"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Mirror_man]

Again I have become haunted by the understeer glitch. Was doing race C with the Lexus when on one of the left hairpins my car just wouldn’t turn. I lost two positions because my car just fell off line, even after I had reduced the speed excessively it just plowed to the outside grass. Between this glitch, the penalty system, the terrible races and the persistent BSOD I think I’ve had enough of PD’s incompetence.

Understeer glitch????? You play with controller or steering wheel?? Any Driving Assist on??

 

[bmxmitch]

Again I have become haunted by the understeer glitch. Was doing race C with the Lexus when on one of the left hairpins my car just wouldn’t turn. I lost two positions because my car just fell off line, even after I had reduced the speed excessively it just plowed to the outside grass. Between this glitch, the penalty system, the terrible races and the persistent BSOD I think I’ve had enough of PD’s incompetence.

Same here!
I thought my controller was broken, but with a brand new one I had the same issues yesterday. The car just wont turn!?
Very annoying....
I lost several races thanks to this "glitch" or whatever it is.

 

[Bojador]

I’ve also experienced something like this but I thought it was related with going from 1 class to another. It would suck if it’s actually a glitch.

 

[Balwerk]

I dunno if I get the glitch too but I think I get that, when I use GTR the car behave not like usual but when use RCF suddenly pretty driveable
Hell how can in room filled with A+ A and B I can jumping about 9 position.​

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[daan]

I CANT GET OUT OF SR B. I KEEP GETTING PENALTIES FOR INCIDENTS THAT AREN'T MY FAULT


CLIP:

So, in the first clip, a white car turns left into me. He bounces off me, hits another car and hits me again. I'm hit with a three second penalty even though I never changed my vector.

In clip two we see a Corvette and Mustang racing. The Corvette pushes the Mustang off track and receives a penalty. One would assume the Corvette got 10s for that penalty, yes? We'll find out at the end of the race.

In the third clip, I attempt to pass the Corvette. He pushes me off track, and the game does not say whether he is penalized at the bottom of the screen.

In the fourth clip, he slams his brakes right before the finish, and bleeds off likely a second or two. In my mind he should still have like 8 seconds left. Nope. 2. He doesn't lose a grid spot, but I do. This is ridiculous. I got penalties like this last night and now tonight. I can't get out of Sr B.

My Sr fell from this race by 5 points. This is ludicrous. I am beyond livid!

If you are trying to raise your SR, why put yourself in positions where you are going to lose some?

In clips 1 and 3, you put yourself in a position that relies on the other driver giving you room. Surely we both know that's not going to happen.

EDIT:
IMO, in clip 1 you should either have been more right, hemming the white car in behind the blue one. Any contact would then have been a slight rubbing with no one coming off worse. Or you should have been further left to give him room to come out, but then you'd have been at too narrow an angle for corner entry.

In the 3rd one, there is only room for 1 car through that turn, and he was still ahead. If you're really trying to build up your SR, you should have got out of it.

 

[Bojador]

I dunno if I get the glitch too but I think I get that, when I use GTR the car behave not like usual but when use RCF suddenly pretty driveable
Hell how can in room filled with A+ A and B I can jumping about 9 position.​

Cool livery!

 

[Balwerk]

Cool livery!

thanks man

 

[Invisigoth]

Same here!
I thought my controller was broken, but with a brand new one I had the same issues yesterday. The car just wont turn!?
Very annoying....
I lost several races thanks to this "glitch" or whatever it is.

05XR8 seemed to be having this problem earlier. He did find a fix I believe.

 

[Hasnain282]

05XR8 seemed to be having this problem earlier. He did find a fix I believe.

Wasn't it just a controller reset, using the hole at the back

 

[TheGeologist]

In clips 1 and 3, you put yourself in a position that relies on the other driver giving you room. Surely we both know that's not going to happen.

Anytime I post a clip, you always find a way to say it's my fault. :/

Clip 3 might not have been the best place to pass looking back on it, but I don't think its unreasonable.

As for clip one, come on Daan that's a straightaway. Even at Sr B, I would expect a driver not to door me down a straight. If a driver cannot expect to be given room on a straightaway, then we might as all move to GTA racing because the spirit of actual racing is lost.

