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About 5 pages ago Sven asked about a Toyota lap replay, this might help:



Not a perfect lap but it at least gives some clues about where you're allowed to drive without penalties.

As usual that's with a controller and sensitivity turned all the way up.

Sven Jurgens
No, I'm just slow :lol: No clue what I'm doing wrong yet A+ drivers can get the TS050 down to 2:26 for best lap, my best in 2:30 once. I tried to watch a replay yet due to lag it was impossible to make much sense out of it, except that I shouldn't stay inside the lines at all times.
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Sven Jurgens
Second attempt today with the TS050 went better, .... SR wise anyway. I still got rammed a plenty yet the rammers went home with a red B while I gained a measly 3 SR. It's Friday, nearing dirty hour, battle mode on! The experiment with weekly races has failed, at least if it was any attempt at making the races cleaner by giving people more time to learn the track. The time is only used to learn how to exploit the track!

Gaining 12 positions per race is too much fun to care much about the low standard of race craft. Plus it makes encounters with fair respectful drivers more rewarding. I hope to see some of you guys on the track tonight.
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I agree, It definitely is fun! I’ll be out shortly, hope to see you out there as well. :)

I’m still working on this first lap with the Mazda on AT, 1:14 in and I’m liking it so far, though I started that lap about 45 minutes ago, at this rate warming up may take a while. :lol:
 
Porsche on Nurburgring and GR1 at Le Mans in recent weeks. That's more like it PD. Not Tokyo Expressway which is a rammers' paradise or Blue Moon Speedway which is mind numbingly boring. Got one win in Gr1 at Le Mans. I find it's most enjoyable when you're in the middle of the pack.
 
Pigems
I agree, It definitely is fun! I’ll be out shortly, hope to see you out there as well. :)

I’m still working on this first lap with the Mazda on AT, 1:14 in and I’m liking it so far, though I started that lap about 45 minutes ago, at this rate warming up may take a while. :lol:
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Damn that TS050, it seems to be a ram magnet in the backfield. It's slow on the straight, yet great to out brake most cars. However even though I'm ahead before turn in, the outside car rams me at the apex anyway. I blame fuel saving for people not using radar, playing with the fuel map instead. -1 SR last race from all the incurred hits, 92 currently.

I think I know where I lose time in the TS050. I have my DS4 at default sensitivity, it takes too long for the wheels to turn in the chicanes on the straight, at least if I take them correctly. I keep getting bumped by people ignoring the middle part :/
 
I just did 10 laps in the LM55 and the best I did was a high 28. To be fair, I probably only did 4 or 5 where I stayed on track for the whole lap. Also tried the R18. 3 laps to get a 29. I have some work to do if I'm gonna have a chance to get close to you guys. Tough crowd!:crazy:
 
NevilleNobody
What a weird night, got my qualy time in Race A down to a 56.3 for 4 races for four wins, I quite enjoy the Tuscan TBH. The first three wins I started second and the pole sitter made huge errors and spun off under pressure. DR up over 28K for the first time. Funny what happens when your SR drops to C.

Speaking of which, in the first three races i did not have any contact at all and incurred just one 0.75 second penalty for tripping ther track limits somewhere (where???) yet my SR barely moved from 33 to 40. I don't get it. In the 4th race i JUST touched a guy and he spun off and i was sent back down to 20 something.

@Dairyworker , agreed, less than 10 per race for me which i hope is not a trend.
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This all confirms to my theory ... basically, when you go down to SR C, they are slower drivers, so you get wins and lots of DR. I also found that my SR hardly went up at all for several races, despite being out front and driving clean. Later it started to go up.

But SR 20 is dangerous I think ... best to focus on SR if below 60 IMO.
 
