get 1s, serve it but the guy with 10s never serves it and doesn't have a red dot at the end? I'm seriously wondering why I came back to GTS... Makes no sense. Should I ignore penalties?
 
R10tz0r
You're not ghosted until you're serving the penalty, if you have a penalty it is displayed to other drivers by an a flashing red "PENALTY" under your name. This is the same for ALL DR/SR levels.
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Only reason I asked is just watched a video of Monza, none of the cars looked ghosted but seemed to be driving through each other but not serving a plenty.

Prime example driving up the back straight both cars at full pace, one had the red flashing penalty and they drive through each other but like I say at full pace not serving a penalty?
 
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