 

[mthomas_95]

Even at Sr B, I would expect a driver not to door me down a straight.

Never expect anything 'clean' below SR S , people are only below S because they're involved in collisions regularly. He was always going to pull out and overtake the car that ghosted into Turn 1, especially as it braked early to scrub the penalty. The move was a panic reaction to the early brake and was just incase the car ahead didn't ghost, being a bit more to the inside would've helped. Not the optimum line but it's the safest in that situation.

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

Anytime I post a clip, you always find a way to say it's my fault. :/

Clip 3 might not have been the best place to pass looking back on it, but I don't think its unreasonable.

As for clip one, come on Daan that's a straightaway. Even at Sr B, I would expect a driver not to door me down a straight. If a driver cannot expect to be given room on a straightaway, then we might as all move to GTA racing because the spirit of actual racing is lost.

I think he’s just trying to be diplomatic, but you have to appreciate if you’re trying to gain SR you can’t put yourself in those positions, if you’re just trying to maintain your SR sure go for it. But looking to get back to S from B, yeah you really need to avoid everyone on the track.

 

[Bojador]

Wasn't it just a controller reset, using the hole at the back

@05XR8 can you please share your findings on this matter?

 

[Invisigoth]

Watch out for the golden BB! For my first race on my way back down to my home in DR/D I figured I'd go out in a blaze of Gr3 gory erm I mean glory. None of this spending hours to try and gain fractions of a second for the best qualifying, I was running mode 1 (try not to hit the walls ). That got me a P10/16 which changed to P9/15 in a mixed grid of all the flavours except the aliens and DR/E. Mix of SR as well (I was down to SR 85 after Monza).

I stuck to a plan... mode 1. I assumed I was going to get my rear end handed to me on a plate, so I was a little surprised to finish P7. Cars were ping ponging from one side of the track to the other and spinning out and all kinds of other random carnage. I just focused on not hitting the wall on T1 .

DR up by 400+ and SR up by 7. I'm calling it fluke, since the last two times I've hit DR/C its been followed by a downward slide in both DR and SR. Guess I'll see what happens after midnight with Race C. See if I remember to short shift the second stint this time .

 

[daan]

Anytime I post a clip, you always find a way to say it's my fault. :/

Clip 3 might not have been the best place to pass looking back on it, but I don't think its unreasonable.

As for clip one, come on Daan that's a straightaway. Even at Sr B, I would expect a driver not to door me down a straight. If a driver cannot expect to be given room on a straightaway, then we might as all move to GTA racing because the spirit of actual racing is lost.

I'm not condoning him pushing you out of the way causing you both to crash, but you should either have given him more room, or given him less room. By giving him some, but not enough, room he maybe thought there was enough room for him, or he didn't know you were there. By giving him no room by moving closer to him as you pass, you're giving him more warning you're there, and not allowing him to build momentum if he still decided to try to push you out of the way, and you're also giving yourself a better entry to the corner.

In clip 3, you stuck your nose a gap that was always going to close and result in contact.

All I'm saying is that you are putting yourself in a position that allows random idiots to run into you. If you are attempting to gain SR, you cannot do that.

 

[Vegard]

Understeer glitch????? You play with controller or steering wheel?? Any Driving Assist on??

I drive with controller. ABS only.

I’ve experienced it in many daily races, all of them with tyre wear on. And it’s been high powered RWD cars every time. It usually occurs in the middle of a stint, when the rears have started to deteriorate a bit. When turning into a sharp corner the car simply won’t turn. Like you’ve run over an oil patch or your steering angle have suddenly been reduced by 50%. It’s not a tyre wear issue and it’s been happening only recently- last Gr.2 Suzuka Lexus at the hairpin, Gr.3 Monza Mustang at the first chicane, today at Kyoto Lexus the last left hairpin. The last one in particular is very obvious. My apex speed had to be reduced to something like what I had in the GT3 RS yesterday. And that was on SH tyres!

 

[Invisigoth]

It has begun! (cue the music from the Mortal Combat movie). So Race C. Clearly I have no idea how to drive Gr2 round that track! I thought i was doing ok. Saw I was 10s slower than the top 10 in my region, but figured that since I wasn't racing aliens, I should be OK. Matching flashes up and the grid is mostly DR/C with a couple of Ds. Hello P16 .