I had forgot I dropped to SR A in the last race last night. First race starting 17/18 with no familiar names in the field. I started a little slow and spinny coming out of corners but found a groove on lap 2 and made my way up to 4th by the end, the winner was 35 seconds off into the distance by then though. But I’m back to SR S now and it was a good start to the night. :)

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Pigems
I had forgot I dropped to SR A in the last race last night. First race starting 17/18 with no familiar names in the field. I started a little slow and spinny coming out of corners but found a groove on lap 2 and made my way up to 4th by the end, the winner was 35 seconds off into the distance by then though. But I’m back to SR S now and it was a good start to the night. :)

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We're going opposite directions. I just did an S race with a bunch of mouth-breathers ( not you, NosOsh), and went from 95 to 60. No part of my car was left untouched. If damage was allowed, this Mazda would have been totaled. My favorite part was when those dead-behind-the eyes morons came from behind to take me three-wide, going into the Ford chicanes. It didn't work out for them.

I'll give it another go at B level, but this usually doesn't turn out well.

Don't be in the next race with me. :mad:
 
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sturk0167
We're going opposite directions. I just did an S race with a bunch of mouth-breathers ( not you, NosOsh), and went from 95 to 60. No part of my car was left untouched. If damage was allowed, this Mazda would have been totaled. My favorite part was when those dead-behind-the eyes morons came from behind to take me three-wide, going into the Ford chicanes. It didn't work out for them.

I'll give it another go at B level, but this usually doesn't turn out well.

Don't be in the next race with me. :mad:
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Good luck in SR.B.
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@NosOsH Congrats on the Win!! Well done Sir. :)

@Sven Jurgens That was super fun man! You must have turned the juice up on that straight away did ya? I got by out of the sharp corner and then you just came zooming back by me lol.

I made my way to 5th by the end with 3rd and 4th in sight but finished 6th after scrubbing the penalties, I just can’t seem to keep it between the lines tonight. Maybe I need to ease up a bit, I have been pretty aggressive so far.

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Edit: My Son just got home, he got his full driver license today and was out driving Solo for the first time ever tonight. So I’m a pretty proud Papa right now to say the least :D, plus, now I can send him to the store on his own!! :lol:

That means it’s back to racing with a Q time now, I was gonna have to do it eventually, but starting from the back is a lot of fun. :)
 
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Sven Jurgens
@Pigems I run at fm2 on the straight, the R92CP is still fast on a lean mix. I wish I could turn it up to full, next time again.
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Ah ok, I didn’t know it was that fast on the lower power levels. That keeps happening to me, I blow by people in and coming out of corners only to have the come back by on the straights lol. What kind of fuel saving do you have to do to use the 908 without stopping?
 
Sven Jurgens
@Pigems I run at fm2 on the straight, the R92CP is still fast on a lean mix. I wish I could turn it up to full, next time again.
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The R92 was the only one of the Group C cars I was able to do a no stop on ... just. The others had me on 0.2 to 0.3 laps left at the end of lap 4. The R92 had me on 1.1laps left. I don't mess with the fuel maps... it's too far away from the radar to be flicking back and forth during a race.
 
Pigems
Ah ok, I didn’t know it was that fast one lower power levels. That keeps happening to me, I blow by people in and coming out of corners only to have the come back by on the straights lol. What kind of fuel saving do you have to do to use the 908 without stopping?
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908 is actually slightly better with fuel than the R92CP, 2 laps at FM3 and 3 at FM2. Or FM2 on the straight plus last lap, FM3 in the other parts first 4 laps. I'm slightly slower with it and it feels too much on rails. Although maybe I should try it again now I'm dialed in more.
 
What the best thing for me to do if i want to try and run some C races with yall tonight. Though i wont be home or online for another 2 hours almost. Best car for a no stop with minimal messing about with stuff. I run AT still (for now)
 
Dairyworker
What the best thing for me to do if i want to try and run some C races with yall tonight. Though i wont be home or online for another 2 hours almost. Best car for a no stop with minimal messing about with stuff. I run AT still (for now)
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TS050 goes all the way on FM1 no stop in AT.