The race starts and there's the usual dash for crash in T1. I get knocked around but no penalties. Just before I was due to pit I was side by side through a corner on the inside, but just couldn't hold position. Edged the other car out and its an orange SR and a 3s penalty. I came out of the pits P7 did a lap, then had to slow down so as not to hit cars coming out of the pits. Others capitalised on that and pushed past all 3 of us. With 2 laps to go another car came barrelling through from out wide and crashed through me on the inside. I didn't see him on the radar, he just suddenly appeared from the side ! Another orange SR and 3s penalty, and I'd just gotten rid of the first one! Because of the penalty I lost 3 more places and finished P15.

DR down about 600, despite the second orange SR, SR up by 1. Another day in DR/C .

 

[Mirror_man]

I drive with controller. ABS only.

I’ve experienced it in many daily races, all of them with tyre wear on. And it’s been high powered RWD cars every time. It usually occurs in the middle of a stint, when the rears have started to deteriorate a bit. When turning into a sharp corner the car simply won’t turn. Like you’ve run over an oil patch or your steering angle have suddenly been reduced by 50%. It’s not a tyre wear issue and it’s been happening only recently- last Gr.2 Suzuka Lexus at the hairpin, Gr.3 Monza Mustang at the first chicane, today at Kyoto Lexus the second to last left hairpin. The last one in particular is very obvious. My apex speed had to be reduced to something like what I had in the GT3 RS yesterday. And that was on SH tyres!

It may be a controler issue... (or not..)

 

[Suntek]

It may be a controler issue... (or not..)

Nah, I get that with g29. I think it's just random, most easy to notice is gr1 Porsche, it will lock 80% of time on certain tracks at specific turns.
Usually it's Nurb GP last S , going out of it is almost guaranteed lock for me. Gotta go out super slow, compared to other cars.

 

[Andrew Wood]

What a difference a day makes.
Yesterday was catastrophic on Monza and Dragon Gardens. SR all the way back to E.....
Was actually gonna put a different disk in and play something else today.....
First a win on BB. Then 4th in the Clio race (decided to quit whilst I was ahead and not try again for better). Then 2nd in the Gr2 from starting in 12th....blimey.
Three consecutive clean race medals and SR all the way back to A.....double blimey.

 

[CurbHog]

I'm not condoning him pushing you out of the way causing you both to crash, but you should either have given him more room, or given him less room. By giving him some, but not enough, room he maybe thought there was enough room for him, or he didn't know you were there. By giving him no room by moving closer to him as you pass, you're giving him more warning you're there, and not allowing him to build momentum if he still decided to try to push you out of the way, and you're also giving yourself a better entry to the corner.

In clip 3, you stuck your nose a gap that was always going to close and result in contact.

All I'm saying is that you are putting yourself in a position that allows random idiots to run into you. If you are attempting to gain SR, you cannot do that.

I completely agree. I had a terrible dip in DR and was hesitating engaging in the Race B yesterday at Gardens. But by simply tap an extra time on the brake I could avoid costly DR issues where "I was in the right" but you could very well get a penalty. Net result was positive gains in DR.
So as you try to grow your DR, you need to drive more passive. Most of the time the guys that push hard and dive will go off in front of you and you will pass while they are spinning on the side of the road.

 

[GTP_randy]

So as you try to grow your DR, you need to drive more passive. Most of the time the guys that push hard and dive will go off in front of you and you will pass while they are spinning on the side of the road.

There's one word that for what you just described
Patience

 

[Suntek]

Started 14th in race C (B/A), had limited time for qualifying. Ended up 40s behind P1 by lap 2 because slow people do everything to stay ahead as usual and I played it safe. Somehow got from 014 to P7 but gave way for corner pushers, saves me some sr.
Almost got away with clean bonus until a Spaniard that I let pass earlier spins out and comes back on track right into my door.. Orange sr and 4s reward, did absolutely nothing.

I did however discover that rubbing off penalty at finish straight doesn't really work, literally had to full stop and wait 2-3s before it started ticking down..
Thus, everyone and a turtle passed by. P18.

-1k dr, but back to sr S

 

[ivann]

Top drivers in gr2 tonight, made only one mistake but good placement overall.

 

[Famine]

I'm not condoning him pushing you out of the way causing you both to crash, but you should either have given him more room, or given him less room. By giving him some, but not enough, room he maybe thought there was enough room for him, or he didn't know you were there. By giving him no room by moving closer to him as you pass, you're giving him more warning you're there, and not allowing him to build momentum if he still decided to try to push you out of the way, and you're also giving yourself a better entry to the corner.

In clip 3, you stuck your nose a gap that was always going to close and result in contact.

All I'm saying is that you are putting yourself in a position that allows random idiots to run into you. If you are attempting to gain SR, you cannot do that.

The etiquette videos - which we all watched and didn't play in the background while we went to make a coffee - even explains this. In among all the advice about not making yourself look bad, it notes that you should watch out for other players who aren't bothered about making themselves look bad.

If you care about your SR, give room, often, and don't stick your nose - or arse - into gaps that may result in contact if the other player is an asshat. It may mean sacrificing your DR to do it, but usually it means the asshat has his crash(es) somewhere else with someone else and both of your ratings improve. And after all, they can't become an A+ driver unless they've got their own SR high enough because it's capped, so don't let it bother you that they're gaining DR at your expense.

 

[ColinNZ]

Made it to 20 wins with a victory at Blue Moon Infield B. I had an interesting mix of races at this track, which range from some good clean races, to the inevitable midfield bumper car race of doom...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I did one GR.2 race so far, second disconnected. How often does everyone else get disconnected? It's at least once a day now. It was better for a while yet the past 4 days it has been every day.

I started 12th. First lap was very aggressive and to 'not look bad' I dropped to last place by the end of the first lap due to getting out of the way of all the penalty pushers. The rest of the race I worked myself back up which took a while as a 1 bar connection was blocking the way taking people out until he finally took himself out. I still ended up with a penalty from someone not braking in time and bumping my rear bumper at the apex while I was close behind another car. I could not jump out of the way and still got the 1 sec courtesy penalty. I finished 10th, no point pushing the last lap with 1 sec penalty.

The whole room was blue S ratings except for one car. The daily C is a farce, had it been a daily B at least half the room would be red ratings after that first lap.

Waiting for the next race...

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

I did one GR.2 race so far, second disconnected. How often does everyone else get disconnected? It's at least once a day now. It was better for a while yet the past 4 days it has been every day.

Used to be once a week, maybe less when I first got the game. It’s once a day now, thankfully only once happened while in first place on the last lap. 90% of disconnects are during matchmaking, around half of those lose me SR/DR. Maybe because my gaming stunts are longer than before.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Used to be once a week, maybe less when I first got the game. It’s once a day now, thankfully only once happened while in first place on the last lap. 90% of disconnects are during matchmaking, around half of those lose me SR/DR. Maybe because my gaming stunts are longer than before.

I got disconnected again at the very end of the next race while going to the result screen, luckily after the online save so SR and DR were save. However I wanted to report this ass:

As I come around the corner he's ghosted, the Canadian in the dark colored car. It looks like he got pushed out by the American in the blue car. I pass both, then the Canadian full on punts the American, who crashes into the Brazilian, who crashes into me. He takes out the American and the Brazilian, I barely manage to hold on and receive 2 sec penalty for what??? The Canadian ends up behind me, also finishes behind me in 8th. I can understand he's upset about getting pushed out and getting a penalty, yet that's no excuse to go play pinball.

Anyway not a bad race moving up 8 positions. The next race however was a dream come true.

Look at that lovely grid, everyone playing by the same rules!

Clean it was not, yet I avoided all of it and had one of the best races in a long time, jostling for positions with clean drivers, while the not so clean ones drove themself off before doing harm.

Yeah, go ahead and disappointingly stare at your feet stupid driver, that race was awesome!

Too bad I don't have time to race more, server will be down when I can get back on. Le mans tomorrow!

 

[JDmsz]

I was a DR A+, now I'm a B because I raged quit 3 times in one day from getting dived bombed in the first or second corner. How long does it usually take to get from B to A?