The rest all need fuel saving

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Mazda LM55 3.9 laps

4.4 laps needs FM2 x 3 laps, FM3 x 2 laps.
Audi R18 '16 needs FM3 all the way.
Mazda needs FM3 / FM4 50/50
 
Peugeot 908 HDi - Mix 6 on Porsche curves will do.
Depending on your shifting you may sometimes run 6 on the Dunlop, or when you are at high speed on the straight.
 
Can't raise my SR to save my life. Race C, trying to be clean, but I'm in the B group, so I'm on the pole. Hit twice in the first 20 seconds. 2 SR downs. 🤬 that. Quit the race before completing half a lap. Had time to kill, figured I'd cruise around at race A and make up some SR. Nope got hit. White B at the end. 🤬
 
It wasn’t the fastest of rooms but this is my best finish so far, and a Blue A at the end with only one .4s penalty this time too. Improvement. :)
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Oddly enough I finished where I would have qualified in that room lol.



Edit: Make that twice! I was only 6s off the leader this time, an A+ driver. I was penalty free too until the last lap when I got a 3.6 for ever so slightly cutting the corner on Tetre Rouge. Finished with a red A though and I’m not sure why? Oh well. :)

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6BK
I find the very same. Have tried multiple cars and am really disappointed to find my 3 fastest times are in those 3 FF cars. Of them all I prefer Scirocco because there’s at least some sense of handling but unfortunately I’m consistently quicker in Megane. Not that FF users are just kids with a love of barging. I’ve raced as clean as possible holding nice tight lines and braking sharp only to be punted by Huracans on every turn. The really daft thing is that the FF holds a better line on the fast sweeping right (T3) than the 4WD Lambo that slides off it.
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My late response, but so true. I don't get how the Huracan slides so much. I've only driven once or twice and didn't like it. The GT-R. Stable. Evo. Stable. WRX. Stable. Atenza can swing the tail, but still easy to control.
I get MR cars, in this game, are a bit skittish. No doubt it's behavior also depends on the driver. However, figured it would be rock solid with the awd.

Tonight's race at Willow Springs will be interesting. The 4C and 86 are secured in top 10 AUs/NZ in the 15 second range. I ran a 16.787 in the Slophy. There'd be more in it, from a faster player than me. Might be a sleeper, come 6pm.
 
BallPtPenTheif
Are you referring to the straight before or after the turn?

On the straight after the turn, you would be on the inside and they would have to cut at a hard angle to ram you which would put themselves in an easy position to get PIT'd.
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You’re right, it was my fault he punted me off the track. this is why I think Im done with this game, the audience is too immature
 
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Sven Jurgens
Damn that TS050, it seems to be a ram magnet in the backfield. It's slow on the straight, yet great to out brake most cars. However even though I'm ahead before turn in, the outside car rams me at the apex anyway. I blame fuel saving for people not using radar, playing with the fuel map instead. -1 SR last race from all the incurred hits, 92 currently.

I think I know where I lose time in the TS050. I have my DS4 at default sensitivity, it takes too long for the wheels to turn in the chicanes on the straight, at least if I take them correctly. I keep getting bumped by people ignoring the middle part :/
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Hmm my steering wheel must be slower at turning the front wheels than a DS4. Maybe I need to make it turn quicker, its at around 300 degrees at the moment. From my PS3/ GT4 days, I used to take pride in lapping quickly with hardly any steering wheel movement. Things have changed with GT Sport.

About the radar - where is it best to learn how to use it?

Also, should I use TC in the race? I went in to have a race, on Saturday evening in Melbourne Australia, and I found in the practice run the car was quite a bit slipperier. This happened last week at Nurb F1 - the car slid more, but actually qualified faster. But against the Japanese on a Saturday night, it is brutal and for me, my game needs to be really "on it" - no mistakes. When I come out of the first chicane on the long Mulsanne Straight, in the Peugeot 908, I was fishtailing in the only lap I started pre race as I came out of that chicane, and that was different from the non race practice. I corrected OK but lost a bit of time on what looked like a good lap. I don't really want to practice with TC on because it hurts my reactions and feel. But perhaps if I turn it on in the race, the car will feel too "wooden" and I will muck up the corners. If I fiddle with the TC, then I might have fuel saving settings; TC might save the tyres too, but I could just change to third very early. But anyway, fiddling with TC on and off - maybe radar - fuel settings - also traffic issues ... the likely result would be :dunce: .

Incidentally, when I took the intermediate tyres off the Audi R18, the car was a lot faster. The racing lines though seems much the same. Got down to 3:27s straight away, but than made mistakes as I overdrove. Had a second session and the same. Tried the R Nissan and it felt like it used to in GT4. Quite good, but not as fast as the Audi R18. Tried the white Mazda LM55 - nice smooth acceleration and no need for TC, it grips all the time. But I didn't like its handling for some reason. And oh - the R18 is as fast if one shifts quite early. Would that save fuel? Surely it would. Anyway I bought the Peugeot 908 and wow - it handles a treat. Immediately mid 25's. It feels properly predictable.

Might race tomorrow as I reckon the Japanese on a Saturday night will not be fun. :nervous:
 
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Melbourne Park
Hmm my steering wheel must be slower at turning the front wheels than a DS4. Maybe I need to make it turn quicker, its at around 300 degrees at the moment. From my PS3/ GT4 days, I used to take pride in lapping quickly with hardly any steering wheel movement. Things have changed with GT Sport.

About the radar - where is it best to learn how to use it?

Also, should I use TC in the race? I went in to have a race, on Saturday evening in Melbourne Australia, and I found in the practice run the car was quite a bit slipperier. This happened last week at Nurb F1 - the car slid more, but actually qualified faster. But against the Japanese on a Saturday night, it is brutal and for me, my game needs to be really "on it" - no mistakes. When I come out of the first chicane on the long Mulsanne Straight, in the Peugeot 908, I was fishtailing in the only lap I started pre race as I came out of that chicane, and that was different from the non race practice. I corrected OK but lost a bit of time on what looked like a good lap. I don't really want to practice with TC on because it hurts my reactions and feel. But perhaps if I turn it on in the race, the car will feel too "wooden" and I will muck up the corners. If I fiddle with the TC, then I might have fuel saving settings; TC might save the tyres too, but I could just change to third very early. But anyway, fiddling with TC on and off - maybe radar - fuel settings - also traffic issues ... the likely result would be :dunce: .

Incidentally, when I took the intermediate tyres off the Audi R18, the car was a lot faster. The racing lines though seems much the same. Got down to 3:27s straight away, but than made mistakes as I overdrove. Had a second session and the same. Tried the R Nissan and it felt like it used to in GT4. Quite good, but not as fast as the Audi R18. Tried the white Mazda LM55 - nice smooth acceleration and no need for TC, it grips all the time. But I didn't like its handling for some reason. And oh - the R18 is as fast if one shifts quite early. Would that save fuel? Surely it would. Anyway I bought the Peugeot 908 and wow - it handles a treat. Immediately mid 25's. It feels properly predictable.

Might race tomorrow as I reckon the Japanese on a Saturday night will not be fun. :nervous:
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Radar is just a zoomed in version of the map with the cars represented as triangles. You have to use it a while to get used to how 'big' the cars actually are in the form of those triangles. It's nothing but a top down view to get a feel of your position vs the other cars nearby, very useful when going side by side through corners to avoid contact.

Cars always behave differently between qualifying and race. During qualifying there is no fuel weight, no tire wear, no cold tires at the start so you are always driving under optimum conditions.

Shifting early or short shifting saves fuel and in a lot of cars you aren't losing much acceleration and still getting full top speed unlike when using fuel map to save fuel.

Btw intermediate tires are for wet tracks, which aren't in the game (yet). No clue why the game lets you select them yet they are always slower.
 
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